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#102 Jan 16, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Glad to see you finally admitted to being wrong.
I am not wrong. Calling a semi-auto an assault weapon is wrong and just a political term based on the way it looks and not how it functions. A true assault weapon is capable of full auto fire and used by a military. The two guns may look the same but they are not the same

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#103 Jan 16, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
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I do believe it was a coincidence and someone who wanted to get their point across figured it out...coincidences happen all the time in life Denny, you know that.
You make no sense why would a gunman look for a gunfree zone when they all want to die, kill themselves, have the cops do it, whatever, that doesn't jive with me at all..
If they kill one person and are then shot no one will remember their name. If they kill 50 people everyone will remember them. They just want notoriety in their death

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#104 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>That is what I was thinking so I don't see how any law would control it
If the problem was the weapon itself then why is it only young white males in their twenties that are doing these shootings?
Doesn't it seem the problems are being caused by some factor other than the available weapons?
They all had mental health issues. Some might have been on psychtropic drugs for treatment or simply not benn taking the properly perscribed ones. Who really knows. Loughner was a schitzoid who hated public figures of authority,thus the Giffords shooting. Holmes,who was darn near MENSA material was stressed over failing in school and went bonkers. Lanza went hewhack apparently when he discovered his Mom was looking into having him committed. Only they know for sure and I'm not sure they could even tell you. The one overiding fact is this,with the exception of the Giffords shooting the rest chose gun free areas.

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#105 Jan 16, 2013
... try Fort Hood ... do you do any research or just shoot your mouth off ...

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#106 Jan 16, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>That shooting was what changed the law. At that time everywhere was gun free because we had no carry law. The woman who had a gun in her car was elected to office and helped write the must issue law on CCL Most states now have CCL the only place you know people will be shooting back at you is a school. They plan to die but they want to kill as many people as possible so they will be remembered. I can't think of ANY mass shooting that wasn't a gun free zone. Can you?
You have got to be kidding right?

Texas mass shootings since those liberal gun carrying laws were passed, how many and where did they take place?

You consider Fort Hood Texas a gun free zone? Hardly

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#107 Jan 16, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
There's no need to raise taxes or even spend tax dollars on security for schools. Simply add on $5 to every box of ammo,$50 to each pistol and $100 to each rifle/shotgun to pay the training and salaries of the police assigned to each school.
Judging from their posts, Crain and Oki Doakie alone could each fund a few districts.
It's a win/win for all! The gun-nutters get their guns AND ammo and our kids are safe!
Hiya sh1theel. I'd ask how they were hanging but.... Well you know,gotta have 'em first. FYI: Just renewed my NRA membership. A little early but I figured Wayne could use the dues. Cut 'em a nice donation too.$100.00 so they can buy a Democrat legislator of their choice. As you know,them democrats don't come cheap.

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#108 Jan 16, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not against armed guards per say who have trainning like a retired cop or a military person even though yes I believe they would get shot first as much as I'm against armed teacher who don't have a freaking clue what to do in a bad situation.
That is insane to me!!
But who will pay for the Guards? Do you realize how schools there are in the US.. We're talking millions of dollars. I wonder would the NRA and all those against the new laws who is pushing for this pay for this...don't even answer that question, I know the answer....hell no it would hurt their botom line..
You don't just arm teachers. You remove the gun free zones and no one knows who is armed because guns are concealed. Lots of those teachers has past military experience and have been trained with guns for years. I shoot much better than most cops who come out to the same range I shoot at. I know at Sidwell where lots of the politicians in DC send their kids have LOTS of armed security. Just like Hollywood types have against guns have armed security

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#109 Jan 16, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>They all had mental health issues. Some might have been on psychtropic drugs for treatment or simply not benn taking the properly perscribed ones. Who really knows. Loughner was a schitzoid who hated public figures of authority,thus the Giffords shooting. Holmes,who was darn near MENSA material was stressed over failing in school and went bonkers. Lanza went hewhack apparently when he discovered his Mom was looking into having him committed. Only they know for sure and I'm not sure they could even tell you. The one overiding fact is this,with the exception of the Giffords shooting the rest chose gun free areas.
Anytime people commit heinous acts the public accepts they were crazy but what factor is making young white males crazy and choosing to act in this particular way?

Why isn't it males are even females in their thirties or forties too?

Why is it white males?

There is something else going on besides individuality or available weapons.

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#110 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>You have got to be kidding right?
Texas mass shootings since those liberal gun carrying laws were passed, how many and where did they take place?
You consider Fort Hood Texas a gun free zone? Hardly
I've been to Ft. Hood several times and am familiar with that part of the base. Yes,that was a gun free zone. Basically most of the base is,in a sense. Soldiers on base don't walk around all the time with loaded rifles. Outside of drill,cleaning or weapons training rifles are kept locked up in the unit armory.

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#111 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>The veteran at my house agrees with you on that and is frustrated by the term being misused.
I think what people are more concerned about is the size of the clip holding 30 rounds for example.
But if they banned the sale of these clips couldn't people rig something up themselves to do the same thing or easily make ad sell that type of clip illegally?
You just made a common mistake that drives me crazy and you hear it all the time from people who pretend to be experts on guns. A clip and a magazine are two totally different things. There are no high capacity clips. There are high capacity magazines. A clip is used to load bullets into a magazine. Clips were used to load bullets in bolt action rifles. The M-1 had a block clip that was loaded into the magazine and popped out after the last round was fired.It was semi-auto. You can fire 2 thirty round magazines or 6 10 round magazines . It take so very little time to change a mag. The are often taped together so you pull the mag and just turn it around. The more rounds a magazine hold the more likely it is to jam because the springs are under such tension they were out

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#112 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>Anytime people commit heinous acts the public accepts they were crazy but what factor is making young white males crazy and choosing to act in this particular way?
Why isn't it males are even females in their thirties or forties too?
Why is it white males?
There is something else going on besides individuality or available weapons.
Can't say for sure. As I put in my last post there could be a coorelation with the drugs or lack of they may or are supposed to be on.

As to the white part I don't know. Maybe the black serial shooters are camoflauged in the inner cities,hide better and restrict their shootings to rival gangs......for the most part.

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#113 Jan 16, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>I've been to Ft. Hood several times and am familiar with that part of the base. Yes,that was a gun free zone. Basically most of the base is,in a sense. Soldiers on base don't walk around all the time with loaded rifles. Outside of drill,cleaning or weapons training rifles are kept locked up in the unit armory.
Never been there so Ill take your word fr it but still all those liberal gun laws inTexas hasn't stopped any shootings

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#114 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>You have got to be kidding right?
Texas mass shootings since those liberal gun carrying laws were passed, how many and where did they take place?
You consider Fort Hood Texas a gun free zone? Hardly
Yes Fort Hood was very much a gun free zone. Almost no one is armed on a military base. The military police are armed just like our civilian police but there are no weapons that aren't in the armory. You can't carry a private weapon even if you have a CCL. There are a lot more people with CCL who are armed off base and none armed CCL on base

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#115 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>I agree not only with the cost but the fact I don't see what good it would do.
They have security guards usually off duty cops at movie theaters but what good does it do other than break up rowdy kids or swabbles?
No I don't like the idea of armed teachers for many, many reasons.
The theater in Colorado prohibited guns. Again a gun free zone

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#116 Jan 16, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Eben if they banned the sale/manufacture of hi-cap mags today there are virtually MILLIONS of them in circulation,for a wide variety of rifles that use them. Magazines are fairly simple. Bent/folded sheet steel with a wire coil spring and a piece of plastic for a bullet follower(the thing that the bullets sit on and are pushed up by the spring. A couple guys could set up a little shop in a garage and crank out black market mags real easy. They wouldn't even have to be the 30 round hi-caps,these require a "curve",similar to a banana due to the configuration that amount of ammo creates when stacked. A 20 round mag is straight and simple.
The original M-16, a true assault rifle originally came with a 20 round mag. I was capable of full auto and could empty a mag before the first case hit the ground

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#118 Jan 16, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>You just made a common mistake that drives me crazy and you hear it all the time from people who pretend to be experts on guns. A clip and a magazine are two totally different things. There are no high capacity clips. There are high capacity magazines. A clip is used to load bullets into a magazine. Clips were used to load bullets in bolt action rifles. The M-1 had a block clip that was loaded into the magazine and popped out after the last round was fired.It was semi-auto. You can fire 2 thirty round magazines or 6 10 round magazines . It take so very little time to change a mag. The are often taped together so you pull the mag and just turn it around. The more rounds a magazine hold the more likely it is to jam because the springs are under such tension they were out
Unlike you I never claimed to be an expert.

In fact I was asking a question. I hope you aren't as aggressive with your weapons as you are with your posts and attitude on topix.

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#119 Jan 16, 2013
-Topicks Puppet Show- wrote:
<quoted text>That is what I was thinking so I don't see how any law would control it
If the problem was the weapon itself then why is it only young white males in their twenties that are doing these shootings?
Doesn't it seem the problems are being caused by some factor other than the available weapons?
McVeigh killed far more with fertilizer

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#117 Jan 16, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Yes Fort Hood was very much a gun free zone. Almost no one is armed on a military base. The military police are armed just like our civilian police but there are no weapons that aren't in the armory. You can't carry a private weapon even if you have a CCL. There are a lot more people with CCL who are armed off base and none armed CCL on base
Well, YOU insist that all gun shows allow people to walk in locked and loaded so, you are not a good source of truth at all.

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#120 Jan 16, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>The theater in Colorado prohibited guns. Again a gun free zone
Paul Blart, Mall Cop, says that all the other theaters in Aurora allowed guns so, they are Massacre Free Zones.

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#121 Jan 16, 2013
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>McVeigh killed far more with fertilizer
Thank heaven, YOUR fertilizer is harmless!

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