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#1047 Feb 13, 2013
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
How ironic. The "we'll let you womenfolk know what you can do with your bodies" Self-Righteous Right wants to allow abortions under very few circumstances. Then five minutes after birth, that newborn and Mom are on their own financially. Their "save babies and push for the death penalty, for crimes worse that jaywalking" stance is equally ironic. LOL
Choice is as passionate a dicussion as Weapons.

Nobody wants their 2nd amendent rights taking away and Woman who are for Choice doesn't want our Rights taking away that was put into law 40 yrs. ago. Roe vs Wade.

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#1048 Feb 13, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Its a given the pill isn't an absolute nor are condoms. They are just a percentage based means of prevention. Working more often than not they are better than doing nothing tom prevent an unwanted pregnancy. As I said,first trimester-maybe second in some cases I'm okay with. But to delay termination after that makes you wonder WTF are they thinking? Do they want to terminate or not? I don't know/have experience about or pretend to understand all the circumstances of why or why not abortions are decided on. I just know how I feel about it,others are welcome to their own opinions and its no one else's business to pry. Every case is different on its own merit.
I agree with late term abortion unless of course the baby is already dead which happens or now with tech being what it is they can tell alot about if a baby will survive outside the womb.

Hey look we kinda agree on something, We're making progress.!!!

Just think, if the pill had worked I wouldn't be here for you to pull my pigtails..ha!*wink*

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#1049 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with late term abortion unless of course the baby is already dead which happens or now with tech being what it is they can tell alot about if a baby will survive outside the womb.
Hey look we kinda agree on something, We're making progress.!!!
Just think, if the pill had worked I wouldn't be here for you to pull my pigtails..ha!*wink*
I'm fast becoming a believer in retro-active abortion.... There are people in this world that after their arrival have proven themselves unworthy of the priviledge......

I've always been torn about the issue but figured its not my place to be abusive about pushing my views. I don't care for the procedure but its a live-withable one. I'd rather have a safe abortion in a sanitary enviroment for those determined than a botched one done in a nasty room,by some semi-knowledgable crone with a piece of wire.

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#1050 Feb 13, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Ironic.... Supporting convicted murderers for life in the name of "social justice" and aborting babies in the name of "reproductive rights".
I defended neither abortion on demand nor the "rights" of convicted criminals, but please assume away. I find it funny that you appear to have gotten you panties in a bunch on a post directed to another poster that referred to the "Right." I also couldn't help but notice that you didn't reply to either of the points I mentioned in that prior. Have a good one!

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#1051 Feb 13, 2013
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>I read Sublime's post about putting children into state-run institutions (orphanages) and I'm amazed at the hypocrisy of someone who is "against big government" yet thinks government should take peoples children and raise them! What the-????
No welfare, no WIC, no Head Start programs- just snatch the kids and make them wards of the state?????
Government can't get any bigger than when it's small enough to micro-manage people's lives.
Let me tell you a story thats has similarities,

I've went to horse auctions for as long as I can remember. There were always ppl there who would buy horses to send to slaughter at $1.00 a pd. Healthy fat horses. We all knew who these ppl were and we would try and bid the horses up so it wouldn't be worth it for the( killers) to bid on them.

A few yrs, back PETA closed down all the slaughter houses in the US and I thought that was great because good horse were being slaughtered for money..FOR GREED.

After this law passed the bottom fell out of the horse market. Ppl who would take their horse to sell because they couldn't feed all winter etc were stuck with these horse. They then started turning them loose on open land where on a good Sat. night ppl would get drunk and go shoot at them. Herds of horses, no water, no food, bleeding with nobody to look after them.

Which was the less of the two evils?

That is always my question when ppl are AGAINST choice.

Abortion rights or pay for these unwanted children who get abused until they're 18.

Which is the less of the two evils?

I think sometimes ppl need to take a look at the big picture..

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#1052 Feb 13, 2013
Art Of Posting Well wrote:
<quoted text>Do you feel the same about folks who need welfare?
Not a very good shot at deflection. But if thats the best you can do......

Apples and oranges. Different as day and night. BUT,I DO think we need to help the TRULY needy. Trouble is the system's standards have been SOOOOO loosened that if you can walk in the office and apply you're pretty much in. Fraud is rampant. Costing BILLIONS in tax dollars we can't afford. EBT/food stamps have become and underground economy. The system needs an overhaul and better oversight. Case in point: When someone dressed REALLY nice drives to the welfare office in a two year old car it makes you wonder if they really are needy. Or someone who instead of letting the case worker set the appointment date/time insists on coming in when it doesn't interfere with her job schedule. Or how about the person collecting fron multiple sates? Having residences in dual or even triple states to collect benefits? After doing several stints doing security at our regional welfare office I've heard the stories from case workers disgusted with the system's rules they are forced to go by in the laxity/oversight of applications.

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Since: Apr 10

USA

#1053 Feb 13, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>I'm fast becoming a believer in retro-active abortion.... There are people in this world that after their arrival have proven themselves unworthy of the priviledge......
I've always been torn about the issue but figured its not my place to be abusive about pushing my views. I don't care for the procedure but its a live-withable one. I'd rather have a safe abortion in a sanitary enviroment for those determined than a botched one done in a nasty room,by some semi-knowledgable crone with a piece of wire.
Amen to that... You see we who are Pro-Choice really don't want abortions as some think we want them to be rare but also safe if needed.

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Since: Jun 11

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#1054 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Choice is as passionate a dicussion as Weapons.
Nobody wants their 2nd amendent rights taking away and Woman who are for Choice doesn't want our Rights taking away that was put into law 40 yrs. ago. Roe vs Wade.
I agree with a recent comment I heard that reproductive decisions should be made only by women, who can reproduce. I do not believe abortion should be used as a form of B C, I believe I should have the right to keep and lawfully use my sporting firearms and I believe in the death penalty, under certain circumstances.

“Denny Crain”

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#1055 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> It does amaze me how clueless ppl are about Choice and why so many are for it..
A child can't get an aspirin at school without the parents permission but she can get an abortion. Something wrong there

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Since: Jan 07

Goodby Hillary

#1056 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me tell you a story thats has similarities,
I've went to horse auctions for as long as I can remember. There were always ppl there who would buy horses to send to slaughter at $1.00 a pd. Healthy fat horses. We all knew who these ppl were and we would try and bid the horses up so it wouldn't be worth it for the( killers) to bid on them.
A few yrs, back PETA closed down all the slaughter houses in the US and I thought that was great because good horse were being slaughtered for money..FOR GREED.
After this law passed the bottom fell out of the horse market. Ppl who would take their horse to sell because they couldn't feed all winter etc were stuck with these horse. They then started turning them loose on open land where on a good Sat. night ppl would get drunk and go shoot at them. Herds of horses, no water, no food, bleeding with nobody to look after them.
Which was the less of the two evils?
That is always my question when ppl are AGAINST choice.
Abortion rights or pay for these unwanted children who get abused until they're 18.
Which is the less of the two evils?
I think sometimes ppl need to take a look at the big picture..
I'd love to be able to have time to keep a horse. Got the land,barn. Affordability not a problem,even got a darn saddle. Time is my problem. Horses take time to fool with if you're going to do it right.

I had couple offered to me in the last few years but just couldn't take them. AS you compare the situations you're right in that the complications aren't easily explained,understood or decided on. Sometimes the lesser of two evils is just as distasteful as the other choice,but what to do? Economy or morality? There comes a point when economy,affordability,must be given serious thought. The question tho is,how do we temper it with morality?

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Since: Apr 10

USA

#1057 Feb 13, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>A child can't get an aspirin at school without the parents permission but she can get an abortion. Something wrong there
Only if 18 in Ohio so I don't know what TX DOES...

“Denny Crain”

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Since: Jan 11

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#1058 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Only if 18 in Ohio so I don't know what TX DOES...
I have no problem with abortion in the first trimester. It is those late term one that are so wrong.

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#1059 Feb 13, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>I'd love to be able to have time to keep a horse. Got the land,barn. Affordability not a problem,even got a darn saddle. Time is my problem. Horses take time to fool with if you're going to do it right.
I had couple offered to me in the last few years but just couldn't take them. AS you compare the situations you're right in that the complications aren't easily explained,understood or decided on. Sometimes the lesser of two evils is just as distasteful as the other choice,but what to do? Economy or morality? There comes a point when economy,affordability,must be given serious thought. The question tho is,how do we temper it with morality?
I agree. I know horses and humans are different but it's the only example I could think of to make ppl see all thigs are not black and white. There are always shades of gray..That is why I'm an Independent. I can see both sides of many of our issues..

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Since: Jan 07

Goodby Hillary

#1060 Feb 13, 2013
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
How ironic. The "we'll let you womenfolk know what you can do with your bodies" Self-Righteous Right wants to allow abortions under very few circumstances. Then five minutes after birth, that newborn and Mom are on their own financially. Their "save babies and push for the death penalty, for crimes worse that jaywalking" stance is equally ironic. LOL
Sorry,let me give you a deserved reply. SOME on the "right" want abortions under NO circumstances. The majority think it wrong but say little since it really isn't their place to say so. One of those judge not lest you be judged thingies.... As for being on their own 5 minutes after birth,THAT canard is a lib propaganda schtick. I have NEVER heard of such a occurance. Period. We have safety nets for those circumstances. IF a woman is "on her own" it was due to 1. ignorance of assistance available, 2. Laziness to get off her azz and seek help, 3. illegal as he11,calving in America and running like a scalded azz ape to avoid getting caught fearing deportation.

Consider yourself responded to.

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Since: Jan 07

Goodby Hillary

#1061 Feb 13, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>A child can't get an aspirin at school without the parents permission but she can get an abortion. Something wrong there
Some hyped-up swtories we hear in the news we need to take with a BIG grain of salt. Sensationalism sells well in the media. That doesn't mean in the public education system that many haven't been bit by the dumbazz bug,many have,but we need to not take these stories at face value just because the lame stream media told us so.

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Since: Apr 10

USA

#1062 Feb 13, 2013
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>I'd love to be able to have time to keep a horse. Got the land,barn. Affordability not a problem,even got a darn saddle. Time is my problem. Horses take time to fool with if you're going to do it right.
I had couple offered to me in the last few years but just couldn't take them. AS you compare the situations you're right in that the complications aren't easily explained,understood or decided on. Sometimes the lesser of two evils is just as distasteful as the other choice,but what to do? Economy or morality? There comes a point when economy,affordability,must be given serious thought. The question tho is,how do we temper it with morality?
Hey let me float you an idea.

Contact your local Animal Shelter and offer to be a rescue barn. That way you could spend time with horses as in being a foster owner to see if you would have the time to be with one of your own.

You help get them well so they can be adopted and maybe you might want to adopt yourself..

Just saying...

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#1065 Feb 13, 2013
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>I have no problem with abortion in the first trimester. It is those late term one that are so wrong.
Denny many of us Pro Choice ppl feel the same way.

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Since: Jan 07

Goodby Hillary

#1066 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> I agree. I know horses and humans are different but it's the only example I could think of to make ppl see all thigs are not black and white. There are always shades of gray..That is why I'm an Independent. I can see both sides of many of our issues..
No the example is a good one. People sometimes don't relate to the human factor,but throw in critters and sometimes the light bulb comes on. Facts are black/white. It gets grey when we factor in the different variables each situation entails.

“Denny Crain”

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#1067 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Denny many of us Pro Choice ppl feel the same way.
I think the morning after pill is great. If in doubt do something about it. A Catholic a Baptist and a Jew were talking about when life begins. The Catholic said it began at conception while the Baptist said it came at the quickening. The Jew said the kids grow up and leave home and life begins :)

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Since: Jan 07

Goodby Hillary

#1068 Feb 13, 2013
Ohio Cowgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Hey let me float you an idea.
Contact your local Animal Shelter and offer to be a rescue barn. That way you could spend time with horses as in being a foster owner to see if you would have the time to be with one of your own.
You help get them well so they can be adopted and maybe you might want to adopt yourself..
Just saying...
That has been thought over. Still considering it. With my job I have duties that eat holes in a timeframe. My Field Super likes dependability so I'm on call to fill in at other posts if an officer falls ill and they can't juggle the schedule with the current post staff,in addition to being post supervisor here. Luckily I have good people close by I can have fill in for me if I'm called.

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