Six first-degree murder charges for mother

Apr 29, 2014 Full story: WTLV 74

Prosecutors have filed six first-degree murder charges against a Utah woman accused of killing six babies after giving birth to them, and keeping their bodies in boxes in her garage.

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“New & Improved..”

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#66 May 1, 2014
Prosperity Fundieraiser wrote:
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Well, coming from a Birther like yourself that is a compliment.
Let's review. Here's the gibberish you posted:
"The only problem with this line of logic is she didn't decide what to do with her own body, she decided what to do with 6 baby bodies..( non consensually I can only assume )"
In that broken sentence you are equating born infants and first trimester fetuses. That's the only implication of your comparison of these two very different instances. And it's a really sick equating.
So if you think a first trimester fetus is tantamount to an infant human being, then in that (insane) case we should therefore accord all fetuses the same treatment we grant to infants: Counting in the census, Social Security numbers, deductions as dependents on tax forms.
Of course following through the right wing "logic" that a fetus is the same thing as a born human being reveals how very anti rational these so called "right to life" kooks are. But you couldn't follow the train of thought. And you certainly will never realize anything is wrong or inconsistent in your position...whose implications you can't follow or acknowledge.
Disgusting.
You babble like the poster child for the Chewbacca defense..

take another toy from the top shelf..
charlie

San Jose, CA

#67 May 1, 2014
I think abortion in the first trimester is mostly the norm in Europe. Wonder why the difference between Europe and the US? I think most of the controversy would go away here if abortion was legal only in the first three months of pregnancy. Or in most cases anyway.
Prosperity Fundieraiser

Philadelphia, PA

#68 May 1, 2014
justaguess wrote:
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You babble like
How like anti rational tee baggrz and fundies to never address the content.

I only want moron right wingers who clearly equate fetuses and people to go the whole way of their "logic" and actually treat fetuses like we treat people - counted in the census, dependents on tax returns, Social Security numbers.

Even a Birther could follow this.(Not Purple Girl, though.)
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#70 May 2, 2014
JoyceP wrote:
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I read this entire thread and cannot find any posts from her....BTW, nobody is telling you what to do with your uterus...
Who knows what you meant by that first sentence. Obviously the person I responded to had posted something.

If you meant PG then you should have been coherent enough to say so. And she's around, don't worry about that.

Of course no one is telling me what to do with a body part I don't have, The fussbudget, sexually sick tee baggrz and fundies are most definitely restricting women's bodies in all sorts of ways.

Did jaysus say you could lie all the time about everything?

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#71 May 2, 2014
saint huh
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#73 May 2, 2014
tallyho wrote:
saint huh
Saint of what again?

Poor tally thinks he's reading misspellings all the time.

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#75 May 2, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
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Saint of what again?
Poor tally thinks he's reading misspellings all the time.
Saint porn

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#76 May 2, 2014
interesting wrote:
<quoted text>he isnt hes a politician
interesting
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#77 May 2, 2014
JoyceP wrote:
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I haven't seen a single post from her in this thread....Since you lack a uterus, you have no place in this debate and have no right attacking pro-life women.
You still didn't say which "her" you are raving about.

And of course I replied to people who posted. That's why you won't be specific - because I'll go back and get the quotes.

How sick your pro life nonsense is:

I'm not forcing any pro life woman to get an abortion. We _know_ who is restricting choice - the "pro life" zealots. Furthermore, those restrictions on choice are _overwhelmingly_ enacted by persons who do not have a uterus. Go apply your deranged standard of a uterus being a requirement to those male, right wing, freeek politicians equally.

The usual fundie / tee baggrz malady of continually reversing black for white, up for down, inside for outside. Really sick.
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#79 May 2, 2014
JoyceP wrote:
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What I said was VERY clear.
Wrong._Now_ you have said it was PG you were referencing. Or that's what you claim.

I think, as I clearly said, that she was in this thread. I didn't say you could find her moniker on a post.

I know perfectly well what you have posted about choice:

1. That, supposedly, those who are pro choice are the ones actually restricting choice. Which is nutty.

2. That persons without a uterus of their own cannot, supposedly, be involved in the debate over choice. Which is nutty, of course, since all the anti choice laws came from men, overwhelmingly.

3. That you couldn't or wouldn't follow the simple argument that you must consider fetuses to be persons...based on your posts. I merely told you to then actually treat fetuses as persons if that's what you believe - give the fetuses Social Security numbers, count them in the census, allow them as tax deductible dependents. Since you obviously think they are persons base don what you have posted.

The only problem here is that you don't like the implications of ignorantly equating fetuses and infants. That's all you're making a stink about, being called out on that illogic.
Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#81 May 2, 2014
JoyceP wrote:
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1. I never exactly said that nor did I mean such. I was referring to how you attack pro-choice WOMEN and try to silence their views.
2. Again, you as a MAN have no right to attack pro-life WOMEN. It is women's bodies. And you are right that men shouldn't have a right to legislate against women. But I never said that I personally was prolife nor anti, and that is not your business.
3. What is YOUR vested interest as a MAN in fetuses not being considered on par with humans?...I never said fetuses were or weren't persons
All dissembling nonsense. By the way, your second point sounds like a classic PG one.

1. You did take issue with my argument that fetuses and infants are different. And that is a standard right wing trope - that fetuses and infants are the same. That theme runs through this thread.

2. You changed the subject from your saying that people who are pro choice are actually anti choice.

If you fault men for disagreeing with anti choice women then by any logic you would oppose all laws limiting choice, since those are all made, overwhelmingly, by men.

Of course it's nutty you have to be a woman to have an opinion about breast cancer among women, or human trafficking of women, or a woman's right to choose, or that, obviously, it's the anti choice people of whatever gender are the ones limiting choice. Not the pro choice persons...because obviously pro choice persons don't wish to _force_ anyone to get an abortion.

3. I have explained my "vested interest" in not considering fetuses to be the same as infants many times. Why are you obtuse. I said doing so is insane. It would necessarily, carried to it "logical" conclusions, mean fetuses being counted in the census, given Social Security numbers, counting as dependents for tax purposes.

It would also restrict a woman's right to choose. So I oppose this nutso idea that fetuses are the same as infants.

Meanwhile, you apparently find my position - that a fetus is not the same as a human being - objectionable...while at the same time stating you have not stated a position on choice. Well that's nutty. You have, in your trolling, PG way, stated a pro life position many times over here.

“New & Improved..”

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Formerly From Kenya

#82 May 2, 2014
Discussion with a grey box is pointless & futile..been there...done that...not again..

Either way...this thread is about a woman that has given birth to six....that would be 6 babies, full term...not some trimester issue...not some point of law or what is right...etc...6 babies born, breathing...she then murdered them and put them in boxes in the garage...

Anyone that doesn't understand these facts is a complete idiot...nuff said...

She should be tried as a murderer and face the penalties as such..

Now for ricky S greybox...
Chewbacca is from Endor...

your debates and life views are hilarious so please..do keep em up..It really does make my day to read your tripe ..!!

That back pedal you attempted about your purple girl remark was classic..!
Out to Lunch

Titusville, FL

#85 May 17, 2014
Crack babies? Was the mother a drug user and if she were, would she have gone to jail for delivering drug addicted babies? It seems that she would have adopted the babies out to loving homes that would have cared for the babies and possibly paid her rent during pregnancy.
Paris Hilton

Medford, NY

#86 May 19, 2014
OMG!!! They should kill her six times!!!!!

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