Teacher disciplined for 'Santa is whi...

Teacher disciplined for 'Santa is white' comment

There are 131 comments on the The Arizona Republic story from Dec 16, 2013, titled Teacher disciplined for 'Santa is white' comment. In it, The Arizona Republic reports that:

A New Mexico high school teacher has been disciplined after a parent says the man told his black son that Santa Claus is white.

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YOLO

Buford, GA

#41 Dec 17, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I have little doubt that, as a historical figure, Jesus was Hebrew. But he was not the pure white figure portrayed in Hollywood movies, and perpetuated in most statuary. It's a safe bet that a white Jesus is an invention.
I agree that he is not the pale blue eyed European portrayed but being Hebrew he is not black either.

There hasn't been some huge evolutionary difference among Hebrews in the last 2000 years and even intermarriage was limited since it is a endogamous culture
YOLO

Buford, GA

#42 Dec 17, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>The persons you mention are real people, and there is no denying their race. But a mythical figure like Santa should be as personalized as the child needs him to be. Maybe we need a team of Santas to be more representative to more kids.
Sometimes reality is overrated.
Superman is totally fictional wouldn't that be a better place to start? If you want fiction then create it not alter the facts to suit.

All I'm saying is Santa is based on a known historical figure and he wasn't black.

Wouldn't it be better to accept that and for race to stop making a difference instead of trying to alter it?

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#43 Dec 17, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Lylah, despite the negative icons from the bigoted stooges on this thread, your comment is spot on.
What is even more absurd is the ignorant conceit that Jesus was white.
Lol y thank you...
And I know have u seen the footage of that mess rolling off bullsht mountain..hahaha.
If u think logically about where the holy land was then its more likely Jesus skin was a bit darker than white. But they just believe what they are told. Not many think for themself any more. Dumbing down of America. And the world for that matter!!

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#44 Dec 17, 2013
YOLO wrote:
<quoted text> I agree that he is not the pale blue eyed European portrayed but being Hebrew he is not black either.
There hasn't been some huge evolutionary difference among Hebrews in the last 2000 years and even intermarriage was limited since it is a endogamous culture
The overriding point is that many of us tend to "whitewash" our heroes, as though their true selves are not admirable enough. Therein lurks the shadow of racism.

But there are also other subtle signs of our bigoted ways of idealizing our "heroes". We whitewash Moses until he becomes Charleton Heston, for example. We take our heroes and heroines and turn the into flawless beings, who never lied, cheated, or expelled gas.
I guess it's okay to have heroes. Just don't get too close.

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#45 Dec 17, 2013
YOLO wrote:
<quoted text> Superman is totally fictional wouldn't that be a better place to start? If you want fiction then create it not alter the facts to suit.
All I'm saying is Santa is based on a known historical figure and he wasn't black.
Wouldn't it be better to accept that and for race to stop making a difference instead of trying to alter it?
Yes,when a black kid can see himself in a white Santa.

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Formerly From Kenya

#46 Dec 17, 2013
I'm still miffed about this whole Robin Hood isn't white thingy...Santa is soooo next week..!

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YOLO

United States

#47 Dec 17, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Yes,when a black kid can see himself in a white Santa.
Himself huh?

Aren't you going to argue that little girls can never see themselves as Santa since he is always portrayed as male?

It is so important that children can see themselves in that role since it is such a good career opportunity? Sheesh.

No I don't think it is necessary to change either the race or gender of Santa and to insist on doing so seems more like reverse racism to me.
Jangle Bells

Inverness, FL

#49 Dec 17, 2013
Judging by the skin color of most of the inhabitants living near or above the Arctic Circle, one could reasonably assume that the legendary being, if real, would have been light skinned. That does not, however, make the teacher's actions any less offensive.

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Since: Jan 07

Chicago, IL

#50 Dec 17, 2013
Even Black Santa has a white beard. Isn't that odd?
YOLO

United States

#51 Dec 17, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
Even Black Santa has a white beard. Isn't that odd?
You better run Bozo before they start objecting to your whiteface.

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#52 Dec 17, 2013
YOLO wrote:
<quoted text>Himself huh?
Aren't you going to argue that little girls can never see themselves as Santa since he is always portrayed as male?
It is so important that children can see themselves in that role since it is such a good career opportunity? Sheesh.
No I don't think it is necessary to change either the race or gender of Santa and to insist on doing so seems more like reverse racism to me.
First of all, there is no need to change the race of white Santa. You can add to the white Santa with Santas of other races and ethnicities. That way, kids will have a choice among Santas.

Your observation of Santa being male is interesting. You might be giving N.O.W. something to think about.
Still, from what i can see, little girls seem to like a male Santa, so there is no real problem there.
You're getting a bit snippy there YOLO, so I guess we've exhausted the topic, at least as far as I'm concerned.
BuckOfama

Alexandria, VA

#53 Dec 18, 2013
Santa is White. He is a product of Scandinavian and German folklore. Born in a White society of Northern Europe. So unless someone can prove Santa is otherwise a Black man creation, Santa is, and will always be White. That is a simple fact.

The teacher said and did nothing wrong. The teacher is 100% correct.
BuckOfama

Alexandria, VA

#54 Dec 18, 2013
YOLO wrote:
But St Nicholas who was Greek would be considered white wouldn't he?
St Nicholas is not Santa Claus. St Nicholas was a really person. Santa Claus is from German, Dutch, folklore based on pagan gods. He existed well before Christianity in the people of that region of Europe.

It was the Christians who merged the idea of St Nicholas and Santa Claus as one.
beatlesinthebog

Palmerston North, New Zealand

#55 Dec 18, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>I have little doubt that, as a historical figure, Jesus was Hebrew. But he was not the pure white figure portrayed in Hollywood movies, and perpetuated in most statuary. It's a safe bet that a white Jesus is an invention.
You mean Mel Gibson got it wrong ?...damn
Mrs Clause

Huntington, NY

#56 Dec 18, 2013
Santa is indeed white, but he has certain body parts that would lead you to believe he has some black heritage!!!

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#57 Dec 18, 2013
I like to picture Santa as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey,...
Jerry Springer type media

Biloxi, MS

#58 Dec 18, 2013
The only problem was giving the student too much credit for knowing what was going on around him. Fox news, John Stuwert & Colbert were all having fun with this subject the week that the teacher made the joke .The real insult comes from the Father who does not give a 9th grader any credit he is due..It is no wonder Teachers are leaving the State for greener pastures
Sgt Hulka

Huntington, NY

#59 Dec 18, 2013
Lighten up Francis.

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#60 Dec 18, 2013
FYI, Santa is a Robot.

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#61 Dec 18, 2013
Naughtyrobot wrote:
FYI, Santa is a Robot.


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