IRS - It's Really Shameful

IRS - It's Really Shameful

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“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

South Bend, IN

#1 May 15, 2013
When an arm of the government becomes so gigantic, powerful and lawless, it's time for it to go. Before it is too late.

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Hoosierville

#2 May 15, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
Before it is too late.
You think!(?) What are you going to send with it?
Maybe, the Federal Reserve, lobbying, PAC's, etc & etc!

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#3 May 15, 2013
It is already too late.
I would like to see them stop the nonprofit statuses. No exceptions, no churches, no hospitals, nothing.
Liver Wurst

Huntington, NY

#4 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
It is already too late.
I would like to see them stop the nonprofit statuses. No exceptions, no churches, no hospitals, nothing.
Agreed!!!

Every money making/gathering organization should pay....They all reap the benefits.

“"*" Always Thinking "*"”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Hoosierville

#5 May 15, 2013
MI your right!
Always Wary you were right 1 st.
So 'i'm turd!'i' mean 3rd...
M69's joke's!!!
Hello Dali

United States

#6 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
It is already too late.
I would like to see them stop the nonprofit statuses. No exceptions, no churches, no hospitals, nothing.
Yeah!

Applause for you!

“We're all Bozos on this bus”

Since: Jan 07

South Bend, IN

#7 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
It is already too late.
I would like to see them stop the nonprofit statuses. No exceptions, no churches, no hospitals, nothing.
The 'not' part unfortunately doesn't extend to the people who operate them. They profit nicely. They can pull down millions for themselves and do just hundreds for the group they are supposedly helping. Not all cases, obviously, but there's really nothing to ensure it doesn't happen -- beyond honesty, which is really scarce anymore.

We just had two of these jackasses brought down after several years of running a not-for-profit and writing themselves checks, one that was reported was over $700,000. They were 99.999% a scam but they got to work under the guise of a charitable organization for a long, long time. There are millions of N-F-P's and you gotta wonder how many of them are never discovered for what they are.
Better Idea

United States

#8 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
It is already too late.
I would like to see them stop the nonprofit statuses. No exceptions, no churches, no hospitals, nothing.
FLAT TAX 10 PERCENT, political organizations included ,GET RID OF THE IRS!, but why punish churches, hospitals and organizations which actually try to do GOOD???? If you don't like religion, then don't practice it. Don't persecute it either, lest you become a fascist.

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#9 May 15, 2013
Better Idea wrote:
<quoted text>FLAT TAX 10 PERCENT, political organizations included ,GET RID OF THE IRS!, but why punish churches, hospitals and organizations which actually try to do GOOD???? If you don't like religion, then don't practice it. Don't persecute it either, lest you become a fascist.
It has nothing to do religion it has everything to do with their tax status.

No one group or person above another. What we have now is elected representatives repaying their backers with tax breaks, this is not a partisan issue, both parties do it.

Exceptions seem to be a large problem in this country. If you allow an exemption for one you must allow for another, then another, etc.... If we are equal we should all share equally in the responsibilities, including the taxes. This would also help to equal the burden instead of only the most poorly represented having to pay the most(percentage wise), don't you think so?

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#10 May 15, 2013
Uh Clem wrote:
<quoted text>
The 'not' part unfortunately doesn't extend to the people who operate them. They profit nicely. They can pull down millions for themselves and do just hundreds for the group they are supposedly helping. Not all cases, obviously, but there's really nothing to ensure it doesn't happen -- beyond honesty, which is really scarce anymore.
We just had two of these jackasses brought down after several years of running a not-for-profit and writing themselves checks, one that was reported was over $700,000. They were 99.999% a scam but they got to work under the guise of a charitable organization for a long, long time. There are millions of N-F-P's and you gotta wonder how many of them are never discovered for what they are.
Exactly.
And

United States

#11 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
<quoted text>It has nothing to do religion it has everything to do with their tax status.
No one group or person above another. What we have now is elected representatives repaying their backers with tax breaks, this is not a partisan issue, both parties do it.
Exceptions seem to be a large problem in this country. If you allow an exemption for one you must allow for another, then another, etc.... If we are equal we should all share equally in the responsibilities, including the taxes. This would also help to equal the burden instead of only the most poorly represented having to pay the most(percentage wise), don't you think so?
The FLAT TAX would address most of that. One of the finest hospitals in the country is near where I live. They are not for profit, and Methodist by name. They literally work "miracles" in their cardiac unit, as well as other areas. Why should entities that actually do something good be taxed into oblivion? You must be an OBAMACRAT......

“Don't call it an attack”

Level 8

Since: Jun 11

It was an AMBUSH

#12 May 15, 2013
Better Idea wrote:
<quoted text>FLAT TAX 10 PERCENT, political organizations included ,GET RID OF THE IRS!, but why punish churches, hospitals and organizations which actually try to do GOOD???? If you don't like religion, then don't practice it. Don't persecute it either, lest you become a fascist.
Church's try to do good?

Westboro Baptist Church

Sex scandals in the Catholic Churches

Jim and Tammy Baker

It goes on and on and on!

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#13 May 15, 2013
And wrote:
<quoted text>The FLAT TAX would address most of that. One of the finest hospitals in the country is near where I live. They are not for profit, and Methodist by name. They literally work "miracles" in their cardiac unit, as well as other areas. Why should entities that actually do something good be taxed into oblivion? You must be an OBAMACRAT......
I'm not saying tax them into oblivion.
How do you define who is worthy and who isn't? Who would do the defining? We certainly can't let the politicians do it, we are in this boat because of them.

Would cardiac care get exceptions but not trees? Would EXON get a break and not the wind farm? Would the Methodist church get one but not the Catholic church, how about the New Age groups, Wicca?

Exceptions to the rule create the problems.
Not Everyone

United States

#14 May 15, 2013
DondoDork wrote:
<quoted text>
Church's try to do good?
Westboro Baptist Church
Sex scandals in the Catholic Churches
Jim and Tammy Baker
It goes on and on and on!
Is the Westboro church, catholic, or televangelists. Religious entities do more to help the poor and needy than all of the government bureaucracies COMBINED.

Bottom line: We still need charities, just not government benefitting "charities". Get rid of the PACS.
First Amendment

United States

#15 May 15, 2013
Always Wary wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not saying tax them into oblivion.
How do you define who is worthy and who isn't? Who would do the defining? We certainly can't let the politicians do it, we are in this boat because of them.
Would cardiac care get exceptions but not trees? Would EXON get a break and not the wind farm? Would the Methodist church get one but not the Catholic church, how about the New Age groups, Wicca?
Exceptions to the rule create the problems.
Wouldn't taxing churches violate the separation of church and state? Think about it for a while.

“Don't call it an attack”

Level 8

Since: Jun 11

It was an AMBUSH

#17 May 15, 2013
Not Everyone wrote:
<quoted text>Is the Westboro church, catholic, or televangelists. Religious entities do more to help the poor and needy than all of the government bureaucracies COMBINED.
Bottom line: We still need charities, just not government benefitting "charities". Get rid of the PACS.
Do you remember the United Way scandal a few years ago? Do you remember the FEMA scandal after Katrina hit? I'm ok with charities that make less than 10 percent being tax exempt but not for the ones that pay their execs hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm OK with hospitals being exempt as long as they also do charitable operations on American citizens. I'm even ok with Churches being exempt as long as they also have a soup kitchen and offer clothing and blankets for low income or homeless people. What I'm not ok with is these churches getting tithings off the congregation and the Pastor/Preacher driving a brand new Lexus/Cadillac while the people of the church can barely pay their electric bill.
School Of Hard Knocks

United States

#18 May 15, 2013
Good Grief! Wind farms are getting all the "breaks" from Obama, as well as GE, who have moved a LOT of their manufacturing overseas since 2008. They payed ZERO taxes in 2011. Can you guess who Obama's "Job Czar" is? Oh, yeah, it's JEFF IMMELT, the CEO of GE. Who woulda thunk it???? Last year, they moved their imaging unit to China. Way to create jobs here, Jeffy boy. And Obama.....

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#19 May 15, 2013
First Amendment wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't taxing churches violate the separation of church and state? Think about it for a while.
The exception is an IRS regulation not a constitutional one. As I understand it the IRS is it's own entity, supposedly separate from the governing body. There is no guarantee they are exempt form taxes, just that they may worship as they choose.
Back On Topic

United States

#20 May 15, 2013
DondoDork wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you remember the United Way scandal a few years ago? Do you remember the FEMA scandal after Katrina hit? I'm ok with charities that make less than 10 percent being tax exempt but not for the ones that pay their execs hundreds of thousands of dollars. I'm OK with hospitals being exempt as long as they also do charitable operations on American citizens. I'm even ok with Churches being exempt as long as they also have a soup kitchen and offer clothing and blankets for low income or homeless people. What I'm not ok with is these churches getting tithings off the congregation and the Pastor/Preacher driving a brand new Lexus/Cadillac while the people of the church can barely pay their electric bill.
So, what do you think about the IRS targeting Conservative groups for their political beliefs?

“frequently laughing”

Level 8

Since: Apr 09

Hotel California

#21 May 15, 2013
From not form, sorry.

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