Why is the West so supportive of Isra...

Why is the West so supportive of Israel? (Unfairly)

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African_shadows

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Kenya, E.Africa.

#1 Nov 28, 2012
They side unfairly with Israel even when Israel grabs Palestine land and builds on them even against international law. The Gaza blockade is illegal and I wonder why the US and the west won't condemn it. Israel wants her neighbours to recognize their right to exist and the statehood but denies the Palestinians the same. Somebody please clarify this for me. Are the Palestinians not humans? Don't they have a right to a sovereign state? Or is Hamas the reason why everybody forgets the Palestinians. Why is America so supportive of Israel when they have the ability to make the two sides have a peaceful compromise rather than take one side in the conflict?
Rupee Peso

Huntington, NY

#2 Nov 28, 2012
African_shadows wrote:
They side unfairly with Israel even when Israel grabs Palestine land and builds on them even against international law. The Gaza blockade is illegal and I wonder why the US and the west won't condemn it. Israel wants her neighbours to recognize their right to exist and the statehood but denies the Palestinians the same. Somebody please clarify this for me. Are the Palestinians not humans? Don't they have a right to a sovereign state? Or is Hamas the reason why everybody forgets the Palestinians. Why is America so supportive of Israel when they have the ability to make the two sides have a peaceful compromise rather than take one side in the conflict?
Money.

African_shadows

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Kenya, E.Africa.

#3 Nov 28, 2012
Care to elaborate?
Rupee Peso wrote:
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Money.
Rupee Peso

Huntington, NY

#4 Nov 28, 2012
African_shadows wrote:
Care to elaborate?<quoted text>
No.

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#5 Nov 28, 2012
Money.

Faith.

And they need an ally in that theater.

There's a great number of folks in the US that are tired of supporting Israel and understand what you are speaking about. There's a greater number that have no idea what you are talking about and would never think of cutting off our faith based friends.

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#6 Nov 28, 2012
this doesn't make sense to me but this is what popped in my head:

you always want someone in the "in-zone"

65007noogard

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Since: Jun 12

Down on the bayou

#7 Nov 28, 2012
African_shadows wrote:
They side unfairly with Israel even when Israel grabs Palestine land and builds on them even against international law. The Gaza blockade is illegal and I wonder why the US and the west won't condemn it. Israel wants her neighbours to recognize their right to exist and the statehood but denies the Palestinians the same. Somebody please clarify this for me. Are the Palestinians not humans? Don't they have a right to a sovereign state? Or is Hamas the reason why everybody forgets the Palestinians. Why is America so supportive of Israel when they have the ability to make the two sides have a peaceful compromise rather than take one side in the conflict?
Palestinian land? It was all Jewish land about 2,000 years ago, before being taken by the Romans.

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#8 Nov 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
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Palestinian land? It was all Jewish land about 2,000 years ago, before being taken by the Romans.
It's hard really to judge who deserves what. 400 years ago, this nation was all Indian lands...

The irony is that two of the most devout populations in the world can't figure out how to live peacefully together. It's a danged shame.
Krypteia

Lewes, UK

#9 Nov 28, 2012
EraserX wrote:
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It's hard really to judge who deserves what. 400 years ago, this nation was all Indian lands...
The irony is that two of the most devout populations in the world can't figure out how to live peacefully together. It's a danged shame.
If i had to live in the Middle East i know which country i would choose and so would most normal free thinking people with half a brain cell, and it wouldn't be islamic.

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#10 Nov 28, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>If i had to live in the Middle East i know which country i would choose and so would most normal free thinking people with half a brain cell, and it wouldn't be islamic.
I'd not like to make that choice.
Krypteia

Lewes, UK

#11 Nov 28, 2012
EraserX wrote:
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I'd not like to make that choice.
On the question why is the west so supportive of Israel, that could be turned round why are all muslim countries in support of Palestine..
Lets set this straight Israel has been Jewish from biblical times,islam is a cult made up in the 6th century by a deranged mad man,don't forget the home of that cult Saudi Arabia was pagan and Jews lived there before the muslim cult was invented.
If for arguement sake your neighbour started to punch you in the face now and again how long should you wait before you knocked his teeth down his throat?,the answer would be straight away let alone waiting after alot of attacks.

The thing is if you suddenly had to leave the comfort of the USA and made to choose it wouldn't be hard to choose really would it.

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Since: Nov 10

Powellton WV

#12 Nov 28, 2012
65007noogard wrote:
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Palestinian land? It was all Jewish land about 2,000 years ago, before being taken by the Romans.
And that's the point.
There has never been a time in recorded
history that there has not been fighting
in the middle east.
Who can tell which ppl are "in the right."

If we go by history the strongest ppl are
the ones who end up "owning the land."

Personally I don't understand Why they fight.
And I feel bad for Palestinian ppl sometimes. They
fight w/rocks against tanks. However I do
know how much damage they have done w/ car and
suicide bombs.

But....Israel Is our ally. And we try to
stand behind our allies.
In other words....I have No Idea:) lol

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#13 Nov 28, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>On the question why is the west so supportive of Israel, that could be turned round why are all muslim countries in support of Palestine..
Lets set this straight Israel has been Jewish from biblical times,islam is a cult made up in the 6th century by a deranged mad man,don't forget the home of that cult Saudi Arabia was pagan and Jews lived there before the muslim cult was invented.
If for arguement sake your neighbour started to punch you in the face now and again how long should you wait before you knocked his teeth down his throat?,the answer would be straight away let alone waiting after alot of attacks.
The thing is if you suddenly had to leave the comfort of the USA and made to choose it wouldn't be hard to choose really would it.
I see absolutely no difference between the islamic cult and the christian one. And, again, these holy people can't manage to figure out how to get along. It's crazy. Neither side deserves the disputed area.

Actually, yes, it would. As a male, I'd be pretty set in an islamic country. Were I a woman it'd be no question though.
Krypteia

Lewes, UK

#14 Nov 28, 2012
arctic wrote:
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And that's the point.
There has never been a time in recorded
history that there has not been fighting
in the middle east.
Who can tell which ppl are "in the right."
If we go by history the strongest ppl are
the ones who end up "owning the land."
Personally I don't understand Why they fight.
And I feel bad for Palestinian ppl sometimes. They
fight w/rocks against tanks. However I do
know how much damage they have done w/ car and
suicide bombs.
But....Israel Is our ally. And we try to
stand behind our allies.
In other words....I have No Idea:) lol
They fight with rocks?,they have been firing rockets into Israel nearly on a daily basis,before Israel retaliated,and alot of the rockets are coming from Iran,and to top it they fire them from civilian areas and so on and they don't care where they land.

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#15 Nov 28, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>They fight with rocks?,they have been firing rockets into Israel nearly on a daily basis,before Israel retaliated,and alot of the rockets are coming from Iran,and to top it they fire them from civilian areas and so on and they don't care where they land.
If you were being starved out of your own country you'd probably fight, too.

Both sides have legitimate issues. No question. Neither side is really worthy of much compassion though. It's kind of an embarrassment - some of the worst humanity has to offer.
Krypteia

Lewes, UK

#16 Nov 28, 2012
EraserX wrote:
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I see absolutely no difference between the islamic cult and the christian one. And, again, these holy people can't manage to figure out how to get along. It's crazy. Neither side deserves the disputed area.
Actually, yes, it would. As a male, I'd be pretty set in an islamic country. Were I a woman it'd be no question though.
I'm no practicing christian but there is a very big difference,grant you there is the odd oddball but attitude,freedom of expression and a womens rights prevail in the west.
You stateted no side deserves the disputed area,so who does?it has to be governed but by whom?
Hoosier Hillbilly

Churubusco, IN

#17 Nov 28, 2012
Before our government takes one damn dime away from any of us they first must stop all foreign aid. Starting with Isreal and the 8 Million they get daily and why and how they get it.
Google what we got going out of this country alone each year and we've solved the national debt.
How dare our own gov. stick money in foreigners pockets and not continue to provide medicare for us.
What's wrong with gov. taking a cut in salary like the rest of the Americans have had too. And why aren't their retirements,health care the same as ours- I personally don't see where any of them are any better than me or you.
Krypteia

Lewes, UK

#19 Nov 28, 2012
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
Before our government takes one damn dime away from any of us they first must stop all foreign aid. Starting with Isreal and the 8 Million they get daily and why and how they get it.
Google what we got going out of this country alone each year and we've solved the national debt.
How dare our own gov. stick money in foreigners pockets and not continue to provide medicare for us.
What's wrong with gov. taking a cut in salary like the rest of the Americans have had too. And why aren't their retirements,health care the same as ours- I personally don't see where any of them are any better than me or you.
Thing is your talking about politicians and all of them live on a different planet to the rest of us,when it comes to money and self preservation and what the country can do for them rather than the other way round their snouts are firmly in the trough.
Hoosier Hillbilly

Churubusco, IN

#20 Nov 28, 2012
I couldn't have said it better Krypteia.

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Right here under my thumb

#22 Nov 28, 2012
Unless you're willing to start in your own backyard, you have no room to talk about debt, waste and money.

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