"WE" are procrastinating 'ourselves' into oblivion

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“*Merry Christmas*”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#1 Aug 9, 2013
The Government Doesn’t Need to Know More About What We Are Doing. We Need to Know More About What the Government is Doing.
www.ronpaul.com/2013-06-09/ron-paul-the-gover...

I have a very strong bias toward the idea that the government is horrible in everything it does. I am also fully aware of confirmation bias. We all have this bias. Confirmation bias is looking for things in the real world that prove my beliefs and tending to ignore the things that don’t work with my beliefs. Knowing this, it must be very possible that I am mistaken. Government must work somewhere. Where? When? Have I not been looking in the right places? Have I restricted myself to the only type of news that I want to hear?

I am writing this to challenge my own beliefs. I challenge anyone reading this to tell me something that the federal government does well. I am open to hearing anecdotal evidence, personal theories, or other news articles.

I have searched my life for where I have got government help and there are a few things that I found where government did help me. Those things done by past governments have created equilibrium. The Constitution, bill of rights and other permanent declarations.

I challenge anyone to give me an example of something that the government does well. Is there anywhere in government where there are only good outcomes, rather than corruption and inefficiency?

The government makes epic decisions; banks that make bad decisions get bailed out; They invade countries under false pretenses and kill hundreds of thousands of people; they spends trillions more than they take in? When we double the amount of spending on “education” yet there are no observable gains made in math, writing and reading skills? If this is not chaos, what is?

Good Government, Bad Government
Use the Ben Franklin close
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MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#2 Aug 9, 2013
Hoosier Hillbilly wrote:
The Government DoesnÂ’t Need to Know More About What We Are Doing. We Need to Know More About What the Government is Doing.
www.ronpaul.com/2013-06-09/ron-paul-the-gover...

I have a very strong bias toward the idea that the government is horrible in everything it does. I am also fully aware of confirmation bias. We all have this bias. Confirmation bias is looking for things in the real world that prove my beliefs and tending to ignore the things that donÂ’t work with my beliefs. Knowing this, it must be very possible that I am mistaken. Government must work somewhere. Where? When? Have I not been looking in the right places? Have I restricted myself to the only type of news that I want to hear?

I am writing this to challenge my own beliefs. I challenge anyone reading this to tell me something that the federal government does well. I am open to hearing anecdotal evidence, personal theories, or other news articles.

I have searched my life for where I have got government help and there are a few things that I found where government did help me. Those things done by past governments have created equilibrium. The Constitution, bill of rights and other permanent declarations.

I challenge anyone to give me an example of something that the government does well. Is there anywhere in government where there are only good outcomes, rather than corruption and inefficiency?

The government makes epic decisions; banks that make bad decisions get bailed out; They invade countries under false pretenses and kill hundreds of thousands of people; they spends trillions more than they take in? When we double the amount of spending on “education” yet there are no observable gains made in math, writing and reading skills? If this is not chaos, what is?

Good Government, Bad Government
Use the Ben Franklin close
_______+__
Silly kid, the government does an excellent job. They have us right where they want us. Do you actually think all of their doing is failed decision? No, it's decision that's been thought out to near perfect precision. The only factor that can change an outcome is the human factor. But even then, it still can be judged about it future actions, based on statistics, current and past emotions on events and history.

History is said to repeat itself. But, that's not entirely true. Some empires have failed, and never came back, meaning it can't be repeated.

When you start thinking that the government isn't bad at what it does, but does things to a near perfect precision, then you might have some doors opened for you. Happy hunting!:)

“I was a Grim Reaper”

Level 8

Since: Apr 07

But now I take antidepressants

#3 Aug 9, 2013
Let me think about this, and get back to you sometime next week.......
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#4 Aug 9, 2013
Billy R wrote:
Let me think about this, and get back to you sometime next week.......
If it takes you a week to think about this, I have little hope for a decent reply.

“100% Princess”

Level 8

Since: Jan 07

and totally harmless

#5 Aug 9, 2013
I was going to click on those links earlier, but I thought I'd just wait a while......

“I was a Grim Reaper”

Level 8

Since: Apr 07

But now I take antidepressants

#6 Aug 9, 2013
MrThang wrote:
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If it takes you a week to think about this, I have little hope for a decent reply.
If you find a ladder, and jump real high, you might just catch the joke that went flying over your head.....

“I was a Grim Reaper”

Level 8

Since: Apr 07

But now I take antidepressants

#7 Aug 9, 2013
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
I was going to click on those links earlier, but I thought I'd just wait a while......
Why rush things? There's plenty of time.
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#8 Aug 9, 2013
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>If you find a ladder, and jump real high, you might just catch the joke that went flying over your head.....
If I find a ladder, why would I need to jump? Is this another failed "joked"?

Oh oh, it's a specific height ladder huh? You're use to grabbing ladders to short huh?

“100% Princess”

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#9 Aug 9, 2013
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>Why rush things? There's plenty of time.
Those would be my thoughts exactly, if I was going to spend time thinking about it......

“100% Princess”

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Since: Jan 07

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#10 Aug 9, 2013
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>If you find a ladder, and jump real high, you might just catch the joke that went flying over your head.....
It was a pretty decent reply, but to make it more decent, maybe the reply should be wearing a burka.....

“I was a Grim Reaper”

Level 8

Since: Apr 07

But now I take antidepressants

#11 Aug 9, 2013
MrThang wrote:
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If I find a ladder, why would I need to jump? Is this another failed "joked"?
Oh oh, it's a specific height ladder huh? You're use to grabbing ladders to short huh?
Because that joke went so far over your head that merely standing on a ladder wouldn't be enough....That would be "Too" short, btw. You need to adjust the settings on your spell check, program, if you need help with that just let me know.....

“I was a Grim Reaper”

Level 8

Since: Apr 07

But now I take antidepressants

#12 Aug 9, 2013
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
<quoted text>Those would be my thoughts exactly, if I was going to spend time thinking about it......
Maybe later...
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#13 Aug 9, 2013
Billy R wrote:
<quoted text>Because that joke went so far over your head that merely standing on a ladder wouldn't be enough....That would be "Too" short, btw. You need to adjust the settings on your spell check, program, if you need help with that just let me know.....
Nah, don't need any adjustments. It was the fault of my own. I really don't pay enough attention in posting. It's not that important to me.

Anyhow, back to your theory. If I jump and "might" can catch the joke as you said previously, that would suggest it's not "too" far over my head. The average person can only jump a couple feet flat footed. So therefore no matter what ladder I find it's always going to "might" be out of reach. So the joke has a variable height since you didn't specify a fixed height. But now upon this new knowledge of the obvious inadequate ladder, I wouldn't go look for a ladder.;)

Btw, you shouldn't have put a comma behind spell check and program. Althought it's legitimate, it makes you look silly. It was pointless.

“100% Princess”

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Since: Jan 07

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#14 Aug 9, 2013
MrThang wrote:
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Nah, don't need any adjustments. It was the fault of my own. I really don't pay enough attention in posting. It's not that important to me.
Anyhow, back to your theory. If I jump and "might" can catch the joke as you said previously, that would suggest it's not "too" far over my head. The average person can only jump a couple feet flat footed. So therefore no matter what ladder I find it's always going to "might" be out of reach. So the joke has a variable height since you didn't specify a fixed height. But now upon this new knowledge of the obvious inadequate ladder, I wouldn't go look for a ladder.;)
Btw, you shouldn't have put a comma behind spell check and program. Althought it's legitimate, it makes you look silly. It was pointless.
So, you think he should look illegitimate? Now THAT would be silly..... BTW, it's "Although".....
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#15 Aug 9, 2013
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
<quoted text>So, you think he should look illegitimate? Now THAT would be silly..... BTW, it's "Although".....
Excuse my typo, I did.

It wouldn't be incorrect to not use it, surely you're not that stupld or just reaching for something.

Just like your comma after the word so, it doesn't "have" to be there but can be. I really don't know how to break that down any simplier for you.

“100% Princess”

Level 8

Since: Jan 07

and totally harmless

#16 Aug 9, 2013
MrThang wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse my typo, I did.
It wouldn't be incorrect to not use it, surely you're not that stupld or just reaching for something.
Just like your comma after the word so, it doesn't "have" to be there but can be. I really don't know how to break that down any simplier for you.
What is this "simplier" of which you speak?

And I'd point out your misspelling "stupld" but that might just be considered stupid.....
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#17 Aug 9, 2013
Hitesrunprincess wrote:
<quoted text>What is this "simplier" of which you speak?

And I'd point out your misspelling "stupld" but that might just be considered stupid.....
The filter warns me when it's spelled out correctly. I guess the butthurt trolls reports the posts that make them look ignorant. Also the word L ame, i diot, and few other words gets me a warming sign too. The filters do differ from different places. I need to reset my cookies but haven't cared to yet. It's not hard hitting l instead of i. If the readers can't figure it out, they aren't worth conversing with anyhow.

Simpler* better? Excuse my typos, I didn't know you was so protective over dude, nor so petty over typos.

When a person can only pick at simple typos, it means they can't refute your logic. It's a common tactic by the low brow. I would proof read, but if I did that, you wouldn't have had nothing to talk about! Lmfao! So therefore I think you owe me a thank you. Because that is what your whole reply was about, yes?
MrThang

Montréal, Canada

#18 Aug 9, 2013
Psst! I left you a typo to have something to reply too! You're welcome! You be sure to get my arse on it good, okay? Bahahaha!

“*Merry Christmas*”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#19 Aug 10, 2013
MrThang wrote:
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Silly kid, the government does an excellent job. They have us right where they want us. Do you actually think all of their doing is failed decision? No, it's decision that's been thought out to near perfect precision. Happy hunting!:)
It wasn't enough M69 associating 'me' with goats, now 'i' got people calling 'me' one>!<.

What they are, why (or even if) they are needed, what, if anything, makes a government legitimate, what rights and freedoms it should protect and why, what form it should take and why, what the law is, and what duties citizens owe to a legitimate government, if any, and when it may be legitimately overthrown, if ever.
This one (( would not )) take a week for me to think about:

“*Merry Christmas*”

Level 8

Since: Nov 12

Greensburg, IN

#20 Aug 10, 2013
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