Do women belong on the front line?

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#170 Dec 8, 2012
Fish_sticks wrote:
<quoted text>The minute we stood up for our rights .... we lost our seat on the bus, lol.
Lol

Since: Aug 08

Buffalo, NY

#171 Dec 8, 2012
... joan of arc ...
harteman

New Baltimore, MI

#172 Dec 8, 2012
I'll say definitively no.
No matter how strong your discipline, nature can take over at any time.
When I was in the army I banged a female soldier in the foxhole I had dug earlier that day. The next day we screwed in my tent. That following morning when we had a gas attack drill, I rolled over, got my mask, put it on, and went back to sleep. This is why we can't have that in our military. If that was a real-life situation, lives may have been lost, security was definitely compromised. It was not my intention to happen, and just doing what we did was a major violation, but it happened regardless. It was illogical and it happened anyway.
Pussy is a POWERFUL thing. Guess what men and women do together? We make the sexy-time. We become attracted, in love, whatever, and it clouds judgement. No women, no temptations. We are soldiers, but we are human too, and nature can only be resisted sometimes. Sometimes is not enough, especially when it comes to mission objectives and the lives of soldiers.
This is the EXACT reason why this kind of shit can't happen. I'm living proof.

“Never summon "Anything" ....”

Level 7

Since: Feb 11

..... you can't banish, lol

#173 Dec 8, 2012
^^ you go girl ^^
harteman

New Baltimore, MI

#174 Dec 8, 2012
Also, what happens if a woman and I fall in love on the front lines? What is more powerful, love or duty? For me it would be love, to be frank. That is why I could not have that temptation around me out on the front lines. I can tell you whatever, but when the shit hits the fan, what are you thinking about now? The objective and your fellow soldiers, or your love?

For the sake of argument, lets say my mind is on the task at hand, and not my love. Where are my thoughts and moral if she gets ripped in half? I'm not going to be battle-ready, I can assure you of that. It is not a good idea.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#175 Dec 8, 2012
Tell ya what. Synchronize a battalion of women, send them in with their monthly visitor, and see what happens to the enemy.

“Never summon "Anything" ....”

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Since: Feb 11

..... you can't banish, lol

#176 Dec 8, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
Tell ya what. Synchronize a battalion of women, send them in with their monthly visitor, and see what happens to the enemy.
Bloody hell to pay, lol.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#177 Dec 8, 2012
Fish_sticks wrote:
<quoted text>Bloody hell to pay, lol.
No pun intended

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Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#178 Dec 9, 2012
harteman wrote:
I'll say definitively no.
No matter how strong your discipline, nature can take over at any time.
When I was in the army I banged a female soldier in the foxhole I had dug earlier that day. The next day we screwed in my tent. That following morning when we had a gas attack drill, I rolled over, got my mask, put it on, and went back to sleep. This is why we can't have that in our military. If that was a real-life situation, lives may have been lost, security was definitely compromised. It was not my intention to happen, and just doing what we did was a major violation, but it happened regardless. It was illogical and it happened anyway.
[[[Pussy is a POWERFUL thing.]]]] Guess what men and women do together? We make the sexy-time. We become attracted, in love, whatever, and it clouds judgement. No women, no temptations. We are soldiers, but we are human too, and nature can only be resisted sometimes. Sometimes is not enough, especially when it comes to mission objectives and the lives of soldiers.
This is the EXACT reason why this kind of shit can't happen. I'm living proof.
ROTFLOL Finally! One of you, at least, figured it out.
[[[ We have known this for centuries ;~)]]]

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Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#180 Dec 9, 2012
We had a few military personnel training along side us, wanted to brush up on technique. The older gentlemen were exactly that, gentlemen and definately tough. The other two tried to get "handy." In my years of "practicing" with men that had never happened, only they were asked not to return.

“I know where you are,”

Level 8

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#181 Dec 10, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Do us a favor.... Get a blank sheet of paper and pencil.... Got 'em?Good. Now,lay the paper flat on a table. Take the pencil and put a real small dark dot in the middle of the pater...... Put the pencil down,you're done with it. Now pick up the paper. See the little dark spot? THAT is what you know about the military,war,and anything related to it. The REST of the paper is what we veterans who have served in war and peace/training for war know about the subject. Put your oversized case of femenism on the back burner and face facts that while women can CAPABLY do the same jobs men can do 95% of the time there are things you just can't. You can use rhetoric and what if tales all you want,it won't change what your physiology is.
Is that right, John Wayne? Exactly how many drones did they have in service when you charged up San Juan hill with Teddy Roosevelt? Try to stay with me - with an emphasis on "try." Truth be told, there are women out there that can and will out-perform men - even in a combat setting. Are there a sh*tload? Not even I will admit to that - but they do exist. My point doesn't involve "feminism," on the contray - just a practical observance. I know and am related to a few female soldiers - not a lot - but a few. All of them can field strip an HK416 faster than you can log in on Topix.

Lastly, it's been said before - veterans don't slam veterans. After the pencil point is made, the paper is still blank - knowing nothing about nothing is still nothing.

Try a different analogy - this one failed miserably.

Thank you for your cyber-service.

“....VETS”

Level 9

Since: Jan 08

WELCOME HOME

#182 Dec 10, 2012
did you know that the saying BAM is forbidden to be expressed in the Marine Corps ..

why because it may offend a woman Marine , a word one word , wonder what a very aggressive enemy will do ???

hey hey OKI.... BAM BAM went my double barrel

“Voters elect Big Bird”

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Dump American Eagle

#183 Dec 10, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that right, John Wayne? Exactly how many drones did they have in service when you charged up San Juan hill with Teddy Roosevelt? Try to stay with me - with an emphasis on "try." Truth be told, there are women out there that can and will out-perform men - even in a combat setting. Are there a sh*tload? Not even I will admit to that - but they do exist. My point doesn't involve "feminism," on the contray - just a practical observance. I know and am related to a few female soldiers - not a lot - but a few. All of them can field strip an HK416 faster than you can log in on Topix.
Lastly, it's been said before - veterans don't slam veterans. After the pencil point is made, the paper is still blank - knowing nothing about nothing is still nothing.
Try a different analogy - this one failed miserably.
Thank you for your cyber-service.
Flying a drone,delivering supplies in a relatively secure rear area or doing PM on any kind of equipment is a far cry from frontline combat. Close and personal combat,where a possibility of hand to hand combat exists. Or you have to be able to hurl a grenade just a leeeetle farther than your enemy. Then once the fighting is done,ruck up and CHASE the SOBs up a mountain side for a couple days. But if you still wanna think women can do it,go for it. We'll both have to be satisfied with our own opinions and hope the issue is never really put to the test.
Hoosier Hillbilly

Richmond, IN

#184 Dec 10, 2012
okimar your right on-the ones that are commenting on here have no idea-I'd love a chance to show'm but 'i'm too old now.
#There might be 1 out of a thousand, but 'i' still want her in the foxhole with someone else!

“I know where you are,”

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Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#185 Dec 10, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Flying a drone,delivering supplies in a relatively secure rear area or doing PM on any kind of equipment is a far cry from frontline combat. Close and personal combat,where a possibility of hand to hand combat exists. Or you have to be able to hurl a grenade just a leeeetle farther than your enemy. Then once the fighting is done,ruck up and CHASE the SOBs up a mountain side for a couple days. But if you still wanna think women can do it,go for it. We'll both have to be satisfied with our own opinions and hope the issue is never really put to the test.
Ooooo!!! Close and personal combat? Just like in the movie "The Alamo" with John Wayne?

When was the last time a US soldier was killed in close combat?

When was the last time a US soldier lost an arm or a leg to a bayonette attack?

That is my point. The face of modern warefare has changed - a lot. And it is changing faster than technology can keep up. The enemy is no longer a Japanese soldier with a bayonette on the end of his Chinese-made rifle. It's a Taliban rebel driving a boatload of manure in the trunk of a Yugo. Even ST6 landed within 200 yeards of Bin Laden's home - not much of a run up the side of a mountain.

Technology is paving the way so close combat is a thing of the past. Sure the soldier has to be in physically great shape - no doubt. But the days of seeing the whites in their eyes is over.

“Geaux Tigers!”

Level 9

Since: Jun 12

Down on the bayou

#186 Dec 10, 2012
Some women do, some women don't; just as some men do, and some men don't.
ronone

Pittsburgh, PA

#187 Dec 10, 2012
youtube.com/watch... ……Women want consideration of equality of rights then the Front line in battle they?
phaines

Big Bear Lake, CA

#188 Dec 10, 2012
that question would be better posed on a site that milatary men post on ..not a bunch of slugs that have nothing better to do than hang out on the net and troll ... :/

“....VETS”

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Since: Jan 08

WELCOME HOME

#189 Dec 10, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ooooo!!! Close and personal combat? Just like in the movie "The Alamo" with John Wayne?
When was the last time a US soldier was killed in close combat?
When was the last time a US soldier lost an arm or a leg to a bayonette attack?
That is my point. The face of modern warefare has changed - a lot. And it is changing faster than technology can keep up. The enemy is no longer a Japanese soldier with a bayonette on the end of his Chinese-made rifle. It's a Taliban rebel driving a boatload of manure in the trunk of a Yugo. Even ST6 landed within 200 yeards of Bin Laden's home - not much of a run up the side of a mountain.
Technology is paving the way so close combat is a thing of the past. Sure the soldier has to be in physically great shape - no doubt. But the days of seeing the whites in their eyes is over.
want to re-think , that style of combat is usually covert

but Black Hawk down comes to mind ,,,,,,,,,,

Shoshana Johnson survived gunshot wounds to both legs and 22 days as a prisoner of war in Iraq. Life wasn't so easy when she came home, either.

just saying

“I know where you are,”

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Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#190 Dec 10, 2012
phaines wrote:
that question would be better posed on a site that milatary men post on ..not a bunch of slugs that have nothing better to do than hang out on the net and troll ...:/
Oh yeah, like this one?

www.gaymilitarynation.com/forums

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