Who is the legitimate Sultan of Sulu?

[Stryder73]

I haven't a clue, but I bet he attends every Star Trek convention. ;)

[wyoming]

Rily Percaval Osaba Hindershot III

[HB Local]

Well, what color sheets does he wear?

[Datu Maas]

For me the RIGHTS HEIRS to the Sulu THRONE are;

1. Prince Datu Muedzullail-Kiram ibni Sultan Mahakuttah-Kiram & Sultan Fuad A.Kiram (*FROM THe KIRAM FAMILIES),

2. Paramount Sultan Ibrahim Bahjin & the son's of Sultan Aguimuddin-Abidin @ Sultan Pitico (*FROM the SHAKIRAULLAH FAMILIES), And,

3. HRH. Raja Bongsu-II ibni Sultan Aliuddin Haddis Pabila (*froM tHE maharajah adinda/Arinda FAMILIES).

But if refer to the "Sulu Protocol System" which was stated by Cesar Adib Majul in his book's Muslims in the Philippines, by his reference to the old Sulu text Protocol System, from the 4 characteristic "ROTATION" to the Sulu throne, Nowadays the throne should belongs to the "Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families", NOT to Kiram or Shakiraullah Families anymore.

[Creamed Fetus on Toast]

Is this a soccer question or an I Dream of Jeannie question?

[Leslie Richards]

I thought it said sultan of swing....

[Mr Giblets]

His Highness the Tizer of Lucozade.

[yam]

pls read this for your information

http://royalsulu.com/

[othman]

Creamed Fetus on Toast wrote:

Is this a soccer question or an I Dream of Jeannie question?

As a Suluk Sabahan(Tausug), I should say none of the above.

I know nothing about any of them, but I hear rumours that many of my families are also relatives of the Sultan of Sulu that have the same lineage as those mentioned.

It cannot be determined by a simple vote, especially one that has "none" as an option.

It can easily be determined via DNA tests that can be traced with the Sultan of Brunei. After all, the Sultanate of Brunei is also related to the Sultanate of Sulu.

[Dr Abdul RAziq Abdullah]

There is no Sultan of Sulu anymore. They are all crooks who have invented this title just to be primadonna and take advantage of a very delicate stage of the Malaysian political scenario. All these people should be put to jail and all their territorial claims over the land of Sabah and North Borneo totally dismissed as just pure non sense of dreamers without any historic value. At this point, anyone can claim to be the Sultan of Sulu or even the son of Sandakan, the tiger of Malaysia, who was the legendary creation of the Italian writer of piracy adventures named Emilio Salgari. But Sabah is not a fantasy created by Emilio Salgari but it is part of the Malaysian nation. As such, all these dreamers should at once stop all this fantastication over dreams. If they are Malaysian then they should be jailed for treason and undermining the unity of Malaysia. If the are of Philippine origins then they should immediately expelled from the country with immediate effect and thei future entry denied for their entire life. In the worst scenario, they should be detained for life at the pleasure of the King of Malaysia and the People of Malaysia without any possibility of parole. And the MPs and Institutional authorities will not be distracted but such weird people with hidden agenda in their mind. Malaysia is going through a critical period of transformation and democratization requiring fully committed and focused political forces. Therefore, any claims about Sulu should be totally dismissed off as illegittimate, uncalled for and unwanted and the authors of such claims put away and considered disruptor of public order and political destabilizers.

[Michael Woodword]

Finally someone with clear mind and courage of speaking his mond out. It is true that the Sultanate of Sulu in not in existence. It is nowadays just more like a tribal title which is passed down to generations more with a folkloristic value and it does not carry any historic, political or executive value. More like the King of the Roms in Europe, which is just more like a traditional carried forward tradition for the pleasure of maintaining some culture.
The Sultan of Sulu was more like a pirate ad not even of Philippino origins. he descended from some Arab traders which liked to seal the Borneo Sea to expand their commerce.
Plus there is no value nowadays to claim territorial ownership over Borneo or North Borneo as there is not even a single documentation or official paper which can substantiate any such claims.
And if there is any such paper, which it is in essence a paradox and in veritas desputandium considered a fake, it is however overrided by the political referendum which united Sabha to the Federal Government of Malaysia.
By the International Law, omce the citizen of Sabah carry Malaysian Passport, Sabah is Malaysia and Malaysia is Sabah.

Does the Sultan of Sulu carries a Sulu Passport? Is the so called Sultanata Of Sulu recognized bu the UN or the World Tribunal? Does the Sultanate of Sulu has any official role in the Internationl political scenario? Does the Sultanate of Sulu enjoy any political recognizion at International diplomatic level?

The answer to allthe above quations is just NO. Therefore for people to clams such descendance is just pure nonsense or, maybe, an hilarious story which can anyway find a good spot of enteratinment at some teh tarik joints in donggongon or likas areas.

Maybe, the local folkloristic comedy theathratical group SENARIO may find it a nice topic for some enteraining gags to put on a tv-show.

[aaron mas]

They should just drop their claim on Sabah. They should have done that when Malaysia was being formed in the 60s and the people of North Borneo/Sabah were given a referendum on the formation of Malaysia. Whoever the 'Sultan' is, it's just too late now, please just concerntrate on Mindanao, 'Sultans'.

[Alibaba]

Darn, now I got that song in my head

Sultans of Swing

(..and harry doesnt mind, if he doesnt, make the scene)

[Concerned Viewer]

I have no idea..sultan???

[Malaysian reader]

Let me repeat there is no more existence of Sultanate Sulu reign. They all claim to be Sultan or some self claim 'Dato seri' is trying to cheat people. Issuing fake/non legalised birth cert to the people of philiphines who over stayed in sabah is another way of them cheating and earning people hardwork money. All the self claimed 'Sultan's' (no matter from which family is non of our malaysian people business). We proudly and only recognized our state sultan's who done more good things to our malaysian people. All self claimed kin to sultan sulu or dato seri should be jailed under Malaysian ISA law for obstructing/cheating and threatening peace in our country of Malaysia.

[Pakar Sejarah Sulu]

The Real Sultan is a direct descendant of a Famous 15th Century Pirate called Raja Lanun Sulu. But we got to check his DNA to make sure he has Pirates Virus

[MAJIK-WIZIRED]

http://youtube.com/watch...
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SULTANS OF SWING--DIRE STRAITS
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KAaz

[Maria Mauldaur]

put your camel to bed, and you can be my shiek

[Shankar]

I am the real one. Dad was an ex - pirate.

[Ali Baba]

my tent maker omar disagrees