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I gotta run. We'll pick this back up later.

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Well stop arguing with me about it, then and calling me a simpleton, when I clearly wasn't being a simpleton.
I don't think he was calling you a simpleton. I think he was referring to Ferretman.

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#341
Apr 26, 2013
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/re...
Department of Homeland Security buying a great deal of ammuntion, why do they get more than the Army per person and what are they really doing with it all? Are these hollow point or FMJ? There are varying reports and no transparency. The Social Security Administation is also buying ammo, why does SSA need so much or any ammo?

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Giving 30 million people free and subsidized healthcare isn't going to make things less expensive. If it did they wouldn't have had to raise taxes and raid the Medicare trust fund to pay for Obamacare.
What to do about it? I generally think grown adults should care for them-self, unless they are disabled. Children, I think should be provided with medicaid.
However, if something had to be done, why not go after pharma? Why do we pay 3 times what folks in Canada and Germany do for drugs? Why don't you start there. That would be low hanging fruit and something virtually every person in America who doesn't work for the pharmaceutical industry would applaud, including me. I would have loved Obama if he had the balls and the integrity to do what is best for Americans, all of us.
Maybe do that, save a shyte load of money, and see how you can use that money to help people who need it.
It is so good congress wants exempted from Obama care

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Apr 26, 2013
 
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Department of Homeland Security buying a great deal of ammuntion, why do they get more than the Army per person and what are they really doing with it all? Are these hollow point or FMJ? There are varying reports and no transparency. The Social Security Administation is also buying ammo, why does SSA need so much or any ammo?
They want an armed government not an armed people

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My guess is the Cartoon Network, for whatever they're paying you, are getting ripped off.
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#347
Apr 27, 2013
 
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I don't think he was calling you a simpleton. I think he was referring to Ferretman.
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I think you know that in casual conversation the term is shortened frequently to just "democracy" for convenience and simplicity. But then a real simpleton comes along and tries to sound brilliant by calling out somebody else for speaking colloquially. But fails.
Colloquially means informally. His panties got in a twists for my "calling out" that America's voice doesn't matter cause this isn't a democracy and he called me a real simpleton.

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#348
Apr 27, 2013
 
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Colloquially means informally. His panties got in a twists for my "calling out" that America's voice doesn't matter cause this isn't a democracy and he called me a real simpleton.
"Lighten up, Francis"

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Let's be realistic here.
The average joe shmoe, Y-Gen, "healthy" adult isn't going to carry health insurance if it's not mandatory. Why carry something that you're not legally bound to carry?
So just buy it for him? Think he'll ever even try to buy it if he's already getting it for free?
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<quoted text>And what about the hard-working people that need health insurance but just don't make enough to afford it?
Focus on making it more affordable. Hard concept, rite? Things like I said regarding prescription drugs…. Why do we just pay so much… it’s like a vampire on our economy … and it’s provides not return …
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You just don't know how much you need health insurance until you have a heart attack. Making health insurance affordable to everyone is not a bad thing. At the very least it keeps hospitals in business in your area and mine.
Trust me on this one - I know.
I have no problem with requiring health insurance … I have a problem with just having other people pay for other people’s health insurance and doing absolutely nothing to address the root cause of why healthcare costs so much in this country. This entire thing was the democrat’s baby … they could have done anything they wanted.

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Trust me - Bush was a saint compared to Walker. Like I said, police, firefighters and teachers all deserve a "golden parachute." Walker's no Republican - most of his own party dispises the guy. The only reason he won the election and the recall is that Barrett is more clueless. Walker hasn't a clue as to what manufacturing is, let alone what an actual job is.
Want to hear the latest?
Gov. Scott Walker's proposed income tax cut is likely too small to help individual taxpayers or the Wisconsin economy but could be large enough to harm the state's future fiscal soundness, according to experts reacting Thursday to the governor's 2013-15 budget.
The two-year spending plan calls for a state income tax cut averaging $106 for a family of four earning $80,000 a year. That's about $2 per week.
For low-income taxpayers, the cut is even more miserly: An estimated $2 a year for those earning less than $21,000, according to an analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy done for the Wisconsin Budget Project. That analysis also showed the wealthiest taxpayers, those earning $374,000 or more, would see a cut of $285.
http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-p...
The guy has done virtually nothing that he campaigned for, let alone bring jobs back into the state.
He can’t control industry growth … you can only lay the foundation for growth and enact pro-growth policies.

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Apr 29, 2013
 
2nd Amendment 1, Obama ZERO
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Sublime1 wrote:
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He can’t control industry growth … you can only lay the foundation for growth and enact pro-growth policies.
Oh contraire mon frair...tax breaks for industries, tax free land leases, etc. Wisconsin used to be a manufacturing mecca of the Midwest. List of corporations to go belly up:

Jacobson-Textron
JI Case
Western Publishing
Danfoss Fluid Power
Oilgear
Koehring Excavators
Kearney & Trucker
Giddings & Lewis
Young Radiator
Chrysler - Kenosha Engine Plant
GM plant - Janesville

Just to name a few. There were 87 new plant closings and mass layoffs through Dec. 29, 2011 according to the Wisconsin State Department of Workforce Development, which tracks the data. There were 71 such events in 2010. Seems to me that if I can't blame Walker for these plant closings, then why the double standard with Obama and job growth/shrinkage?

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Uh Clem wrote:
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"Lighten up, Francis"
I assure you one can be perfectly clam when picking you apart

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#358
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Oh contraire mon frair...tax breaks for industries, tax free land leases, etc. Wisconsin used to be a manufacturing mecca of the Midwest. List of corporations to go belly up:
Jacobson-Textron
JI Case
Western Publishing
Danfoss Fluid Power
Oilgear
Koehring Excavators
Kearney & Trucker
Giddings & Lewis
Young Radiator
Chrysler - Kenosha Engine Plant
GM plant - Janesville
Just to name a few. There were 87 new plant closings and mass layoffs through Dec. 29, 2011 according to the Wisconsin State Department of Workforce Development, which tracks the data. There were 71 such events in 2010. Seems to me that if I can't blame Walker for these plant closings, then why the double standard with Obama and job growth/shrinkage?
So it's tax breaks and tax free land leases that drove these industries out? These poor businesses.

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So it's tax breaks and tax free land leases that drove these industries out? These poor businesses.
Not quite - remember I said "etc.?"

To the tune of tens of thousands of jobs - yeah, those poor worker...er, I mean businesses.

I'll give you an example. Ramos Arizpe, Mexico - a little town just south of Texas. At the Satillo engine plant, Chrysler builds their world class Hemi engine. Chrysler originally made the decision to build their engine plant there primarily because of tax-free land leases from the Mexican government. But that wasn't all. The Mexican governemnt also invested in the plant - ensuring public transportation and temporary housing for employees. They set up an education system for prospective employees. The misnomer of cheap labor was never part of the decision - primarily because of the skills required to run an engine line are so high. 7 years later and the Hemi is among the top ten best engines in the world - winning best engine twice by Car & Driver magazine. The plant's 6-sigma program is measured in mistakes per billion and not even the Germans can rival that. Investing in business is a business, not just loaning money - it's something the United States still hasn't learned since kicking Dr. Demming out almost 50 years ago.

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Not quite - remember I said "etc.?"
To the tune of tens of thousands of jobs - yeah, those poor worker...er, I mean businesses.
I'll give you an example. Ramos Arizpe, Mexico - a little town just south of Texas. At the Satillo engine plant, Chrysler builds their world class Hemi engine. Chrysler originally made the decision to build their engine plant there primarily because of tax-free land leases from the Mexican government. But that wasn't all. The Mexican governemnt also invested in the plant - ensuring public transportation and temporary housing for employees. They set up an education system for prospective employees. The misnomer of cheap labor was never part of the decision - primarily because of the skills required to run an engine line are so high. 7 years later and the Hemi is among the top ten best engines in the world - winning best engine twice by Car & Driver magazine. The plant's 6-sigma program is measured in mistakes per billion and not even the Germans can rival that. Investing in business is a business, not just loaning money - it's something the United States still hasn't learned since kicking Dr. Demming out almost 50 years ago.
Pay those same laborers the same amount of money that the UAW would demand and give them the workers “rights” that the UAW demand and that plant doesn’t even exist in Mexico.

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Pay those same laborers the same amount of money that the UAW would demand and give them the workers “rights” that the UAW demand and that plant doesn’t even exist in Mexico.
Bingo...

Actually, those Mexicans make really good money - and they don't pay any union dues.

They even get a "lights out," 15-minute siesta every afternoon. Compare that to a UAW electrician in Detroit who gets a paid 8-hour nap everyday.

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Bingo...
Actually, those Mexicans make really good money - and they don't pay any union dues.
They even get a "lights out," 15-minute siesta every afternoon. Compare that to a UAW electrician in Detroit who gets a paid 8-hour nap everyday.
You see that in the context of the private sector, but you don’t realize that public sector unions operate in the same exact manner, but in an environment that is even more ripe for abuse.

Walker was very smart to rein them in when he had the chance.

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Bingo...
Actually, those Mexicans make really good money - and they don't pay any union dues.
They even get a "lights out," 15-minute siesta every afternoon. Compare that to a UAW electrician in Detroit who gets a paid 8-hour nap everyday.
Thats right... BASH the Unions. THATS what cons do.

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You see that in the context of the private sector, but you don’t realize that public sector unions operate in the same exact manner, but in an environment that is even more ripe for abuse.
Walker was very smart to rein them in when he had the chance.
I think we touched on this before - you don't f*ck with firefighters, police or education - period.

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