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#1109 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Nice red herring, typical conservaturd tactic when they lack facts.
You learn that from Rmoney did you?
Since when do your adversaries here even care about facts?

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#1110 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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LMFGDAO!!!
Like Cato or the John Birch Society?
LMFGDAO...LMAO...hahahaha!!!
Thanks dude - you made my day!!!
You expected "fair & balanced" or "rational" from the gun/wing-nut bunch??!!

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#1111 Dec 18, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
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You expected "fair & balanced" or "rational" from the gun/wing-nut bunch??!!
I guess I'm always hoping for a breakthrough - it doesn't look good for today.

:o)

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#1112 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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What about a real link with verifiable data? You posted two individuals that happen to agree with you. Both anti-firearm nuts.
A real study will include methodology of the study, sample size and begin from a neutral position.
Desperate, I see you are. If we simply compare accidents and murders to justifiable homicides from firearms kept in homes, they far outnumber justifiable self-defense killings, even if you don't include suicides and all too many of those suicides are murder-suicides.

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#1113 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Clearly you know very little about firearms. Most aftermarket high capacity magazines have a tendency to jam.
You used the Colorado shooting magazine as an example. Guess what, it jammed. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477362/...
When you claim dumbest post you’ve seen you might want to be correct on a point or two. Epic failure on your part.
... so how long would you stand in front of someone using a high capacity aftermarket mag hoping it jammed ... what a dummy ... an epic dummy ... you win the dumbest post award again ... duh hey cynic don't bother duckin he's using one of them aftermarket high capacity mags it will jam sooner or later ... well most of them do ...

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#1114 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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If you saw the police practicing at the range you wouldn’t want them defending you either. I’m at the range at least once a week. Typical outing is around 500 rounds. Who would you rather have? Someone who can easily group tightly or someone who qualifies once or two annually with usually 50 rounds?
I used a range frequently when I lived in Atlanta which was also used by several police departments. Some of those cops were lucky to stay on paper at 12 feet.
At 12 feet with pistol I use a 3” target. Some of them couldn’t stay on a large silhouette. About 35” x 50”
I see the same thing. I only know of one cop who can out shoot me. He is the best I have ever seen. I keep 10 rounds in a 6 inch bull at 25 yards he does the same at 50 yards.

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#1115 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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I saw the initial reports they found it in the trunk. I’ve since read it was his primary weapon. But, you’re correct, chances are it didn’t meet the legal definition of assault weapon.
I will wait for the police report to be public. He could have used a .38 and done the same thing with no one else shooting back. His 2 automatic would have done the job without a mag change which only takes a second anyway. Why all the concern over what gun he used? All guns are assault weapons. Many a GI in WW2 lost the bet with a Brit that he could fire 10 rounds faster from his bolt action 303 the the Gi with his M1 :)

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#1116 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Just a very small technicality. Still, those weapons provided far more firepower than is rationally necessary for self defense and whether or not it legally falls just a little bit short of being an assault rifle is of no consolatiom to grieving family members. Is your argument so weak and convoluted that you have to resort to two bit (if even that) personal attacks? If there is one thing the NRA hates in its quest to put gun industry profits ahead of our safety, it is comparison statistics because they do not reveal what the NRA wants to hear. I am not in favor of a blanket ban on firearms, but nobody needs a high powered and/or assault weapon for legitimate home self defense.
What difference does it make what gun he used? The 2 pistol would do the same job without a mag change. He could have done it with a single action revolver. Easy to reload when no one is shooting back at you

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#1117 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>I used a range frequently when I lived in Atlanta which was also used by several police departments. Some of those cops were lucky to stay on paper at 12 feet.
Really? I lived right outside of Atlanta for 5 years - what is the name of that shooting range "in Atlanta" that you can share the lanes with police officers?

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#1118 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Just a very small technicality. Still, those weapons provided far more firepower than is rationally necessary for self defense and whether or not it legally falls just a little bit short of being an assault rifle is of no consolatiom to grieving family members. Is your argument so weak and convoluted that you have to resort to two bit (if even that) personal attacks? If there is one thing the NRA hates in its quest to put gun industry profits ahead of our safety, it is comparison statistics because they do not reveal what the NRA wants to hear. I am not in favor of a blanket ban on firearms, but nobody needs a high powered and/or assault weapon for legitimate home self defense.
Now you are against high powered guns :) An AK or a M16 are not high powered at all. A 3006 is high powered

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#1119 Dec 18, 2012
GMGMIKE wrote:
<quoted text>... so how long would you stand in front of someone using a high capacity aftermarket mag hoping it jammed ... what a dummy ... an epic dummy ... you win the dumbest post award again ... duh hey cynic don't bother duckin he's using one of them aftermarket high capacity mags it will jam sooner or later ... well most of them do ...
GM have you ever fired a Thompson? Talk about a hard gun to control if you don't know what you are doing. Spray and pray. The old M-16 could empty the mag before the first case hit the ground and then you have an empty gun. The new 3 shot version is much better

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#1120 Dec 18, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>What difference does it make what gun he used? The 2 pistol would do the same job without a mag change. He could have done it with a single action revolver. Easy to reload when no one is shooting back at you
Large magazine assault rifles load far more rounds in less time and decrease the chance of escape before being mowed down in a mass killing situation. They are also deadly accurate at much greater distances than a pistol.

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#1121 Dec 18, 2012
Conjecture - I don't believe it has been released yet what caliber and what weapon did all the killing.

A BB gun can kill given the right placement.

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#1122 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Large magazine assault rifles load far more rounds in less time and decrease the chance of escape before being mowed down in a mass killing situation. They are also deadly accurate at much greater distances than a pistol.
So what? He was in the same room and had all the time he wanted. What gun he used doesn't really matter and we don't know yet what gun was used. Lets see what the police report says. Do you think you can run from the area before a new mag is loaded in a rifle or pistol? Have you ever seen a speed loader and a revolver? Pretty damn fast. With an expert he can fire and load faster than an auto

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#1123 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Conjecture - I don't believe it has been released yet what caliber and what weapon did all the killing.
A BB gun can kill given the right placement.
My point exactly. The reporters have thrown all the rules out the window.

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#1124 Dec 18, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text> Do you think you can run from the area before a new mag is loaded in a rifle or pistol?
Me? Probably.

A 5-year old? Probably not.

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#1125 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
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Me? Probably.
A 5-year old? Probably not.
I think you would be wrong. We had a crazy drive his truck into a Lubys Cafateria and pull out a semi auto pistol and start shooting everyone. He changed mags several time. This is what brought about our concealed carry laws

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#1126 Dec 18, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>Now you are against high powered guns :) An AK or a M16 are not high powered at all. A 3006 is high powered
I knew of a case where two friends were shooting a high powered rifle accross a lake and the bullet penetrated a house and killed a woman inside.
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#1127 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
Conjecture - I don't believe it has been released yet what caliber and what weapon did all the killing.
A BB gun can kill given the right placement.
True, although a BB gun wouldn't even be nearly as effective or as speedy as the weapon that Lanza had used. People like Lanza who planned on killing multiple victims, are usually well armed. The plan is to do the job as quickly as possible; which ends with taking their own life as well. In their twisted minds, the end justifies the means.

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#1128 Dec 18, 2012
Have you ever fired an assault rifle?
Until you do don't make a decision on their destiny
The experience is somewhere between -the Wild Cat rolleycoaster-and an orgasm.

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