I'm off te exercise my 2nd Amendment ...
SPCA

Lockhart, TX

#1089 Dec 17, 2012
Truthseeker wrote:
<quoted text>I think he meant 1052 Mr. Perfect.
you fncked up fatheadcatowner and
you're too big of a pooosy to admit it
Screen Actors Guild

Lockhart, TX

#1090 Dec 17, 2012
Deer Whisperer wrote:
<quoted text>
horsehit!
true grit was ok, big jim mclain, not so much
Genos Cerebral Cortex

Lockhart, TX

#1091 Dec 17, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>I wish we could leave all out misinformation to you. You're VERY good at it!
you ever feel like a grammatically challenged imbecile and everyone knows it? yeah, me too.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1092 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Poor little baby has to resort to juvenile vulgarity. Study after study has shown that weapons brought for protection in the home are used instead for unlawful purposes. How many times do you read about children getting hold of guns with tragic results? I am not suggesting that firearms be outlawed. All I am Saying is that we ought to ask ourselves, do we really need one in the house? And is it going to reduce the chance of being a victim of crime? There are a lot of things I could do that could enhance my enjoyment of life legally that I will not do out of concern that it may bother the neighbors unnecessarily.
Your head is clearly planted deep within your ass. Now the truth is vulgarity?

Study after study? You choose to read studies which support your POV. What about this? http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm

Or this
According to the authors of Cato’s recently released study on how often guns are used by citizens to prevent crime,“tens of thousands of crimes are prevented each year by ordinary citizens with guns.” In a study of more than 5,000 news reports over an eight-year period, Clayton Cramer and David Burnett showed that the mere presence of an armed citizen thwarts many crimes, even beyond those that are reported by the police and subsequently printed in the newspaper. Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/it...

Or this
Gun control proponents want legislation that will restrict access to firearms. The rationale for such legislation is to reduce accidental shootings and the criminal use of guns against people. But if harm reduction is the goal, policymakers should pause to consider how many crimes--murders, rapes, assaults, robberies--are thwarted by ordinary persons who were fortunate enough to have access to a gun. Gun control proponents cannot deny that people use guns successfully against criminals, but they tend to play down how often such events take place source: http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense

I could continue for a while.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1093 Dec 18, 2012
GMGMIKE wrote:
<quoted text>... this is by far the dumbest post i've read here ... you never had a six round clip jam ... your way off base with "high capacity magazine brought an end to the carnage" the batman movie shooter had a 100 rd duel canister clip ... and all he had to do was pull the trigger apparently you don't know sh!t about protection or the use of guns ... even with an automatic weapon the most accurate grouping comes with three round bursts ... if it was left on fully auto he would spray the clip with the first trigger pull and empty the clip ... shoot aim and shoot is the most deadliest way of firing with the exception of being under attack when the order for grazing fire is given then you sweep from right to left with the weapon held at body mass targets ... you ain't no john wayne and you never have been in a fire fight ... people like you are a what scares me about uneducated gun owners ... "it's the guns stupid" i don't give a crap if you want to shoot your ak-47 at pop bottles to get your nuts off ... gun reform is in order NOW ... there is no reason anyone needs 100 rd clips or assault weapons ... tell me the last time you got attacked by killer deer ... please don't answer back with any of the nra bullsh!t about if they take one away they'll take all of our guns away ... what a bunch of bs ... can i borrow you flame-thrower ...hey it's my second amendment right ... you watched Red Dawn to many times ... WOLVERENS ...
Clearly you know very little about firearms. Most aftermarket high capacity magazines have a tendency to jam.

You used the Colorado shooting magazine as an example. Guess what, it jammed. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57477362/...

When you claim dumbest post you’ve seen you might want to be correct on a point or two. Epic failure on your part.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1094 Dec 18, 2012
GMGMIKE wrote:
<quoted text>... gee thanks denny i didn't know that ... wtf...
There apparently is a lot you don’t know. You’re clueless when it comes to firearms. Like tallywacker you read an article or two on Wiki and proclaim you’re an expert.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1095 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>No BS.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-kellermann.ht...
http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2011/01/alt...
Of course the NRA will dispute any statistics it doesn't like. It is more for boosting firearm industry profits than reducing firearm fatalities.
The NRA is for the owners of firearms not the manufacturer profits. You really are clueless.

“I know where you are,”

Level 8

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#1096 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Your head is clearly planted deep within your ass. Now the truth is vulgarity?
Study after study? You choose to read studies which support your POV. What about this? http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm
Or this
According to the authors of Cato’s recently released study on how often guns are used by citizens to prevent crime,“tens of thousands of crimes are prevented each year by ordinary citizens with guns.” In a study of more than 5,000 news reports over an eight-year period, Clayton Cramer and David Burnett showed that the mere presence of an armed citizen thwarts many crimes, even beyond those that are reported by the police and subsequently printed in the newspaper. Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/it...
Or this
Gun control proponents want legislation that will restrict access to firearms. The rationale for such legislation is to reduce accidental shootings and the criminal use of guns against people. But if harm reduction is the goal, policymakers should pause to consider how many crimes--murders, rapes, assaults, robberies--are thwarted by ordinary persons who were fortunate enough to have access to a gun. Gun control proponents cannot deny that people use guns successfully against criminals, but they tend to play down how often such events take place source: http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense
I could continue for a while.
You do realize that by quoting John Birch and Cato - both Conservaturd blogs, your arguement has lost all its ability to stay airborne.

How about some real statistics?

"Gun-related death rates in the United States are eight times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it."

"In 2009, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 66.9% of all homicides in the United States were perpetrated using a firearm."

"In 2005, 75% of the 10,100 homicides committed using firearms in the United States were committed using handguns, compared to 4% with rifles, 5% with shotguns, and the rest with a type of firearm not specified."

Lastly, take a look at this chart if you will. Notice the UK and Canada's place on the list as compared to the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1097 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Let's make it simple. Households with guns nearly triple the chances of one being fatally shot. I do not like those odds.
You don’t understand statistics. The odds of winning Powerball are 1 in over 175 million. You buy three tickets and you triple your odds. Still not good odds despite tripling your odds of winning.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1098 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>see post #1152
What about a real link with verifiable data? You posted two individuals that happen to agree with you. Both anti-firearm nuts.

A real study will include methodology of the study, sample size and begin from a neutral position.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1099 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed, it is just as much as your right to carry a firearm as it is my right to be safe without one.
I wouldn't want anyone with only one week's training defending me in any shape or form.
If you saw the police practicing at the range you wouldn’t want them defending you either. I’m at the range at least once a week. Typical outing is around 500 rounds. Who would you rather have? Someone who can easily group tightly or someone who qualifies once or two annually with usually 50 rounds?

I used a range frequently when I lived in Atlanta which was also used by several police departments. Some of those cops were lucky to stay on paper at 12 feet.

At 12 feet with pistol I use a 3” target. Some of them couldn’t stay on a large silhouette. About 35” x 50”

“I know where you are,”

Level 8

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#1100 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
What about a real link with verifiable data? You posted two individuals that happen to agree with you. Both anti-firearm nuts.
A real study will include methodology of the study, sample size and begin from a neutral position.
LMFGDAO!!!

Like Cato or the John Birch Society?

LMFGDAO...LMAO...hahahaha!!!

Thanks dude - you made my day!!!

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1101 Dec 18, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>You are so very wrong again. Connecticut has an assault rifle ban in place. The Bushmaster does NOT fit the definition of that ban :)It is probably worded like the old federal ban. If it doesn't have a bayonet lug or other features discribed it is not an assault rifle. It has also been reported that the Bushmaster was in the trunk of his car. So much misinformation out there.
I saw the initial reports they found it in the trunk. I’ve since read it was his primary weapon. But, you’re correct, chances are it didn’t meet the legal definition of assault weapon.

Level 9

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#1102 Dec 18, 2012
You're off to exercise and I'm just 'off'.

flbadcatowner

“I call it as I see it.”

Level 8

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1103 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Your head is clearly planted deep within your ass. Now the truth is vulgarity?
Study after study? You choose to read studies which support your POV. What about this? http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm
Or this
According to the authors of Cato’s recently released study on how often guns are used by citizens to prevent crime,“tens of thousands of crimes are prevented each year by ordinary citizens with guns.” In a study of more than 5,000 news reports over an eight-year period, Clayton Cramer and David Burnett showed that the mere presence of an armed citizen thwarts many crimes, even beyond those that are reported by the police and subsequently printed in the newspaper. Source: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/it...
Or this
Gun control proponents want legislation that will restrict access to firearms. The rationale for such legislation is to reduce accidental shootings and the criminal use of guns against people. But if harm reduction is the goal, policymakers should pause to consider how many crimes--murders, rapes, assaults, robberies--are thwarted by ordinary persons who were fortunate enough to have access to a gun. Gun control proponents cannot deny that people use guns successfully against criminals, but they tend to play down how often such events take place source: http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense
I could continue for a while.
Yes and thankfully you have chosen to spare us any more of your juvenile BS and one word of it is one word too many.

Level 9

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#1104 Dec 18, 2012
Hey -'eternal cynic', let me know if you find any 'neutral positions' around here !!!

You must be a comedian, too. The place is full of 'em.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1105 Dec 18, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize that by quoting John Birch and Cato - both Conservaturd blogs, your arguement has lost all its ability to stay airborne.
How about some real statistics?
"Gun-related death rates in the United States are eight times higher than they are in countries that are economically and politically similar to it."
"In 2009, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, 66.9% of all homicides in the United States were perpetrated using a firearm."
"In 2005, 75% of the 10,100 homicides committed using firearms in the United States were committed using handguns, compared to 4% with rifles, 5% with shotguns, and the rest with a type of firearm not specified."
Lastly, take a look at this chart if you will. Notice the UK and Canada's place on the list as compared to the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
Here we go with Wiki again. Anyone can modify a Wiki entry, including you.

Wiki, preferred facts for the liberal.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

Level 4

Since: Feb 08

Wesley Chapel, FL

#1106 Dec 18, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Yes and thankfully you have chosen to spare us any more of your juvenile BS and one word of it is one word too many.
Who is us? Do you have multiple personalities floating around in your head?

“I know where you are,”

Level 8

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#1107 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we go with Wiki again. Anyone can modify a Wiki entry, including you.
Wiki, preferred facts for the liberal.
Nice red herring, typical conservaturd tactic when they lack facts.

You learn that from Rmoney did you?

flbadcatowner

“I call it as I see it.”

Level 8

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#1108 Dec 18, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
I saw the initial reports they found it in the trunk. I’ve since read it was his primary weapon. But, you’re correct, chances are it didn’t meet the legal definition of assault weapon.
Just a very small technicality. Still, those weapons provided far more firepower than is rationally necessary for self defense and whether or not it legally falls just a little bit short of being an assault rifle is of no consolatiom to grieving family members. Is your argument so weak and convoluted that you have to resort to two bit (if even that) personal attacks? If there is one thing the NRA hates in its quest to put gun industry profits ahead of our safety, it is comparison statistics because they do not reveal what the NRA wants to hear. I am not in favor of a blanket ban on firearms, but nobody needs a high powered and/or assault weapon for legitimate home self defense.

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