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#1047 Dec 16, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
When was the last time a citizen stopped a school/mall/theater shooting?
Probably the last time it was legal for a citizen to be armed there.

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#1048 Dec 16, 2012
Denny Crain wrote:
<quoted text>What the hell is an assault rifle????? Real military weapons are FULL auto. Why ban guns on how they look? Under Clinton an AR 15 was banned but a Ruger ranch rifle was OK. Take an AK47 and take off the pistol grip and it is no longer an assault weapon. Take the bayonet lug off an AR and it is no longer an assault weapon. Just boob bate for the ignorant public
I believe that rifles that hold large ammo clips and are accurate at distances of 300 yards or more such as an ar15 or an AK47 should qualify. I am sure somebody can come up with a plausible explanation of what constitutes an assault rifle.

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#1049 Dec 16, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Show your sources listing the number of firearms purchased in the US versus the number of accidental child injuries or deaths,
That would be a very spurious comparison as I was talking about the ratio of death or injury to children playing with guns or any other death from firearms other than self defense. The point remains that firearms bought for self defense are less likely to be used in justifiable homicides than the sum of accidental and unlawful homicides. In other words, a gun in the house makes it more likely one will be a gun shot victim. Also that does not take into consideration that there are multiple firearms in a house and not all firearms are purchased by homeowners. I don't think you would want to see what the statistics are on the number of firearms purchased compared to the number of justifiable homicides.

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#1050 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that rifles that hold large ammo clips and are accurate at distances of 300 yards or more such as an ar15 or an AK47 should qualify. I am sure somebody can come up with a plausible explanation of what constitutes an assault rifle.
You really should stick to topics you know something about.

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#1051 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I believe that rifles that hold large ammo clips and are accurate at distances of 300 yards or more such as an ar15 or an AK47 should qualify. I am sure somebody can come up with a plausible explanation of what constitutes an assault rifle.
Well, don't count on the agenda-driven gun nutters on here. If they can't see that the Bushmaster the murderer used was an "assault rifle" it's because their eyes are as closed as their minds.

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#1052 Dec 16, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Have you got any proof to back up that BS?
No BS.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-kellermann.ht...

http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2011/01/alt...

Of course the NRA will dispute any statistics it doesn't like. It is more for boosting firearm industry profits than reducing firearm fatalities.

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#1053 Dec 16, 2012
What happened to Dr. Dirty? I've seen him trolling graybox but haven't noticed his avatar anywhere. Oh well, no loss.

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#1054 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>That would be a very spurious comparison as I was talking about the ratio of death or injury to children playing with guns or any other death from firearms other than self defense. The point remains that firearms bought for self defense are less likely to be used in justifiable homicides than the sum of accidental and unlawful homicides. In other words, a gun in the house makes it more likely one will be a gun shot victim. Also that does not take into consideration that there are multiple firearms in a house and not all firearms are purchased by homeowners. I don't think you would want to see what the statistics are on the number of firearms purchased compared to the number of justifiable homicides.
Who do the laws that you propose affect? Now you were saying its spurious why?
You want to pick and choose the numbers and statistics you use.
Why don't you tell us the statistics on unjustifiable homicides committed by someone that purchased their firearm legally, compared to the number of unjustifiable homicides committed by someone with illegally obtained guns. Or is that spurious as well?

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#1055 Dec 16, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Well, don't count on the agenda-driven gun nutters on here. If they can't see that the Bushmaster the murderer used was an "assault rifle" it's because their eyes are as closed as their minds.
So if of the people killed with baseball bats, a larger percentage were killed with Louisville Sluggers than other brands, you would propose that we ban Louisville Sluggers?

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#1056 Dec 16, 2012
No bats at all this includes my wife.

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#1057 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>No BS.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-kellermann.ht...

http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2011/01/alt...

Of course the NRA will dispute any statistics it doesn't like. It is more for boosting firearm industry profits than reducing firearm fatalities.
Keep drinking the socialist propaganda cool-aid.
Your stats do not differentiate between those that have legally purchased firearms in the house from those with illegal firearms in the home.

Your second link referenced suicide as well. If someone is going to commit suicide, they will find another way if they do not have a gun. Look at suicide rates in Japan.

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#1058 Dec 16, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Well, don't count on the agenda-driven gun nutters on here. If they can't see that the Bushmaster the murderer used was an "assault rifle" it's because their eyes are as closed as their minds.
Absolutely right. Let me add that the NRA is no more truthful than a typical politician on the campaign trail.

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#1059 Dec 16, 2012
Check the links on post #1052 one will show 4 accidental deaths to every 1 justifiable homicide in the home.

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#1060 Dec 16, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Keep drinking the socialist propaganda cool-aid.
Your stats do not differentiate between those that have legally purchased firearms in the house from those with illegal firearms in the home.
Your second link referenced suicide as well. If someone is going to commit suicide, they will find another way if they do not have a gun. Look at suicide rates in Japan.
Even if we subtract suicides from the totals, there are still far more deaths that are not justifiable homicides compared to justifiable ones. And all too often people who commit suicide with firearms often take others with them first.

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#1061 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Even if we subtract suicides from the totals, there are still far more deaths that are not justifiable homicides compared to justifiable ones. And all too often people who commit suicide with firearms often take others with them first.
You're off on a tangent. I simply mentioned the suicides to point out that Japan bans all guns yet have 4 times the suicide rate of the US.

You are still sidestepping the fact that your sources do not differentiate legally owned firearms from illegally owned firearms.

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#1062 Dec 16, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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You're off on a tangent. I simply mentioned the suicides to point out that Japan bans all guns yet have 4 times the suicide rate of the US.
You are still sidestepping the fact that your sources do not differentiate legally owned firearms from illegally owned firearms.
That is irrelevant as higher rates of suicide are the result of cultural differences, This is a red herring that doesn't change the fact that murder-suicides are more likely to occur in a house with a firearm.

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#1063 Dec 16, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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Who do the laws that you propose affect? Now you were saying its spurious why?
You want to pick and choose the numbers and statistics you use.
Why don't you tell us the statistics on unjustifiable homicides committed by someone that purchased their firearm legally, compared to the number of unjustifiable homicides committed by someone with illegally obtained guns. Or is that spurious as well?
Let's make it simple. Households with guns nearly triple the chances of one being fatally shot. I do not like those odds.
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#1064 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Let's make it simple. Households with guns nearly triple the chances of one being fatally shot. I do not like those odds.
LINK...

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#1065 Dec 16, 2012
Rambler wrote:
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LINK...
see post #1152
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#1066 Dec 16, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>see post #1152
87 posts 4.35 pages in the future
dayum, you really are dumb.

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