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#841 Dec 11, 2012
this is what I said ..........
tallyho
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22 hrs ago

have you ever wondered why there are 9 justices ??
..... I do believe a president has a limitation of appointees and remember they have to be approved by Congress

but we don't live in a dictatorship ... may seem that way but we don't ... proof Prohibition was enacted and repealed

but we don't live in a dictatorship ... may seem that way but we don't ... proof Prohibition was enacted and repealed

NOTE:
and I do believe a president has a limitation of appointees and remember they have to be approved by Congress

not nominees......... big difference , play at law at least learn that words are very important..

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#842 Dec 11, 2012
and of course in reference to the above statement.....

tallyho|
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22 hrs ago

just found it one president can appoint two per term... so now you know why 9

........Obama will have the chance to appoint two in his first term and two more in his second term if he is reelected. B. Supreme Court justices serve lifetime

just found it [ meaning a limitation]

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#843 Dec 11, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Add to that list fists and other parts of the human body. So maybe we would have to ban humans which would indeed solve the problem.
Sounds good to me, let's start with you.......

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#844 Dec 11, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Yes, that someone was Hasan whom I used in my reply. Thatís who Prep-for-dep would allow to die. To refresh your memory hereís the post in full. Post 733 this thread.
<quoted text>
The major referred to is Major Nidal Hasan. They should have allowed him to perish.
I in no way changed the story. I added another scenario to illustrate how your judge and jury statement is flawed. The wisest and most logical thing you can do after shooting a home invader is make sure thereís not a second intruder. That search should last at least 10 minutes which in many cases would resolve your scenario.
You don't want a serious discussion about the subject of this thread. You want to argue some home invasion theories and twist words.

Resolve my senario.......

Please just skip over my posts and I'll skip over yours.

I'm not your huckelberry.......

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#845 Dec 11, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Hasan was initially in the intensive care unit of Brooke Army Medical Center. The fact they had him on a ventilator indicates he was unable to breathe on his own. His wounds included damage to the spine which will render him paralyzed from the waist down for life.
Where are you retrieving your ďfactsĒ?
Again, morality and legal isnít always compatible. I would have allowed him to die. You would defend the life of one who killed so many?

I'm not "defending" Hasan.(Nice try) I'm defending the CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW. Where do you get your "facts"? Post your sites.

"Hasan, the alleged gunman, was taken to Scott & White hospital, a trauma center in Temple, Texas, and later moved to Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas, where he was held under heavy guard."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooti...

"Update | 9:15 p.m. At a news conference outside Fort Hood the base commander, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, just revealed that earlier reports that the suspected gunman, Major Nidal Hasan, had been killed were incorrect. Major Hasan was wounded but remains alive, Lt. Gen. Cone said, adding that he is in custody and ďHIS DEATH IS NOT IMMINENT".
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/r...

"Again, morality and legal isnít always compatible."

LOL Yup.. GW Bush and his minions proved that with his immoral and illegal invasion of Iraq. The Wall Street Bankers have proved that, as well. So, because these criminals are allowed to run free, does that mean that we, as a society should stop striving to live in a moral way? How can the U.S go all over the world touting "democracy" and "the rule of law" when we clearly don't follow the law ourselves?

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#846 Dec 11, 2012
tallyho wrote:
Amendment II - Right to Bear Arms A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

what is the age limit ....??????
The age of independence from parental rule.

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#847 Dec 11, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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The age of independence from parental rule.
You're sort of right. There is the issue of liability for the parents. It looks to me it's up to the individual states....sort of. Here's the law...you decide.

US Court of Appeals Rejects Challenge to Laws Preventing Young People from Buying Handguns

Last month, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit upheld federal laws and regulations that prohibit federally licensed dealers from selling handguns to individuals who are younger than 21.

http://smartgunlaws.org/us-court-of-appeals-r...
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Can a Minor Possess a Gun?

Whether or not a minor may legally possess a handgun or other firearm depends on the law of the specific state:

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article...

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#848 Dec 11, 2012
Dr-Sniper wrote:
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The age of independence from parental rule.
excuse where does it say that....?can you underline it for me

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#849 Dec 11, 2012
PART A

The Second Amendment Defined:

The Second Amendment is a part of the Bill of Rights, which are the first 10 Amendments to the United States Constitution and the framework to elucidate upon the freedoms of the individual. The Bill of Rights were proposed and sent to the states by the first session of the First Congress. They were later ratified on December 15, 1791.

The first 10 Amendments to the United States Constitution were introduced by James Madison as a series of legislative articles and came into effect as Constitutional Amendments following the process of ratification by three-fourths of the States on December 15, 1791.

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#850 Dec 11, 2012
PART B

The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right of the individual to keep and bear firearms.

The right to arm oneself is viewed as a personal liberty to deter undemocratic or oppressive governing bodies from forming and to repel impending invasions. Furthermore, the right to bear arms was instituted within the Bill of Rights to suppress insurrection, participate and uphold the law, enable the citizens of the United States to organize a militia, and to facilitate the natural right to self-defense.

The Second Amendment was developed as a result of the tyrannous rule of the British parliament. Colonists were often oppressed and forced to pay unjust taxes at the hand of the unruly parliament. As a result, the American people yearned for an Amendment that would guarantee them the right to bear arms and protect themselves against similar situations. The Second Amendment was drafted to provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States through the ability to raise and support militia

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#851 Dec 11, 2012
so as written WE have the right to own our missile/submarine/ etc etc and there isn't any age restriction , or restriction at all....

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

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#852 Dec 11, 2012
Great interpretation!

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#853 Dec 11, 2012
that is a cool hand you have there

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#854 Dec 11, 2012
tallyho wrote:
what ever you don't ever think that statement covers all.. because it would have said PRESIDENTS.... but I can see your blindness if you don't consider Obama as president...
stand a hard line ...
Doesnít matter if Obama or anyone else is in office. The rules remains static.

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#855 Dec 11, 2012
tallyho wrote:
this is what I said ..........
tallyho
#765
22 hrs ago
have you ever wondered why there are 9 justices ??
..... I do believe a president has a limitation of appointees and remember they have to be approved by Congress
but we don't live in a dictatorship ... may seem that way but we don't ... proof Prohibition was enacted and repealed
but we don't live in a dictatorship ... may seem that way but we don't ... proof Prohibition was enacted and repealed
NOTE:
and I do believe a president has a limitation of appointees and remember they have to be approved by Congress
not nominees......... big difference , play at law at least learn that words are very important..
I reposted what you stated. Do you deny the post?

Iíve provided you with the pertinent portion of the US Constitution, the entire constitution and a site which has annotations which may be used to answer questions you may have. Still, you avoid the question.

Where did you get 2 from?

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#856 Dec 11, 2012
tallyho wrote:
and of course in reference to the above statement.....
tallyho|
#766
22 hrs ago
just found it one president can appoint two per term... so now you know why 9
........Obama will have the chance to appoint two in his first term and two more in his second term if he is reelected. B. Supreme Court justices serve lifetime
just found it [ meaning a limitation]
Where are you getting two from? Full circle.Answer that.

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#858 Dec 11, 2012
Tiger Lilly wrote:
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You don't want a serious discussion about the subject of this thread. You want to argue some home invasion theories and twist words.
Resolve my senario.......
Please just skip over my posts and I'll skip over yours.
I'm not your huckelberry.......
I addressed both. The initial statement which you railed against and the scenario I added to defy your judge and jury statement.

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#859 Dec 11, 2012
Nancy Botwin wrote:
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I'm not "defending" Hasan.(Nice try) I'm defending the CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW. Where do you get your "facts"? Post your sites.
"Hasan, the alleged gunman, was taken to Scott & White hospital, a trauma center in Temple, Texas, and later moved to Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio, Texas, where he was held under heavy guard."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooti...
"Update | 9:15 p.m. At a news conference outside Fort Hood the base commander, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, just revealed that earlier reports that the suspected gunman, Major Nidal Hasan, had been killed were incorrect. Major Hasan was wounded but remains alive, Lt. Gen. Cone said, adding that he is in custody and ďHIS DEATH IS NOT IMMINENT".
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/r...
"Again, morality and legal isnít always compatible."
LOL Yup.. GW Bush and his minions proved that with his immoral and illegal invasion of Iraq. The Wall Street Bankers have proved that, as well. So, because these criminals are allowed to run free, does that mean that we, as a society should stop striving to live in a moral way? How can the U.S go all over the world touting "democracy" and "the rule of law" when we clearly don't follow the law ourselves?
Case closed.
You claim not treating Hasan would have been a violation of due process. Prove your assertion. You then moved him into the hospital where treatment would indeed be required. Prep-for-Dep had him laying where he was dropped. I would have left him there for a while.

Then you claimed his injuries werenít that serious. I provided you information to the contrary.

You want links yet all your post is Wiki and a blog. Right. Keep dreaming if you think thatís evidence to support your initial claim. Everything Iíve stated related to the Hasan case is readily available. Facts are really quite simple.

Hasan illegally uses his weapon to kill several and wound many. He was shot and dropped. I would have left him there until all of his victims were attended to. That probably would have been more than enough time to allow him to expire. Shouldnít his victims come first? How exactly would due process be violated?

I guess you are a liberal. Something bad happens and bring George Bush into the discussion. Deflect much? What exactly did Bush have to do with the incident? Dishonest much?

Ending with case closed is by far the most closed minded method of debate. Try addressing the issues.

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#860 Dec 11, 2012
tallyho wrote:
PART B
The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the right of the individual to keep and bear firearms.
The right to arm oneself is viewed as a personal liberty to deter undemocratic or oppressive governing bodies from forming and to repel impending invasions. Furthermore, the right to bear arms was instituted within the Bill of Rights to suppress insurrection, participate and uphold the law, enable the citizens of the United States to organize a militia, and to facilitate the natural right to self-defense.
The Second Amendment was developed as a result of the tyrannous rule of the British parliament. Colonists were often oppressed and forced to pay unjust taxes at the hand of the unruly parliament. As a result, the American people yearned for an Amendment that would guarantee them the right to bear arms and protect themselves against similar situations. The Second Amendment was drafted to provide for the common defense and the general welfare of the United States through the ability to raise and support militia
Try again, this time using your own words.

Technically youíre correct with your post. When you take someone elseís words you should give credit. Failure to do that amounts to plagiarism.

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#861 Dec 11, 2012
Now that you mention it, what was George Bush's approval rating when he left office?

George W. Bush's Second-Term Average = 37%

George W. Bush's Low Point = 25%

Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

January 2009

Approve - 34%
Disapprove - 61%
No opinion - 5%

Yeah, we don't want to blame Bush for anything - he was a well-liked president.

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