“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#603 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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why do you keep going back to a city ordinance ...
states have the right to self rule , but can not become a republic within a republic .... other words we come to the mutual aid of all... understand ....
gov , can not use the state militia to prevent the rights of others... outdated thinking
basic constitution law .... did you know that the bill of rights is purloined from the Magna Charta
I keep going back to a SCOTUS decision, because it applies to all government including state and local as a result of the decision. Try reading the decision and you may understand the ramifications and potential unintended consequences of the decision.

States do not have any rights. Youíre confusing state sovereignty with rights. Much of that disappeared with the fourteenth amendment as well. You might want to review the supremacy clause as well.

Portions of the of the Bill of Rights does indeed have its roots in the Magna Carta, in particular portions of the fifth amendment. While an interesting fact it has no relevance to the discussion at hand.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#604 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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oh yes you are over looking a fine point , I never said do away with guns , outdated thinking yes ..
remember at one time you couldn't even shop on a Sunday
Where did I claim you stated you wanted to do away with all guns? Do point that out.

Again, youíre wrong. You could go shopping but couldnít buy certain items on Sunday. Those were called blue laws. Iím old enough to remember entire aisles of stores covered to prevent the sale of certain items. How exactly are blue laws tied to current discussion?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#605 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho wrote:
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i'm not going to sit and read the whole law .....
try it yourself.....Has not violated the Gun Control Act or its regulations
pick one]
A........The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA or GCA68), Pub.L. 90-618, 82 Stat. 1213, enacted October 22, 1968, is a federal law in the United States signed by President Lyndon
B.......Gun law in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Under the United States Gun Control Act of ... Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990. The Federal Gun Free School Zone Act of 1990 severely limits where a person may
C......Federal gun control act related searches:
federal gun control act of 1968 federal gun control act of 1997
federal gun control act 18 u s c 922 g 9 1968 federal gun control act
federal gun control act 1996 federal gun control act domestic violence
federal gun control act of 1986 civil rights and federal gun control act
I didnít give you a law; I gave you the form you claimed knowledge of. Of course you wonít read it, facts are inconvenient to your position. The 4473 form is completed by the buyer at time of transfer. All of the disqualifiers on are the first page.

You have no clue what youíre talking about. Whatís your firsthand experience with firearms? Whatís your firsthand experience buying or selling arms?

Glancing down a Wiki page wonít give you a good understanding. Thatís all youíre doing here.

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#606 Dec 8, 2012
why are you crying .....

do you read.........

where do you see I say" you or any where else
oh yes you are over looking a fine point" I never said do away with guns , outdated thinking yes ..

Where did I claim you stated you wanted to do away with all guns? Do point that out.

please don't practice law

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#607 Dec 8, 2012
you know what I really can not take this cry baby shit any more ..... you are the greatest thing since Cain use a rock instead of a GUN..

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#609 Dec 8, 2012
info : for those who do not practice law.....
Under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, citizens have the right to keep and bear arms. This particular amendment has come under considerable scrutiny, specifically, about the right to conceal a weapon in public, in the name of self-defense. After a wide array of cases, the U.S. Supreme Court has left it to each state to determine its policy on concealed weapons.

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#610 Dec 8, 2012
info: California's permit policy ranges from No-Issue cities like San Francisco, to policies resembling Shall-Issue in more rural areas. For more specific policies, check with your police or sheriff's department. California does not recognize out-of-state permits.

District of Columbia is a May-Issue district, distributing permits sparingly and on a month-to-month basis.

Hawaii allows permits, but according to the website Handgunlaw.us, it has never issued one and does not honor out-of-state permits.

Iowa has a similar, though more lenient, policy than California's. Effective Jan. 1, 2011, the state changed to a Shall-Issue state.

Maryland requests that applicants demonstrate the need for a permit by providing documentation of threats to his or her well-being.

New York leaves the distribution of permits up to counties; in New York City, however, a permit is allowed by law

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#611 Dec 8, 2012
second time:

Federal Firearms License Application

Filling out the federal firearms license application correctly will allow you to possibly run a very successful gun dealership. This is why it is so important you do this correctly the first time. By not following just a few simple guidelines you could end up with a police investigation as well as being investigated by the FBI. Now obviously you do not want that. If you just follow the simple steps below you will be able to get your federal firearms license in no time.

The first tip is to make sure you are fully qualified to actually obtain this license in the first place. If you fail to meet the requirements in any way then you are opening yourself up to world of pain. The requirements are as follows:

You must be 21 years of age or older

You have not been convicted of a crime which prohibits you from owning a firearm

You have not previously violated federal firearms regulations in the past

You have not withheld or fabricated any information on your application

You have a permanent structure in order to conduct business which can be either a home or a physical business location.

wonder what is meant by have not

HAVE NOT

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#612 Dec 8, 2012
info .......
About Concealed Weapons Permits
How to Carry Your Concealed Weapon Across State Lines While on a Trip

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No-Issue States

No-Issue states reserve the right to not issue or recognize concealed weapon permits. This means that no person in that particular state or district may carry a concealed weapon in public at any time, nor will the authorities honor a permit from another state.

Illinois and Wisconsin both have No-Issue policies, and firmly uphold them.
Shall-Issue States

Shall-Issue states are those that distribute permits so long as the applicants meet the requirements. These requirements vary from state to state. In general, they might include being a valid state resident, meeting the age requirement, submitting fingerprints, passing a computerized background check, attending a firearms safety class and paying a fee.

Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa (effective Jan. 1, 2011), Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming are all Shall-Issue states.

In Connecticut, the policy varies from May-Issue to Shall-Issue, depending on the area. Typically, rural areas are more lenient. Police departments issue the permits. If you are denied a permit, contact the Connecticut Department of Public Safety Special Licensing and Firearms Unit, which will grant you the permit as long as you meet the criteria.
May-Issue States

May-Issue states are those that leave the distribution and requirements for concealed weapon permits to local authorities, typically by counties.

Alabama is a May-Issue state in law only. The distribution of permits closely resembles a Shall-Issue policy.

California's permit policy ranges from No-Issue cities like San Francisco, to policies resembling Shall-Issue in more rural areas. For more specific policies, check with your police or sheriff's department. California does not recognize out-of-state permits.

District of Columbia is a May-Issue district, distributing permits sparingly and on a month-to-month basis.

Hawaii allows permits, but according to the website Handgunlaw.us, it has never issued one and does not honor out-of-state permits.

Iowa has a similar, though more lenient, policy than California's. Effective Jan. 1, 2011, the state changed to a Shall-Issue state.

Maryland requests that applicants demonstrate the need for a permit by providing documentation of threats to his or her well-being.

New York leaves the distribution of permits up to counties; in New York City, however, a permit is allowed by law.
Unrestricted

In Unrestricted states, no permit is required to carry a concealed weapon. Only three states have such policies: Alaska, Arizona and Vermont.

Alaska issues permits, but they aren't required to carry concealed weapons in the state. The state issues them at the request of citizens who want documentation when they go out of state.

Arizona became an Unrestricted state July 29, 2010.

Vermont doesn't require permits for either residents or nonresidents to carry concealed weapons. This state's situation is unique, however, because residents are unable to carry their concealed weapons out of state. If you are a Vermont resident and wish to carry out of state, check with other states to see if you can get a nonresident permit

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#613 Dec 8, 2012
state rights defined..........

States' rights in U.S. politics refers to political powers reserved for the U.S. state governments rather than the federal government. Since the 1940s, it has often been considered a loaded term because of its use in opposition to federally mandated racial desegregation. In law, states' prerogatives are protected by the Tenth Amendment.

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#614 Dec 8, 2012
blue laws defined .........

A blue law is a type of law designed to enforce religious standards, particularly the observance of a day of worship or rest. In the US, most blue laws have been repealed, declared unconstitutional, or are simply unenforced; though prohibitions on the sale of alcoholic beverages or prohibitions of almost all commerce on Sundays are still enforced in many areas. Blue laws often prohibit an activity only during certain hours and there are usually exceptions to the prohibition of commerce, like grocery and drug stores. In some places, blue laws may be enforced due to religious principles, but others are retained as a matter of tradition or out of convenience.]

Many European countries, such as Germany, ban most Sunday shopping. In Saudi Arabia, eating in public during the daytime is prohibited during the holy month of Ramadan. In Islam, it's prohibited to trade at the time of the Friday prayer.

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#616 Dec 8, 2012
G*B*A*

“Antisocialistic”

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#617 Dec 8, 2012
I see Tally got diarrhea of the post. Guess he thinks flooding the thread will make him right.

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#618 Dec 8, 2012
prove one wrong .... proves all of those authors are right ...

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#619 Dec 8, 2012
and of course you are still bawling

“Antisocialistic”

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#620 Dec 8, 2012
Tally, why don't you address who you are ousting to? It's not hard.
It's obvious you are trying to leave the subject matter behind. Going off on tangents that address things people posting to you weren't saying in the first place, doesn't fool anyone. It simply wastes your time and energy.

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#621 Dec 8, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
Tally, why don't you address who you are ousting to? It's not hard.
It's obvious you are trying to leave the subject matter behind. Going off on tangents that address things people posting to you weren't saying in the first place, doesn't fool anyone. It simply wastes your time and energy.
ok since you need an arrow...
prove one wrong .... proves all of those authors are right ..
and of course you are still bawling
if you can not put your heart into this bawling of yours , please go home

“Antisocialistic”

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Lake Charles, LA

#622 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho wrote:
<quoted text>ok since you need an arrow...
prove one wrong .... proves all of those authors are right ..
and of course you are still bawling
if you can not put your heart into this bawling of yours , please go home
Show examples of me bawling, as you put it.

“Antisocialistic”

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Lake Charles, LA

#624 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho wrote:
<quoted text>ok since you need an arrow...
prove one wrong .... proves all of those authors are right ..
and of course you are still bawling
if you can not put your heart into this bawling of yours , please go home
I don't have to. You went off on tangents again to detract from the facts EC posted.
It's like poster X says," bluejays eat other birds eggs" then poster Y says," bluejays are blue, birds have feathers, and ducks are birds".
Then poster Y says," prove anything I posted wrong!".

“Antisocialistic”

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#625 Dec 8, 2012
tallyho sock wrote:
And I give myself all the positive jugits to add credence to what I say.
Lmao!!!

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