Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223384 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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wondering

Morris, OK

#120992 Aug 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Good to see you back.
Yes, I think that pretty much sums it up. I noticed your stalker is blazing for you. Sorry to see that. If it is any consolation, your running him around is very amusing.
randy if you consider me a stalker to sub, then you must be the super ultimate stalker to kab and oneway.
wondering

Morris, OK

#120993 Aug 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Recorded from previous experience,
where did the first life get its information? shock treatment?

“Merry Christmas”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#120994 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Good. I went into the heart of the Beast for a while. Taking on creationists on their own ground. I got the naughty boy treatment for pointing out to a fool that he was acting like a fool.
I came here to blow off a little steam by dealing with dishonest idiots directly.
I see wondering still can't be honest, bohart still does not have a clue and jimbo is as crazy as ever.
Seems your stalker is "looking for fun" and I have caught is eye. Sorry, didn't mean to interfere with what you have going with your Topix Bitch.
wondering

Morris, OK

#120995 Aug 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Seems your stalker is "looking for fun" and I have caught is eye. Sorry, didn't mean to interfere with what you have going with your Topix Bitch.
don't you have kab and/or oneway to go stalk and ridicule. that is what you do best.
wondering

Morris, OK

#120996 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Your lack of education is shown by the questions you ask. It is not childish to point out that fact.
speaking of education. abut a month or so ago myself, dan, dogen, poly and others all told what are education is. you did not. is it perhaps you dodged that as well because you have no education? <<(this is a question)

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#120997 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked for solid scientific evidence that supports the earth created itself. i did not ask for proof. you are the one that threw proof in as a dodge tactic.
again,,,, this is not a question, "then it is simple. show the solid scientific evidence that says without a doubt, that the universe created itself. show it instead of just stating what you believe." it is a request for you to back what you say.
i see your back to calling it a question after you agreed it wasn't. make up your mind cupcake. lol
1) now lets be clear here.
2) this is not a question
3) therefore I am requesting that you back what you said when I say
4) "then it is simple. show the solid scientific evidence that says without a doubt, that the universe created itself. show it instead of just stating what you believe.(<<notice the period because it is not a question)
5) prediction,,,you will dodge my "REQUEST"/DEMAND and whine about something again.
Quit lying moron, it is not like your post is not still there for all of us to read. Here it is in its entirety:

"then it is simple. show the solid scientific evidence that says without a doubt, that the universe created itself. show it instead of just stating what you believe."

This is asking for proof. It may not be in the form of a proper question it is still asking for proof. You went beyond asking for evidence since you wanted it to show "without a doubt", in other words proof.

Try again. Be polite. Don't be a dishonest idiot, and you will get answers.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#120998 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
speaking of education. abut a month or so ago myself, dan, dogen, poly and others all told what are education is. you did not. is it perhaps you dodged that as well because you have no education? <<(this is a question)
I have not been here of late. So what is your supposed level of education? In what field?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#120999 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
where did the first life get its information? shock treatment?
You are misusing the word "information". There was no need for an intelligence to put the "information" found in early life.

Remember there is information in varves. There is information in ice cores. There was no intelligence involved.

Once again you are conflating "information" from an intelligent source with inherent information.
wondering

Morris, OK

#121000 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not been here of late. So what is your supposed level of education? In what field?
another dodge. you were here because you said you thought i was lying about my education same as you said i was lying about what i said i support and why when you asked me what I 'believed"

“ad victoriam”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#121001 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
where did the first life get its information? shock treatment?
Recorded from it predecessors
wondering

Morris, OK

#121002 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
You are misusing the word "information". There was no need for an intelligence to put the "information" found in early life.
Remember there is information in varves. There is information in ice cores. There was no intelligence involved.
Once again you are conflating "information" from an intelligent source with inherent information.
I have to laugh at the way you bring up "creator" and "intelligent source" and then tell me I am the one more or less doing it. lol

life some how obtained information to reproduce, survive, etc etc. unless you believe it also taught itself from nothing when there was no prior information to pass on like you believe it created itself from nothing (so to speak). we get information passed on to us. first life had no prior information of anything.

“ad victoriam”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#121003 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to laugh at the way you bring up "creator" and "intelligent source" and then tell me I am the one more or less doing it. lol
life some how obtained information to reproduce, survive, etc etc. unless you believe it also taught itself from nothing when there was no prior information to pass on like you believe it created itself from nothing (so to speak). we get information passed on to us. first life had no prior information of anything.
Sure it did, this was a criteria for life to develop.
The ability to store information in dna/rna is a perquisite.
wondering

Morris, OK

#121004 Aug 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Recorded from it predecessors
what was before first life that it could be recorded from?
wondering

Morris, OK

#121005 Aug 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Sure it did, this was a criteria for life to develop.
The ability to store information in dna/rna is a perquisite.
you seem to be confused. before first life arose, what stored information to pass it on when life, became life?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#121006 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
another dodge. you were here because you said you thought i was lying about my education same as you said i was lying about what i said i support and why when you asked me what I 'believed"
Not a dodge idiot. You have lied countless times here. I am not telling you my education level until I hear what level you claim to have.

Why do creatards call it a dodge when they don't get the answers that they want to get?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#121007 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to laugh at the way you bring up "creator" and "intelligent source" and then tell me I am the one more or less doing it. lol
life some how obtained information to reproduce, survive, etc etc. unless you believe it also taught itself from nothing when there was no prior information to pass on like you believe it created itself from nothing (so to speak). we get information passed on to us. first life had no prior information of anything.
You are always implying that you tard. Remember, we are not as stupid as you are.

And again, even after I pointed out how you misused the definition of "information" you did it again.

What an unbelievable tard!

You don't need to mention Jesus to be lying for Jesus tard.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#121008 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
you seem to be confused. before first life arose, what stored information to pass it on when life, became life?
Still misusing the word "information".

Does anyone think that he will ever quit?
wondering

Morris, OK

#121009 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a dodge idiot. You have lied countless times here. I am not telling you my education level until I hear what level you claim to have.
Why do creatards call it a dodge when they don't get the answers that they want to get?
that is always your excuse. "you are not doing it until someone else does" then you still never do anything.
i already have. you were there and ran it down. i do believe it is your turn this time. as i said myself, dan, dogen, ploy and others already have.
wondering

Morris, OK

#121010 Aug 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
You are always implying that you tard. Remember, we are not as stupid as you are.
And again, even after I pointed out how you misused the definition of "information" you did it again.
What an unbelievable tard!
You don't need to mention Jesus to be lying for Jesus tard.
as I said you can call me all the names you want. i out grew letting that childish game bother me along time ago( I bel;ieve in grade school). it shows more about you than it shows about me.
so lets run your belief down;
1) you believe the universe created itself from pretty much nothing
2) you believe either
a) life created itself from pretty much nothing or
b) the self-created universe self-created life from pretty much nothing
3) you believe life created information itself when no prior information existed(again nothing)
4) so what you believe is just about everything just happened from nothing.
yes that about sums up what you believe.
creationists believe in a deity, that is everywhere but seems to be made of nothing. you both should realize what you believe does not make it so or right. all it means is that you chose to believe that.
we don't know and we may never know how the universe or life began/started and that is the most honest answer anyone can give without letting their belief interfere.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#121011 Aug 27, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
that is always your excuse. "you are not doing it until someone else does" then you still never do anything.
i already have. you were there and ran it down. i do believe it is your turn this time. as i said myself, dan, dogen, ploy and others already have.
That is right idiot. I have helped you creatard fools too often only to find that you never keep up your end of the deal.

And sorry, I can't remember it. Tell me the joke again so I can have another laugh. You know that if you claim any sort of higher education it will only make you look worse. Anything over the easiest of undergraduate degrees means that your school should be suing you for defamation.

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