Evolution vs. Creation

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118481 Jul 18, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Angles are part of Geometry and vice versa.
Yeah thanks Chuck.

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#118482 Jul 18, 2014
wondering wrote:
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I will apologize for those comments but take note I was not the one that brought up porn or splooge. I got caught up in sub and dans game. Acting the same as them is being no better than them. Sorry JM I will try to refrain from doing so again in the future.
Huh? I thought you were trying to act like Bohart, except he wouldn't apologize.

“The strength of science is”

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founded in facts.

#118483 Jul 18, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Sorry.
Iím away in a moment, have a good weekend
No worries. Have a good weekend.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#118485 Jul 18, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Big chief say how no who , come to pow wow, we eat mushroom and see why.
Me let a squaw explain it, you wobble knee the round eye.
We cook food now, you eat yes? lol
Lol, good Indian, but that last line seemed more Russian!

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#118486 Jul 18, 2014
wondering wrote:
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I will apologize for those comments but take note I was not the one that brought up porn or splooge. I got caught up in sub and dans game. Acting the same as them is being no better than them. Sorry JM I will try to refrain from doing so again in the future.
Thank you.

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#118490 Jul 18, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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If you accept evolution then what are you doing here with a name like HOG?
Why does it matter what name I use here?

And by the way; has evolution demonstrated that there is no God?

I cant see the meaning of that question you asked.
Subduction Zone wrote:
But at least it is good to know that you accept the theory of evolution.
I dont accept nor reject anything; I use whatever works as long as it works.

I dont waste my mental capacity hugging on to any particular concept, because at the end of the day, they are nothing but mere rationalizations.
Subduction Zone wrote:
If you want to pretend your invisible friend had a hand in man's evolution it does not bother me.
I'm touched.
Subduction Zone wrote:
Of course we all know that the Adam and Eve myth is bogus. It is a story of a corrupt religion. Thankfully most Christians don't give it anything more than lip service.
Most Christians that YOU know, to be accurate.

Leave it to your kind to make hasty generalizations.

Furthermore, we know that "Muppet" monsters and "Big Birds" are not real; yet they are used to teach the young about reality.

So all you have just said translates to: "I dont know what it means so it must not mean anything".

“See how you are?”

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#118491 Jul 18, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
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...
I'm touched.
...

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obviously
In some dialects it's pronounced "tetched."

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#118492 Jul 18, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Who needs a study to point out the obvious?
What a question.

Yet it seems that no amount of studying will ever bring you to know the obvious.

LOL

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#118493 Jul 18, 2014
wondering wrote:
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god has a conscious? how does that work when he lets so many suffer starving and so many suffer from disease and then let so many die die young from both all the time. he consciously does all that on purpose?
There is no need for God to be the cause of all that.

The moment mankind begins to act contrary to the principles upon which reality is structured; his life becomes a living hell.

Furthermore, the morality of God has nothing to do with the existence of God, which is actually what we are discussing here: God as creator (or not).

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#118494 Jul 18, 2014
bohart wrote:
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Since when do you believe in Christ?
That person to whom you were responding seems a bit confused as to what exactly he/she believes.

If I remember correctly, that person commented that they DID believe in God; though the evidence for God thus far is inconclusive (his/her suggestion).

So I am still here wondering what exactly is that person's stance; and why.

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#118495 Jul 18, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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obviously
In some dialects it's pronounced "tetched."
I'm glad to see you too Chromium...

What baseless conclusion regarding the Bible and/or God shall you jump to today?

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#118496 Jul 18, 2014
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>whyouldn't anyone not believe in jesus, he was areal jew preaching to other jews to uphold the laws of moses even more, and that the kingdom of god was the twelve tribes of israel once again ruling over judea, once again ethnically cleansed of all but the jews.
why would anyone have trouble believing that? so many other messiahs at the time were recorded preaching the same thing...
history is fun!
Cut the crap.

There is a difference between believing THAT and believing IN.

Just because you believe THAT Jesus is real doesnt mean you believe IN the potentials of Jesu/s.

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#118497 Jul 18, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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...They think they ARE God, though they pretend otherwise.
Explain how you came to that conclusion.

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#118498 Jul 18, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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That's like saying you're a kind of atom...
How is it like that?

Explain.

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#118499 Jul 18, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
...The reason why this doesn't happen is because of natural selection....
So what caused natural selection?

What did natural selection evolve from?
wondering

Sunset, TX

#118500 Jul 18, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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And yet you started the whole thing.
Don't try to play innocent when you were the initial instigator.
lying ljackass wagon. i said i had to go see about a problem at one of the theaters and you came back with the "porn" comments then the "splooge comments..

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#118501 Jul 18, 2014
messianic114 wrote:
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... I have asked for why I should believe science but when we get to the part where I want to discuss, there is very little offered by those in here that can even give me confidence they know what they are talking about as they really don't understand the science themselves...
I agree with that remark.

I mentioned in a previous post that there are questions that will inevitably lead to metaphysics, as soon as the question is asked: "why does science work?"

They cant justify their confidence in science nor the claim that scientific method is efficient.

They go as far as denying the value of philosophy when philosophy is at the heart of science.

Take REALISM for example.

Science relies on the philosophy described in realism to justify the claims of empirical-ness of evidence.

But get them to come to terms with it if you can.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#118502 Jul 18, 2014
wondering wrote:
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lying ljackass wagon. i said i had to go see about a problem at one of the theaters and you came back with the "porn" comments then the "splooge comments..
You total idiot. You started this whole nonsense long before the splooge comments. You left yourself open and I gave you a shot.

You can dish it out but you cannot take it.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#118503 Jul 18, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
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What a question.
Yet it seems that no amount of studying will ever bring you to know the obvious.
LOL
Nice try, but what I claimed was obviously true and has been observed by many. Do you have to tell someone that dropping a 50 pound lead weigh on a bare foot is a bad idea?

Some ideas are obvious, that is to all but those that believe in a book of magic.

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#118504 Jul 18, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Since it's dishonest for creationists to ask for evidence at all, why do you desire to make your position look even MORE stupid than it already is?
Do you have evidence they aren't fabricated?
Is evidence capable of proving anything with absolute certainty?

Even when all the evidence suggests that a criminal is guilty of charges laid against him; is it not possible to argue that the evidence is actually suggesting something else?

Does evidence directly connecting a subject to any event or process make it impossible assume that the evidence points to something contrary?

NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE CAN CONVINCE ANYONE WHO CHOOSES NOT TO BELIEVE.

So stop pretending as if the failure to present evidence is the main reason for you so called skepticism (if it can be called that).

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