Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 199447 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#118216 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are the one moving the goal post here. Northern European language you claimed originated the English language, came from some where as well. So, it did not started there from your own premises.
I am not fluent in stupid, can you repeat that slowly and clearly

I have never claim any language was originated, that was you so don’t frigging lie just to save face and embarrassment

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#118217 Jul 16, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
This argument is as stupid as claiming that there cannot be any Europeans anymore since Americans are descended from Europeans.
For speciation to occur first two different groups must undergo some sort of separation. Given enough time the two separate groups will evolve into different species. We can observe that occurring today.
Now what are some of these supposed "holes" in the theory of evolution?
I am betting that they are only holes in your understanding of the theory at best.
So every living thing that seemingly experienced speciation, had separation? That is a lot of separating and a lot of mutating. Were humans deported and the monkeys stayed? Where are the remnant populations of intermediate species, or at leat their remains? The charts showing the "in betweens" that have no evidence or the ones based off one partial skeleton are funny to me. What if the one skeleton they find is the one freak of the tribe with a defect or genetic disease etc? Or a chimpanzee skull mixed with human bones...

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#118218 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> What question?
Answer the question posted to you.
If you don’t know your own question then why would you even comprehend an answer?

But here is one

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#118219 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> What the hell do you mean by your side? What side do you have?
You claimed it began in Northern Europe, and i have shown it to you that, the English or Anglo Saxon also came from that part.
The side that said the English language ‘developed’ in England from various sources (including Northern European, Latin, Greek and others)

As oppose to your side that said the English language ‘originated‘ in England.

Or are you now denying that you claimed, repeatedly, argumentatively, aggressively even threateningly for the last 2 years that English language originated in England?

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#118220 Jul 16, 2014
Naughtyrobot wrote:
<quoted text>So every living thing that seemingly experienced speciation, had separation? That is a lot of separating and a lot of mutating. Were humans deported and the monkeys stayed? Where are the remnant populations of intermediate species, or at leat their remains? The charts showing the "in betweens" that have no evidence or the ones based off one partial skeleton are funny to me. What if the one skeleton they find is the one freak of the tribe with a defect or genetic disease etc? Or a chimpanzee skull mixed with human bones...
Remnant population of intermediate species?

You have no concept of time, no comprehension of the evolutionary process, you ignore common facts, and you ignore scientific knowledge (while actually using scientific knowledge to put on your show of ignorance)

It is clear that you have either not understood a word that SZ has said, or your have deliberately ignored it. I am not sure if you employ natural or deliberate ignorance, either way it is ignorance.
TurkanaBoy

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#118221 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Open your blind folded eyes. English was started in England by English or Anglo Saxons primarily known as the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes.
Those left behind in Northern Europe originated the German, Dutch, and Danish languages. Do your research.
No new information.
No further argumentation.
Just repeating the same mantra.

You are found wrong on this.
You didn't address that.

Hence move on, don't waste our time OR provide some RELEVANT and SUBSTANTIAL arguments.

Anglo-Saxon DID NOT start in England, it started in Denmark and northern Germany. PERIOD.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118222 Jul 16, 2014
Shockalocka wrote:
This is more simple than some want to believe. If ppl evolve explain the last 2000 plus years. Surly something would have changed. In that time period ppl have traveled all around the world. Please explain?
They have changed. People live longer, some have adapted to higher altitudes, developed disease resistance, etc.

But sorry, nobody's developed a set of antennae on their heads yet.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118223 Jul 16, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
i would call it the fundies getting slaughtered. more like they get tired of the iidiot jack wagons disrespect, name calling, ranting, belittling, whining and demands but not meeting demands when put back upon them.
and yes i did look up ranting fits,,, you are the poster child for that.
Like I said, you got selective eyesight. Now gimme another irony meter.

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#118224 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not fluent in stupid, can you repeat that slowly and clearly
I have never claim any language was originated, that was you so don’t frigging lie just to save face and embarrassment
Let me remind you, your Norhern European trash, have you forgotten that?
TurkanaBoy

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#118225 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
The side that said the English language ‘developed’ in England from various sources (including Northern European, Latin, Greek and others)
As oppose to your side that said the English language ‘originated‘ in England.
Or are you now denying that you claimed, repeatedly, argumentatively, aggressively even threateningly for the last 2 years that English language originated in England?
BESIDES, the language that we call Old-English is a synonymy of Anglo-Saxon, they are just two words for the same thing. Anglo-Saxon ORIGINATED in the areas of nowadays Denmark and northern Germany. If modern English developed out of Anglo-Saxon, including all the various sources of the language development, it HENCE originates from Denmark and northern Germany as a logical consequence of the origin of Anglo-Saxon.

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#118226 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
The side that said the English language ‘developed’ in England from
various sources (including Northern European, Latin, Greek and others)
As oppose to your side that said the English language ‘originated‘ in
England.
Or are you now denying that you claimed, repeatedly, argumentatively,
aggressively even threateningly for the last 2 years that English
language originated in England?
English started in England,Yes.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118227 Jul 16, 2014
wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
but then again what do i know. i see that a circle is one dimensional, i see the bible was poorly translated, i don't "believe" in evolution but i "support" evolution, i don't compare the knowledge of 5000 years ago to today's knowledge and call them wrong in what they were thinking at the time, i don't see creationists as stupid but i see them as naive and holding to their faith(fear of change), i see man/science does not know near as much as we think we do, i see that many times here in the forum/thread that shown points will be battled with a strawman argument just for the sake of arguing and finally making the person or people just say fck it and leave. we all see things differently and most of the regs here only see things one way, their way and that is that and the other regs will even back up a reg when he is clearly wrong.
i see much more but what is the point of saying what i see when it doesn't matter.
Yeah, exactly. Whaddya you know? It doesn't matter.

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#118228 Jul 16, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
The side that said the English language ‘developed’ in England from
various sources (including Northern European, Latin, Greek and others)
As oppose to your side that said the English language ‘originated‘ in
England.
Or are you now denying that you claimed, repeatedly, argumentatively,
aggressively even threateningly for the last 2 years that English
language originated in England?
Yes, they do develop, but since they are now independent languages from the original, you can not ascribe the origin from the original, but to the newly established language.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118229 Jul 16, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
That's a damn lie! you are a liar . I have never claimed to be a Christian . Its your assumption based on the fact I don't believe in a puddle of primordial goo springing to life. Its you that brought up Christ , not me! As you said , this is a science forum, so why are you the one to bring up Christ ?
Who cares what your beliefs are? They never mattered in the first place.(shrug)

But the fact of the matter is that you're quite obviously a theist with a reality denial complex, and any time you claim otherwise, that means you're a lying sack of crud. Just like any other fundie.

Otherwise you would have been able to refute us by now.

P.s. The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.

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#118230 Jul 16, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
<quoted text>
No new information.
No further argumentation.
Just repeating the same mantra.
You are found wrong on this.
You didn't address that.
Hence move on, don't waste our time OR provide some RELEVANT and SUBSTANTIAL arguments.
Anglo-Saxon DID NOT start in England, it started in Denmark and northern Germany. PERIOD.
Total crap!
Anglo Saxons are also known as the English. There was nothing like England, before the English or the Anglo Saxons came. Until you understand that. Keep on ranting.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#118231 Jul 16, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Dummy, its a joke!
Indeed you are.
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
You too can return to the anal cavity from whence you were spewed.
Don't like us? Go away then. We don't FORCE you to come here. Put up or shut up. Alternatively you are free to refute me at any time you like.

Take your time.

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#118232 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Let me remind you, your Norhern European trash, have you forgotten that?
Say what?

Your wet dreams are you own problem, you consider northern Europeans to be trash then that is down to your own bigoted racism. And we know you are a racist moron by the way you have attacked my ancestry.

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#118233 Jul 16, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
<quoted text>
BESIDES, the language that we call Old-English is a synonymy of Anglo-Saxon, they are just two words for the same thing. Anglo-Saxon ORIGINATED in the areas of nowadays Denmark and northern Germany. If modern English developed out of Anglo-Saxon, including all the various sources of the language development, it HENCE originates from Denmark and northern Germany as a logical consequence of the origin of Anglo-Saxon.
Of course, as the great god Charlie Idiot has so much difficulty in understanding

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#118234 Jul 16, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> English started in England,Yes.
Round and round we go

Back to the beginning...

No it started in northern Europe, it developed in the British Isles

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#118235 Jul 16, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
<quoted text>
BESIDES, the language that we call Old-English is a synonymy of
Anglo-Saxon, they are just two words for the same thing. Anglo-Saxon
ORIGINATED in the areas of nowadays Denmark and northern Germany. If
modern English developed out of Anglo-Saxon, including all the various
sources of the language development, it HENCE originates from Denmark
and northern Germany as a logical consequence of the origin of
Anglo-Saxon.
Nope.
The same people mixing with the locals they met, founded the German, English, and Danish language. Until you understand that, keep on trolling.

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