Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222728 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117102 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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standards are limits. science is limited. we have never "observed evidence of non-human to human evolution, step by step, all steps of the way"
to say we have observed non-human to human evolution is nothing more than a word game with idiots. similarities have been observed and that is all. it may be 80% similarities in the fossil record but that is still not actually observing non-human to human evolution.
creationists say that observes nothing but past fossils, which in a way is true. but those fossils tell a partial story(not full story) from the past up to the present.
again i say the alphabet is complete observed when it is a-z. missing any letter/letters makes it an incomplete alphabet. no matter how much it resembles an alphabet, it is only observed similar to an alphabet.
Again, you are not the one that sets the standards on what is observation. Where ate the day by day photographs of you? That is a ridiculous request I made, you should have recognized it as such. Just as your step by step is a ridiculous request. The fossil record is by its nature fragmentary. We will never have a step by step picture. But every new fossil found makes the picture clearer. And more important each fossil found supports the theory of evolution.

You don't get to set the standards. Now they may not be high enough for you, but all that means is that you are a lying creatard and nothing more.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117103 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Moron, that same evidence says that we share a common ancestor with other apes.
So if you want to claim DNA evidence proves that you are the person born form your mother then you affirm human evolution.
What a Maroon!
do you share chimpanzee dna or does yours and the chimpanzee's dna have similarities?
wondering

Morris, OK

#117104 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
I like how wondering, who accused me of "weaseling out" has shown himself to be a first class weasel.
i call it follow by example. i am following your example. again i will tell you, you will get what you pay for. so far you are still way in debt and are owed nothing.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117105 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Again, you are not the one that sets the standards on what is observation. Where ate the day by day photographs of you? That is a ridiculous request I made, you should have recognized it as such. Just as your step by step is a ridiculous request. The fossil record is by its nature fragmentary. We will never have a step by step picture. But every new fossil found makes the picture clearer. And more important each fossil found supports the theory of evolution.
You don't get to set the standards. Now they may not be high enough for you, but all that means is that you are a lying creatard and nothing more.
i don't need photographs.journals or daily records. I have my parents dna and my own dna. that is all the evidence i need to show i was birthed from them. you just don't get it do you?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117106 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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98% of our dna is "similar" with that of chimpanzees. we do not share dna with them. see how that similarities works yet. all/most dna are similar to each other in one form or another.
Wrong, it is beyond similar:

Here is one article that points out that we are more than 98% "identical (their wording not mine). They point out that the biggest differences are in noncoding regions of the genome, those areas are commonly known as "junk DNA".:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/...

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117107 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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i don't need photographs.journals or daily records. I have my parents dna and my own dna. that is all the evidence i need to show i was birthed from them. you just don't get it do you?
I get it, I get it much more than you do.

The exact same science says that we are related to chimps, What part don't you get.

You shot yourself in the foot by going to DNA, I agree with your claims on how your DNA shows that you are the offspring of your parents. It will also show that you are related to your brothers, to your cousins. To ever more and more distant relatives and even to chimpanzees.

What part don't you get?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117108 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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i call it follow by example. i am following your example. again i will tell you, you will get what you pay for. so far you are still way in debt and are owed nothing.
And once again you show that you are a lying moron that has nothing.

Don't worry ass, we all know that you don't have a thing to back up your ridiculous beliefs that even you are afraid to post.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117109 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
You try to deny human evolution and yet claim that you are not a creationist. I don't think that you are fooling anyone.
again another lie from you. show where i have tried to deny or did deny evolution.
you are nothing but a lying jack wagon.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117110 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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do you share chimpanzee dna or does yours and the chimpanzee's dna have similarities?
You do realize that there are different ways to compare DNA. Standards are different for populations and for individuals. You will find far more alleles in a population than you will find in an individual. When comparing populations alleles are compared.

You show your dishonesty again by trying to use an incorrect comparison.

Hmm, it looks like all of wonderings claims about others are mere projections of his own faults. In other words, though we may not know what a "jack wagon" is we can rest assured that wondering is one.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117111 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You do realize that there are different ways to compare DNA. Standards are different for populations and for individuals. You will find far more alleles in a population than you will find in an individual. When comparing populations alleles are compared.
You show your dishonesty again by trying to use an incorrect comparison.
Hmm, it looks like all of wonderings claims about others are mere projections of his own faults. In other words, though we may not know what a "jack wagon" is we can rest assured that wondering is one.
you show your dodging cowardly way again.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117112 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong, it is beyond similar:
Here is one article that points out that we are more than 98% "identical (their wording not mine). They point out that the biggest differences are in noncoding regions of the genome, those areas are commonly known as "junk DNA".:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/...
they also use "largely identical" here is this too but then again they also use "differences" which goes back to similarities.

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-gene-differences...

by the way book mark this site. it is an very good site.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117113 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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you show your dodging cowardly way again.
Wrong moron, you used an inappropriate test, I explained why it is inappropriate.

Try again.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117114 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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again another lie from you. show where i have tried to deny or did deny evolution.
you are nothing but a lying jack wagon.
Sure you have.

You aren't fooling anyone here.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117115 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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You do realize that there are different ways to compare DNA. Standards are different for populations and for individuals. You will find far more alleles in a population than you will find in an individual. When comparing populations alleles are compared.
You show your dishonesty again by trying to use an incorrect comparison.
Hmm, it looks like all of wonderings claims about others are mere projections of his own faults. In other words, though we may not know what a "jack wagon" is we can rest assured that wondering is one.
Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.(source)
http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020730.ht...

Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.(source)
http://genome.cshlp.org/content/17/11/1675.fu...

Cows (Bos taurus) are 80% genetically similar to humans (source)
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/324/5926/52...

75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans (source), 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome (source) 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v420/n69...

The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans (source).
http://www.genome.gov/10005835

About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene (source)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/...

all dna show "similarities" in one form or another.
wondering

Morris, OK

#117116 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Sure you have.
You aren't fooling anyone here.
then show it. you have already shown your words are lies and can not be taken truthfully.

“ad victoriam”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#117117 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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step by step, all steps along the way is observed non-human to human evolution. we have never observed that. we have however observed similarities in the fossil record and in molecular biology and that is it.
if you want to lie to support your claim, evolution and science that is up to you. i will see you no different than a lying creationists.
Damn son, wth do you need?
To hold hands with a hominid for a million years as it transforms into human?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117118 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.(source)
http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020730.ht...
Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.(source)
http://genome.cshlp.org/content/17/11/1675.fu...
Cows (Bos taurus) are 80% genetically similar to humans (source)
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/324/5926/52...
75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans (source), 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome (source) 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v420/n69...
The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans (source).
http://www.genome.gov/10005835
About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene (source)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/...
all dna show "similarities" in one form or another.
And what does the theory of evolution predict about these percentages of similarity? Why it predicts exactly what you posted. Nice job, you just shot yourself in the foot again.

With enemies like wondering who needs friends?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#117119 Jul 6, 2014
wondering wrote:
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then show it. you have already shown your words are lies and can not be taken truthfully.
Nope, first you must fess up.

What are you afraid of?
wondering

Morris, OK

#117120 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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And what does the theory of evolution predict about these percentages of similarity? Why it predicts exactly what you posted. Nice job, you just shot yourself in the foot again.
With enemies like wondering who needs friends?
i just shown you how all dna is similar. not "shared" but "similar"
wondering

Morris, OK

#117122 Jul 6, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Nope, first you must fess up.
What are you afraid of?
i call it follow by example. i am following your example. again i will say, you will get what you pay for. so far you have payed for nothing. you have earned nothing. you are still way in debt and are owed nothing.

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