Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223290 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#114496 Jun 17, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>I read about an experiment where a pressure tank with a pop-off valve was filled with water and a piece of aluminum foil and some lye was added. A reaction caused the pop-off valve to open and the pure hydrogen which escaped could be burned. If you can separate the hydrogen and oxygen, then YES water burns.
The hydrogen burnt not the water.
Water is used to extinguish fires.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#114497 Jun 17, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't propaganda. It is the truth that Americans are dumb. I already met some Americans and they were dumb as hell.
Only Brits are more stupid.
Some of the nations from most to least intelligent:
Germany/ Austria
German Switzerland
Japan
Korea
...
France
some Arabic countries
Turkey
...
Usa
Britain
Yeah, we've been down this road with you already Stolz, your 'Better-than-thou' attitude is getting old. Anything else you'd like to address before we begin to completely ignore you?

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#114498 Jun 17, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
So natural selection is a tendency for the inadequate to perish?
Over time, yes, unless they evolve into a better suited species.

“ad victoriam”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#114500 Jun 17, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't propaganda. It is the truth that Americans are dumb. I already met some Americans and they were dumb as hell.
Only Brits are more stupid.
Some of the nations from most to least intelligent:
Germany/ Austria
German Switzerland
Japan
Korea
...
France
some Arabic countries
Turkey
...
Usa
Britain
Cite sources.
Asians are currently no.1 followed by more Asians followed by even more Asians.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#114501 Jun 17, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
HOG
The evolutionist has two primary agendas
1. Removing Judeo Christian thought from planet Earth by any means necessary
2. Gaining credibility for their scientific studies so they can get a University Grant for research.
Those are powerful motivations for religious and economic gain.
WHAT about the fossil stratification, deceiver and tattler?
Are fish still running faster than plants? And plants swimming faster than coral?

Dodge, duck, dodge, duck.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#114502 Jun 17, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you not read? What is exact is that I wrote “Creation and evolution are two separate concepts.”
So where do you understand “two separate concepts” is meaning the same as “they are part of the other”?
Also you claimed “reproduction is a process of creation”. Note the word order.
So in fact not exactly but 100% opposite.
I stand corrected. I repeat, reproduction is a process of creation , while evolution is not. Evolution can never function independently without passing through the creation process. I don' nt care what you think.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#114503 Jun 17, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
HOG
The evolutionist has two primary agendas
1. Removing Judeo Christian thought from planet Earth by any means necessary
2. Gaining credibility for their scientific studies so they can get a University Grant for research.
Those are powerful motivations for religious and economic gain.
1. Except that MOST Christians *ARE* "evolutionists". And a great number of scientists that accept and are further studying evolution are Christians. Facts you fail to remember.

2. And if "evolutionists" were REALLY out for money, they'd be Creationists, or Intelligent Designers, and be selling books and speaking engagements to gullible people like you.

“It is what it is”

Level 5

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#114504 Jun 17, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't propaganda. It is the truth that Americans are dumb. I already met some Americans and they were dumb as hell.
Only Brits are more stupid.
Some of the nations from most to least intelligent:
Germany/ Austria
German Switzerland
Japan
Korea
...
France
some Arabic countries
Turkey
...
Usa
Britain
Hey Adolph,,, Yes I called you Adolph for like him you think you are better than everyone else when you are not. You say Korea, do mean North or South? You do know there is a North and South Korea don't you?

I've got some bad news for ya,,,,,,,Germany does not even come up in the top 15

1. Canada
2. Israel
3. Japan
4. USA
5. New Zealand
6. South Korea
7. UK, Norway, Finland & Australia
8. Ireland and Estonia
9. Switzerland and Luxembourg
10. Denmark

http://www.toptenfamous.com/list-of-10-world-...

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#114505 Jun 17, 2014
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the one with a reading problem is you. As I said and will say again(pay attention this time) "but to be sure there is no misunderstanding here, none of that means a world wide flood is/was possible. All I am saying is there is more water under us than we ever thought
Quite right.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#114506 Jun 17, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't propaganda. It is the truth that Americans are dumb. I already met some Americans and they were dumb as hell.
Only Brits are more stupid.
Some of the nations from most to least intelligent:
Germany/ Austria
German Switzerland
Japan
Korea
...
France
some Arabic countries
Turkey
...
Usa
Britain
Who cares about your stupid opinion.

Since: Nov 07

St. James, NY

#114507 Jun 17, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not only good in physics and mathematics. I am either good in psychology and I know the concept of 'confirmation bias' very well. Actually I am just average in mathematics, physics and psychology in Germany but abroad I am a genius.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with anything I had to say. You might very well be a bright young kid. You certainly have the attitude of an intelligent youth who thinks they know everything and has everything figured out (in a way reminding me of me at that age). So far in these forums, however, you have shown yourself to just be an angsty youngster who attacks anyone and everyone, even if they are on your side of the overall Evolution/Creationism debate. You have mistakenly called several people American who were not and you exhibit an elitist and superior attitude that you have not earned. You gauge and group people by their nationality, culture or affiliation and not by any real measure of intelligence or worth. You are bigoted and, quite frankly, ignorant. National pride is fine, Germany has a lot to be proud of. I'm of German descent myself and still have relatives back there. But national pride is different from national hubris, the Germans out of anyone should know the danger of racial and cultural elitism.

I don't care how smart you think you are, you need to grow up, son.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114508 Jun 17, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Can/ does it occur independently or dependently with or without creation?
If by "creation" you mean "made by invisble magic Jews", well it certainly appears so so far. Especially since you haven't been able to show this creator of yours even exists.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114509 Jun 17, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
HOG
The evolutionist has two primary agendas
1. Removing Judeo Christian thought from planet Earth by any means necessary
2. Gaining credibility for their scientific studies so they can get a University Grant for research.
1 - That would certainly surprise the likes of Francis Collins and Ken Miller. After all, evolution is not atheism.

2 - They tend to be fairly successful at that, since grants are not often given out to support theories which never work. Some strange capitalist idea about seeing returns on their investments and all that, but my guess your economic education probably amounts to "COMMIES EVIL LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!"
SevenTee wrote:
Those are powerful motivations for religious and economic gain.
Actually science, although it CAN pay well, is NOT the most lucrative of carreers. And as for religious gain? Well you've seen how much the religious flock care about or pay attention to science.

(Hint - not very)
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114510 Jun 17, 2014
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the one with a reading problem is you. As I said and will say again(pay attention this time) "but to be sure there is no misunderstanding here, none of that means a world wide flood is/was possible. All I am saying is there is more water under us than we ever thought
That's nice. Now show us that Venus has as much life as Earth and maybe you'll have a point. Until then life could not survive a global flood.

Unless of course you happen to have the assistance of an invisible magic Jew, or Captain Kirk.

“It is what it is”

Level 5

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#114511 Jun 17, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
If by "creation" you mean "made by invisble magic Jews", well it certainly appears so so far. Especially since you haven't been able to show this creator of yours even exists.
Where do you get the ideal that God is a Jew?
deutscher Stolz

Osnabrück, Germany

#114512 Jun 17, 2014
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Adolph,,, Yes I called you Adolph for like him you think you are better than everyone else when you are not. You say Korea, do mean North or South? You do know there is a North and South Korea don't you?
I've got some bad news for ya,,,,,,,Germany does not even come up in the top 15
1. Canada
2. Israel
3. Japan
4. USA
5. New Zealand
6. South Korea
7. UK, Norway, Finland & Australia
8. Ireland and Estonia
9. Switzerland and Luxembourg
10. Denmark
http://www.toptenfamous.com/list-of-10-world-...
lol These criteria are ridiculous. They just looked at the number of University degrees. This say nothing. Germany is famous for it's high quality 'ausbildung' and we have 'fachhochschulen' which is a Germany only concept. There is no need for many Germans to go to the University for getting high education.
Besides a degree in subjects like art or Music has not much to do with intelligent.

look at this:
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/05/18...
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114513 Jun 17, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
Answering a question with a question, eh?
There goes another irony meter.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114514 Jun 17, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
Before you get to "If you refer to the fact of God's existence then unfortunately you have yet to demonstrate that": deal with:
1. Is looking for evidence that someone said something, the same as looking for evidence that a vehicle has passed a particular spot?
2. Do words have the same effects as tire tracks?
3. Do words leave impressions on the ground like tire tracks?
4. Do we not know that when looking for evidence of things, it is the nature of the thing that determines how that thing will/can be investigated?
I ahve structured them such that a simple yes/no will be sufficient.
That's nice. So cut the BS and get to the point already.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#114515 Jun 17, 2014
HOG_ the Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay.
So are we and our intelligence separate from the universe?
Is our intelligence the product of natural forces in nature, or outside/beyond of nature?
No, our intelligence is inside the universe, a product of natural forces in nature.

You sure do like to drag stuff out, eh.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#114516 Jun 17, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
If by "creation" you mean "made by invisble magic Jews", well it certainly appears so so far. Especially since you haven't been able to show this creator of yours even exists.
Don' t forget that I was only asking you a question. Now back to the question. Ofcourse, God Almighty do exist.

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