Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222780 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#113891 Jun 11, 2014
replaytime wrote:
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You are just pissed because we made you pay for yours.
Agreed.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#113892 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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Some day you will pay for your crimes
Just gotta check - you're not the guy who played keyboard for Sparks, are ya?

If so I'm gonna PM the PM and recommend he puts in an order for some more Spitfires.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#113893 Jun 11, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Far from guessing. So, tell us, who made the earth?
The God answer fits in.
"God" is an answer in the same way "Pork Chop" is an answer. Neither "answer" explains anything

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#113894 Jun 11, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>Just gotta check - you're not the guy who played keyboard for Sparks, are ya?

If so I'm gonna PM the PM and recommend he puts in an order for some more Spitfires.
Next time, we'll let Russia take Germany like they wanted to.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#113895 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Don't think we are all very happy about that.
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Everybody spies. Including Germany.
Yeah, but remember James Bond. Nobody does it better.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#113896 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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And lost. Twice. You should learn something from that.
...it WAS in all the papers.
deutscher Stolz

Osnabrück, Germany

#113897 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Opening can of worms...
And the Holocaust? That was the fault of Great Britain and France as well?
Of course it was.
Without Great Britain, Poland and France Nazis wouldn't come to power in Germany
deutscher Stolz

Osnabrück, Germany

#113898 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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And lost. Twice. You should learn something from that.
We hadn't any other chance than to fought against the criminal nations that envied our growing prosperity.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#113899 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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Of course it was.
Wow.
deutscher Stolz wrote:
Without Great Britain, Poland and France Nazis wouldn't come to power in Germany
And who put the Nazis in power? Were the British, the Poles and the French voting in those election? Get a grip.

I'm not going to suggest that the Allied Powers where always right nor we they always fair to Germany. But the German people need to own up to their own mistakes. They made their choices and they have to live with their sins.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#113900 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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We hadn't any other chance than to fought against the criminal nations that envied our growing prosperity.
Yeah, yeah. "Gott mit uns" and all that stuff.
deutscher Stolz

Osnabrück, Germany

#113901 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Wow.
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And who put the Nazis in power? Were the British, the Poles and the French voting in those election? Get a grip.
Of course Germans voted for the Nazis because they felt humiliated by France and Great (Little) Britain because of the treaty of Versaille and the occupation of the Rheinland. That are the main reasons for the vote for the Nazis and the second world war.
deutscher Stolz

Osnabrück, Germany

#113902 Jun 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Yeah, yeah. "Gott mit uns" and all that stuff.
Stop talking German. It is a language for decent people.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#113903 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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I know that people who don't have the luck to be born as a German are angry but that is destiny.
Way to go on the whole 'Superior Race' thing there Stolz. Nazi much?

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#113904 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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We hadn't any other chance than to fought against the criminal nations that envied our growing prosperity.
Johannes Petermann would have disagreed with you.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#113905 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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Stop talking German. It is a language for decent people.
Ich werde tun, was Ich mag.

And stop talking English, it's a language for reasonable people.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#113906 Jun 11, 2014
deutscher Stolz wrote:
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Of course Germans voted for the Nazis because they felt humiliated by France and Great (Little) Britain because of the treaty of Versaille and the occupation of the Rheinland. That are the main reasons for the vote for the Nazis and the second world war.
...and in much the same way, the indigenous Americans got what they had coming to them (near extinction) by being in our way -- on THEIR LAND -- early in America's history.

Note to ="deutscher Stolz": Look up "revisionist history".

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#113907 Jun 11, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Way to go on the whole 'Superior Race' thing there Stolz. Nazi much?
I would be willing to bet he's got a whole closet full of brown shirts.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#113908 Jun 11, 2014
replaytime wrote:
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Hey poly the other day I asked you if you thought there were other universe's. I believe you replied as of now there is no evidence of any(something like that so don't quote me. I'm not sure where I posted it at). Anyways I had a few questions about other universe's if they exist.
Since our universe is expanding in all directions don’t other universes’, if they exist, have to be getting further away? or
Since our universe is expanding, if there are other universes’, are they expanding as well (or shrinking) allowing for our universe expansion?
I don't expect an answer on things we don't know yet. They are just thoughts. But your thoughts would be appreciated.
I can answer based on the theories we have about multiple universes. Just keep in mind that these theories have not been tested, so ALL of this is speculative in the extreme.

The first thing to realize is that when we talk about a universe in this context, we mean the *whole thing* throughout time taken as a whole. So, all of space and time within a universe is taken to be a part of that universe. The expansion of, say, our universe simply describes what different cross-sections at different times look like. The universe as a whole consists of ALL of those time cross sections.

So, think of a trumpet. Close to the mouthpiece, the bell of the trumpet is small and it expands as we move away. yet the trumpet itself is one piece. If we think of time being the distance away from the mouthpiece, we have a one-dimensional (circular) expansion.

So this means that when you talk about the 'distance' between universes, you are comparing the distance between two trumpets. It makes some sense, but the expansion is not the relevant factor in the distances. If we think of the trumpets oriented in different directions, we can see the 'time' dimension of different universes doesn't even have to be in the same direction in the larger multi-verse. So comparing times or distances in different universes makes little sense.

One difficulty that many people have is thinking of ALL of time and space as a single unit and that time is part of the universe, not something external to it.

“All Is Possible”

Since: Jun 14

"In Nature's Beauty"

#113909 Jun 11, 2014
With all the disarray, I'm surprised you haven't been joined by the SD/PL group.

“Denny Crain”

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#113910 Jun 11, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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I can answer based on the theories we have about multiple universes. Just keep in mind that these theories have not been tested, so ALL of this is speculative in the extreme.
The first thing to realize is that when we talk about a universe in this context, we mean the *whole thing* throughout time taken as a whole. So, all of space and time within a universe is taken to be a part of that universe. The expansion of, say, our universe simply describes what different cross-sections at different times look like. The universe as a whole consists of ALL of those time cross sections.
So, think of a trumpet. Close to the mouthpiece, the bell of the trumpet is small and it expands as we move away. yet the trumpet itself is one piece. If we think of time being the distance away from the mouthpiece, we have a one-dimensional (circular) expansion.
So this means that when you talk about the 'distance' between universes, you are comparing the distance between two trumpets. It makes some sense, but the expansion is not the relevant factor in the distances. If we think of the trumpets oriented in different directions, we can see the 'time' dimension of different universes doesn't even have to be in the same direction in the larger multi-verse. So comparing times or distances in different universes makes little sense.
One difficulty that many people have is thinking of ALL of time and space as a single unit and that time is part of the universe, not something external to it.
Good morning Poly. I always love reading you. You have a talent for explaining things with a simple example. Thanks!

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