Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223360 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#113170 May 24, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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OK I will play....
The theory of Evolution violates The Second Law of Thermodynamics (law of increasing entropy) says that things which start out concentrated together spread out over time. If you heat one room in a house, then open the door to that room, eventually the temperature in the whole house evens out (reaches equilibrium). Knowing how far this evening-out has progressed at any point in time tells you the entropy. Entropy can measure the loss of a system's ability to do work. Entropy is also a measure of disorder, and that is where evolution theory hits an impenetrable wall. Natural processes proceed in only one direction, toward equilibrium and disorder. Things fall apart over time, they do not get more organized. We can overcome this by making a machine and adding energy, but the Second Law prevents such a machine from assembling spontaneously from raw materials.
Not the damn SLoT again??? Even AiG knows this is a crappy argument. GEEZ!
Camilla

Phoenix, AZ

#113187 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
Some typos crap. Any way the message, no matter what, has/ had been passed.
Creation, Evolution, God and
Global Warming -.

“ad victoriam”

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Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#113190 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> That is why many are called few are chosen. Even the bible said that. Many mortals will claim the status of God or god.
That you even believe yourself so much that,
It make's me laugh..

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#113191 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Boy, you are still not getting it. Despite that, science is still limited.
Why? Because humans are limited.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> 6Origination. Are you aa stubborn he Goat?
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> It started in England. Accept that.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Can you dictate to death when and when not to come?
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A heart of stone. An advice, don't think like a dummy.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then you don't know the meaning of God. God is not god or godess.
Babble

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verb - To Babble

verb: babble; 3rd person present: babbles; past tense: babbled; past participle: babbled; gerund or present participle: babbling

1. talk rapidly and continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way.
2. To utter a meaningless confusion of words or sounds:
3. To talk foolishly or idly; chatter
4. To make a continuous low, murmuring sound
5. To blurt out impulsively; disclose without careful consideration.

“See how you are?”

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Since: Jul 12

Earth

#113192 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lol
you mean you are a robot with no feelings?
No wonder!
You don't have any evidence to base your beliefs on. You've got happy, happy joy, joy feelings for an old book that's been repeatedly proven wrong - that's like feeling you're going to win tonight's lottery that isn't being held with a fake ticket from last year.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#113193 May 26, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You don't have any evidence to base your beliefs on. You've got happy, happy joy, joy feelings for an old book that's been repeatedly proven wrong - that's like feeling you're going to win tonight's lottery that isn't being held with a fake ticket from last year.
Well, that's about the odds of anyone winning a lottery...
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#113194 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Boy, you are still not getting it. Despite that, science is still limited.
Why? Because humans are limited.
Bla.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#113195 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Boy, you are still not getting it. Despite that, science is still limited.
Why? Because humans are limited.

Charles is a lot more limited than most.

“May you be at peace.”

Since: Nov 07

Mars

#113196 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God does not hide his existence. He has given to us a lot of evieence about his existence, some examples are the sun( how did it came?), moon, etc.
These things never came by accident.

Exactly how dumb are you?

You don't even know how stars and planetary objects form. Did you receive no education in your 3rd world country?

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Earth

#113197 May 26, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Well, that's about the odds of anyone winning a lottery...
Powerball odds are around one in 80 million. As near as anyone can tell, if you had 80 billion devout Christians spread over the course of 2000 years (starting with Paul), the odds one of them will actually meet Jesus is around zero in 80 billion.

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arte et marte

#113198 May 26, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Powerball odds are around one in 80 million. As near as anyone can tell, if you had 80 billion devout Christians spread over the course of 2000 years (starting with Paul), the odds one of them will actually meet Jesus is around zero in 80 billion.

But they seen each other in a dream!

Since: Apr 14

San German, Puerto Rico

#113199 May 26, 2014
PROFESSOR X wrote:
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I know ... but someones got to help him get back to reality. It's not an accident that Darwin's theory is defended more by books and movies of science-FICTION than the scientific evidence. Too bad many of these scientist hide behind their degrees and unproven press releases in order to create the illusion of being authoritative, meanwhile they are busy behind the scenes censoring any and all scientific evidence that challenges Darwin's theory from reaching the public. They are also censoring professors in universities from exposing any information to the public that threatens their little monkey fairy-tale.
The roles have been reversed. The atheist and evolutionist is today - what the Catholic Church was in the past. They hate scientific advance and would rather shut down public discussion before confronting evidence that proves that all life did not arise from one common ancestor.
That doesn't mean that the earth has to be 6000 year old. But isn't it amazing how humans were suppose to have evolved from Apes 3 million years ago, but there are organisms that are in rock strata dated over 300 million years old that are still ALIVE TODAY and they are unchanged? What's so special about us that it's necessary for evolutionists invent pseudo-science stories only fit for the Sci-Fi Channel?
Darwinism Destroyed by Geological Evidence & Anomalies
http://cross.tv/64437
Can you provide any evidence of the preposterous claims you make about scientists withholding evidence against Darwin's Theory of Evolution?

Since: Apr 14

San German, Puerto Rico

#113200 May 26, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Boy, you are still not getting it. Despite that, science is still limited.
Why? Because humans are limited.
I would be the first to admit that science is limited. It is limited by the limits of our powers of observation and the limits of our brains. And yet, science advances, while religions stay primitive and backward. I'll choose science over religion anytime!

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#113201 May 27, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> That is why you are a narrow minded idiot.
Wrong but hey, you are the great god charlie idiot so it is expected.

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#113203 May 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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At room temperature, water molecules are bouncing off each other and you have water. When you take away heat and they freeze, water molecules stick to each other with weak molecular bonds, forming ice crystals and snowflakes because of the shape of the H2O molecule. The same thing happens if you put a bunch of weak magnets in a jar and shake it. The magnets bounce around. When you stop, the magnets stick together. They are at a lower energy level. There is order, yet no complexity - just a simple repetitive structure that does not do anything.
Hey, you have something in common with a jar of magnets. You too are a simple, repetitive structure that does not do anything. Good for you.

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#113204 May 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
OK I will play....
The theory of Evolution violates The Second Law of Thermodynamics (law of increasing entropy) says that things which start out concentrated together spread out over time. If you heat one room in a house, then open the door to that room, eventually the temperature in the whole house evens out (reaches equilibrium). Knowing how far this evening-out has progressed at any point in time tells you the entropy. Entropy can measure the loss of a system's ability to do work. Entropy is also a measure of disorder, and that is where evolution theory hits an impenetrable wall. Natural processes proceed in only one direction, toward equilibrium and disorder. Things fall apart over time, they do not get more organized. We can overcome this by making a machine and adding energy, but the Second Law prevents such a machine from assembling spontaneously from raw materials.
Here we go again - another creationists who misunderstands the laws of thermodynamics.

What you said above is only true in an isolated system.

When energy (or mass) can enter and leave the system, none of what you said is true. The earth is an open system bathed in an energy flux from the sun. Never mind the living things, just look at a glacier. Even a glacier, in which water is taken from a high entropy liquid state in he sea, and stored at higher altitude in a lower entropy solid state, violates your claims above! And its just the natural behaviour of the weather patterns - air and water in an energy flux driven by the sun - that does that.

Now please do not do the knee-jerk thing and complain to me that glaciers are simpler than cells. YOU made specific claims above, and a glacier clearly violates them. The reason is an open energy source and sink - an energy flux.

Thus there are clearly things you do not understand about the laws of thermodynamics, and this is why no real physicists claim that the second law prevents evolution.

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#113205 May 28, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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At room temperature, water molecules are bouncing off each other and you have water. When you take away heat and they freeze, water molecules stick to each other with weak molecular bonds, forming ice crystals and snowflakes because of the shape of the H2O molecule. The same thing happens if you put a bunch of weak magnets in a jar and shake it. The magnets bounce around. When you stop, the magnets stick together. They are at a lower energy level. There is order, yet no complexity - just a simple repetitive structure that does not do anything.
Here is a simple one for you.

If the sun suddenly went black and no longer fed the earth its energy, what would happen to the Entropy of Earth?

Entropy would FALL, dramatically and spontaneously.
Ask any physicist.

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#113206 May 28, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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That you even believe yourself so much that,
It make's me laugh..
Likewise. It is a free world..

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#113207 May 28, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Babble
/&#712;babel/
verb - To Babble
verb: babble; 3rd person present: babbles; past tense: babbled; past participle: babbled; gerund or present participle: babbling
1. talk rapidly and continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way.
2. To utter a meaningless confusion of words or sounds:
3. To talk foolishly or idly; chatter
4. To make a continuous low, murmuring sound
5. To blurt out impulsively; disclose without careful consideration.
Stop the babbling. You may not agree with what i said based on personal issues, but that does not change the truth. No one can invalidate the existence of God.

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#113208 May 28, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Babble
/&#712;babel/
verb - To Babble
verb: babble; 3rd person present: babbles; past tense: babbled; past participle: babbled; gerund or present participle: babbling
1. talk rapidly and continuously in a foolish, excited, or incomprehensible way.
2. To utter a meaningless confusion of words or sounds:
3. To talk foolishly or idly; chatter
4. To make a continuous low, murmuring sound
5. To blurt out impulsively; disclose without careful consideration.
In summary:
Stop the gibberish.

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