Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 199457 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#113095 May 20, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Immer wieder?
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Not sure. It was a number of years ago. I think some news article had a link to it.
Yep same for me the Californian...
I had written something to them pressed sent and wham there I was the Footsteps of something...Immigration issues...

Do you remember what thread it tossed you in?

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#113096 May 20, 2014
Ey ...

See more news from the Us on topix also low cost gym equipment and low income housing always two highlights shower issues...

Home gym is: It holds the biggest toilet you have ever seen, it seats at least 5...

LOL

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#113097 May 20, 2014
Oh and nochmal not necessary always but again ...maybe until or something...

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#113098 May 20, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And God Almighty is the creator. Where is your evidence countering this statement? None.
Go home. The world and all its elements never evolved by accident.

Reality.

Nature is not an accident. It is natural.

Do the Klingons own the Klingon language?

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#113099 May 20, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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I'm going to have to correct you on this one. You are probably thinking about the point when radiation (light) and matter decoupled, allowing the light to move through the matter and obtaining a transparent universe. That is the era when the background radiation was formed.
But light (electromagnetic waves) definitely existed prior to that. In fact, it dominated the energy density of the universe at that point (now dark energy does--for a while matter did).

I myself seem to keep forgetting this. thanks for the reminder.

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#113100 May 20, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And you have no evidence what so ever to counter the existence of a Maker. The universe is not made by man, then who then made it?
Nothing can make it/ his/ her self. Can you?

You have no evidence to counter the creation of the FSM.

You like to make assertions you can't support.

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#113101 May 20, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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God or the Creator?

God deny's the existence of a creator. As she must.

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#113102 May 20, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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Shut up I am not...but then maybe I am I am not salad yet and walnuts I have not got...???
Yeah so then ?

Sorry Tinka. I am not sure if it is a language barrier or what, but many of your posts make no more sense than country music.

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#113103 May 20, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Alchemy was my favorite class in school!
Don't forget about the powers of blood-letting barbers

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#113104 May 20, 2014
Tinka wrote:
So what you proved I am not a vegetable...How are my marbles? Crystal balls?

I was thinking fruit more than vegetable anyway. Waldorf Salad is a nice mix.

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#113105 May 20, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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Yep same for me the Californian...
I had written something to them pressed sent and wham there I was the Footsteps of something...Immigration issues...
Do you remember what thread it tossed you in?
Most likely something to do with evolution. I almost never visit the other forums.

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#113106 May 20, 2014
Tinka wrote:
Ey ...
Home gym is: It holds the biggest toilet you have ever seen, it seats at least 5...
LOL
Lol, Germany has the worst public restroom facilities.

I was at the Munich Starkbierfest a few years back, and in the big General-Public Men's restroom there were several 55-gallon drums cut in half lengthwise laying side-by-side lengthwise along the floor (with drainage), where fest-goers peed from both sides of these drums. I'm OK with public urination, but I am NOT OK with the splash-n-spray. Was absolutely disguising. But after a half-dozen more liters of starkbier things were OK because people just peed where they stood. Best Bierfest ever.

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#113107 May 21, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Next up: The RATE project. Any bets?
You mean the project where they gave rocks to radiometric labs from recent lava flows, that accurately dated these 8 million year old inclusions embedded in the lava flows?

But they neglected to tell the labs that the rocks they gave were in fact inclusions and they knew it but did not divulge that? And then accused the labs of getting the dating wrong? And blathered it all over the Creatard-sphere, knowing that not one in 100 Creatards would look critically at what they actually did, but come away confident that they had "proven" radiometric dating does not work?

Yep, that one!

Its either that or he will confidently point out that carbon dating can give inaccurate results, blissfully unaware that carbon dating is not used on evolutionary timescales.

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#113108 May 21, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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175 c?
A European cookbook? I don't even know what that is, 350?
I have to try that maybe when I come across some Walnuts...Should have brought some nutties back with me graffiti;ing the wall....hahahahha
I'd call it the Berliner Loaf of Nuts straight from the Wall...BACK OFF, it's still warm...
Ahh, you still work in old money, 175C is about 350F

Funny, when I was a kid there was a lot of Fahrenheit but now in the UK we always work in Celsius except during high summer if the temperature gets above 27C then the weather programs seem to revert to Fahrenheit. 80 sounds better than 27 I suppose.

I always bring a couple of kilos (4.4 pounds) of walnuts back with me from France, they seem to taste better than the supermarket packets but what the heck, please try it, I think it’s a wonderful cake.

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#113109 May 21, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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JC! I'm just sitting on a diet!
Ahh, it’s very healthy, full of fruit and nuts, perfect for a diet if eaten in small quantities.

Problem is that it’s kind of difficult to eat small quantities.

Good to meet you TurkanaBoy

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#113110 May 21, 2014
Tinka wrote:
Oh I lied I said I was exiting and well I was not sitting in front of the computer and so sat down and page still up and all it takes is one click and but then oh my god then the ad will start up again...
And yeah what ever they say tune in no matter what and who has never answered the TV in their head...Guess what I am thinking???
Try “adblock”, https://adblockplus.org

It gets rid of those pesky ads and reduces your bandwidth usage by huge amounts

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#113111 May 21, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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AdBlock Plus works fine for me.
I do not begrudge most sites the right to run ads, but when the ads get obtrusive I have a tool that I can use on those sites.
Oh yeahhh

Is that great minds thinking alike or fools seldom differing

I’ve been using it for a while now.

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#113112 May 21, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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You mean the project where they gave rocks to radiometric labs from recent lava flows, that accurately dated these 8 million year old inclusions embedded in the lava flows?
But they neglected to tell the labs that the rocks they gave were in fact inclusions and they knew it but did not divulge that? And then accused the labs of getting the dating wrong? And blathered it all over the Creatard-sphere, knowing that not one in 100 Creatards would look critically at what they actually did, but come away confident that they had "proven" radiometric dating does not work?
Yep, that one!
Its either that or he will confidently point out that carbon dating can give inaccurate results, blissfully unaware that carbon dating is not used on evolutionary timescales.
Precisely!

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#113113 May 21, 2014
Not uneducated wrote:
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To start off with, you gave no evidence that those are myths.
Next, I am a young-earth creationist,(I wont go in to the massive reasons why) but I believe that the schools should teach evolution AND creation evenly and unbiased to either. Then the student can choose for themselves. Instead of stuffing it down their throat that evolution is true, we teach them both and let them decide.
I would also like to point out that you refer to science as opposed to creationism. Creationism is science. We may differ in views, but evolution is a scientific theory; creationism is scientific theory. Neither can be fully proven. Ever. They thought spontaneous generation was proven and obviously it wasnt. Evolutionists have made some great discoveries. But may I remind or inform you that so have creationists. Just as many. In fact, many of the great scientist have been creationists.
Next, you call it mythology, but mythology doesn't hold water and doesn't last. Creationism has been around for over a thousand years. That's not mythology. I agree thats not great proof, but just one beginning statement.
To follow up what I just said, the scientific method has never been proven wrong: Observations, Hypothesis, Lots of Experiments, Theory, Generations of Data, Law. Right? Well, a theory as big as the Theory if Evolution should have been tested for hundreds of years,consistently. Even it has(which is debatable), it needs more evidence to be considered a Law, a whole lot more. Creationism, like I said cant be proven, but there has been a lot more scientists and a lot more time.
Lastly, don't quote rock dating at me. It has been proven inaccurate over and over. I don't have time to go into it; but go to the Institute for Creation Research's website or Answers in Genesis's website and find it there.
I won't go into proving your statements wrong, it would take too much time and you probably wouldn't listen anyway. I just want to open your eyes and show that we aren't all Bible thumping idiots. It is despicable how few Christians know the Genesis story and the evidence behind it. But still, some of us are well-educated, and so I ask that you use real evidence. Sorry if anywhere I was unclear. Thanks for reading.
Oh no! you have awakened the defenders of the primordial sludge, the praetorian guard of the evo religion, watch how they now spew forth from their diseased pustules to rain insults and accusations upon you. Like ants attacking an invader they swarm with a maniacal frenzy hoping to squash even any questions about their faith.They are religious zealots whose anti God rhetoric is amazing, and whose faith in a life giving primordial goo is even more astounding. Good luck
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#113114 May 22, 2014
bohart wrote:
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Oh no! you have awakened the defenders of the primordial sludge, the praetorian guard of the evo religion, watch how they now spew forth from their diseased pustules to rain insults and accusations upon you. Like ants attacking an invader they swarm with a maniacal frenzy hoping to squash even any questions about their faith.They are religious zealots whose anti God rhetoric is amazing, and whose faith in a life giving primordial goo is even more astounding. Good luck
Oh hi Bozo. I see you still haven't been able to address any of our posts yet. Remember:

The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis. Also the theory of evolution makes no theological claims whatsoever, hence many Christians also accept evolution.

So you know your own rhetoric is extremely ironic, right?

Feel free to formulate a rebuttal at any time. Any time you like.

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