Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221445 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#112944 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Sorry, I will not make fun of your science fiction lessons any more
Science fiction? Well should be NO PROBLEM for you to demonstrate the fictitiousness, ISN'T IT?

WHERE are your substantiated, empirical arguments either through experiments or field observations by scientifically acknowledged experts on the matter (geologists, paleontologists) to back up your claim the observed fossil stratification the way specified in my previous post about that, is fiction?

Source references also obligatory.
And of course, 6th reminder, your sources on the fruit fly experiments as well.

I don't know if you already noticed, but I am just let you pulling your pants down for everyone to behold the poop and stink of your kindergarten farting.
FREE SERVANT

Hockessin, DE

#112945 May 18, 2014
An ordered and comprehensive configuration of natural markings are left to impart information.to inform living things and these go around a circular journey. A roundabout course is how nature works and circuits are formed into comprehensive assemblages and circuitry. These Systems,Cycles and Patterns are an Intelligent Design.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112946 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
An ordered and comprehensive configuration of natural markings are left to impart information.to inform living things and these go around a circular journey. A roundabout course is how nature works and circuits are formed into comprehensive assemblages and circuitry. These Systems,Cycles and Patterns are an Intelligent Design.
Yet none of this made up system has any evidence to support it. Why is that do you think?

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112947 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
All life on earth displays a certain ability to work and pass instructions of learned threats to successive generations. If a living thing can not continue to work within it's given environment, it may die and leave information to offspring to better adapt and change to continue to work within their kind of niche. Information is passed down as patterns which are cyclically left behind through rhythmic and entrained oscillations of strong and weak values. A natural system which is a circuit carries these instructions and life is caused and maintained through these systems which cycle to function according to the theory of SCPID.
So according to you acquired traits are passed down to offspring. So if the organism has already reproduced and then acquires these traits and reproduces again, only some of its offspring will have the traits? If a living thing dies due to a change in its environment, then how do the offspring survive the change? If it has information that could be passed on to its offspring that allows them to survive, then how come it dies?

Why does this not make any sense? Why does this not have any evidence to support it? Why does the evidence of molecular biology show that the information is passed from DNA to proteins and then expressed as the phenotype and not in the other direction as you claim?

Why does this sound like a made up, metaphysical, reaching for a solution that science has been explaining with evidence much more logically, reasonably and reproducibly?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112948 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I will not make fun of your science fiction lessons any more
He gave you the references that you asked for. Though much maligned Wikipedia is actually a very useful resource today. Most of the articles on science include links to their sources so if you doubt the story you can follow the links and see if it is valid or not.

Did you check the article that was linked for you? If so did you follow the links to its sources and see whether they were valid or not?

I am betting the answer is "No" to those questions. You are just another dishonest creationist that would rather lie for Jesus than to check out to see if your opposition was correct or not.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#112949 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
An ordered and comprehensive configuration of natural markings are left to impart information.to inform living things and these go around a circular journey. A roundabout course is how nature works and circuits are formed into comprehensive assemblages and circuitry. These Systems,Cycles and Patterns are an Intelligent Design.
Nope.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112951 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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references please
What for?

You're an anti-science liar for Jesus with zero education and doesn't care.

What possible use do you have for information you have no interest in and couldn't understand even if it was provided?

.

Last month you said you were gonna refute us. When are you gonna start?
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112952 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
One can not explain what was on earth millions of years ago and make generalizations about species changes over time.
You are delusional, most of the gaps you fill up are nothing but photoshop artwork.
Good luck with your complete lack of intermediate fossil records because you will need it
No generalizing needed. Why? Because the fossil record exists. It is directly observable. We KNOW (for example) there no people walking around with dinosaurs.

By the way, you're contradicting your own sources again. You keep saying there's no fossil record (even though there is) then you'll even present a creationist linky that mentions the fossil record (they just have a different - and false - interpretation of it).

Do please try to make up your mind. It MIGHT help you look less stupid.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112953 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Now we are getting to the bottom line.
Are you saying God did not create the world and everything in the world?
No. There's no scientific way to tell if such a thing exists, much less did anything.

All we're saying is that if something like that DOES exist, it used evolution.

Or it's a liar.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112954 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
An ordered and
Still don't care Mikey.
FREE SERVANT

Hockessin, DE

#112955 May 18, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>So according to you acquired traits are passed down to offspring. So if the organism has already reproduced and then acquires these traits and reproduces again, only some of its offspring will have the traits? If a living thing dies due to a change in its environment, then how do the offspring survive the change? If it has information that could be passed on to its offspring that allows them to survive, then how come it dies?
Why does this not make any sense? Why does this not have any evidence to support it? Why does the evidence of molecular biology show that the information is passed from DNA to proteins and then expressed as the phenotype and not in the other direction as you claim?
Why does this sound like a made up, metaphysical, reaching for a solution that science has been explaining with evidence much more logically, reasonably and reproducibly?
Plants pass this information down through the root system circuit and animals that do survive long enough to have off spring pass it to successive generations.
FREE SERVANT

Hockessin, DE

#112956 May 18, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
Why not?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112957 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, I will not make fun of your science fiction lessons any more
But they aren't fiction. They are verified scientific facts. The problem is that you disagree with the reality they show. That isn't a problem with science.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112958 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Now we are getting to the bottom line.
Are you saying God did not create the world and everything in the world?
The hypothesis of a deity is unnecessary to understand the origin of the earth and how life has changed over time. It may well be a true hypothesis, but it is untestable , so is irrelevant to science.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112959 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
All life on earth displays a certain ability to work and pass instructions of learned threats to successive generations. If a living thing can not continue to work within it's given environment, it may die and leave information to offspring to better adapt and change to continue to work within their kind of niche. Information is passed down as patterns which are cyclically left behind through rhythmic and entrained oscillations of strong and weak values. A natural system which is a circuit carries these instructions and life is caused and maintained through these systems which cycle to function according to the theory of SCPID.
Except, of course, that this is not how genetics actually works. Yes, there is information transfer from each generation to the next, but it is not information about acquired characteristics. Mammals do have a social aspect that allows some learned knowledge to be passed down, but that isn't genetic.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112960 May 18, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Now we are getting to the bottom line.
Are you saying God did not create the world and everything in the world?
There is no evidence of any particular god creating the world. If you have evidence that supports your beliefs we would love to see it.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#112961 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Why not?
Because.

(If you've got a problem with one word answers, just review the past 12+ months of "SCIPID" being taken apart like a newspaper tent in a hurricane.)

Level 1

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#112962 May 18, 2014
Just commenting, inner city ferals killing each other is a casually applied but positive from eugenics standpoint.
FREE SERVANT

Hockessin, DE

#112963 May 18, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Because.
(If you've got a problem with one word answers, just review the past 12+ months of "SCIPID" being taken apart like a newspaper tent in a hurricane.)
It's SCPID, and the basic concept has remained rock solid over the past 40+ months, and now there are some new discoveries verifying it's assertions regarding systems in nature and information being passed down through circuits and cycles. The goal post are in the same place they were at the beginning and the ball has not been dropped yet.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112964 May 18, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Plants pass this information down through the root system circuit and animals that do survive long enough to have off spring pass it to successive generations.
There is no mechanism for what you suggest. Where do plants pass it from their roots? The soil? What if insects eat the roots? Do they become hybrid animal/plant organisms? What prevents these circuits from getting crossed? Again, there is no evidence for this. No mechanism. No way.

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