Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171730 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Seffner, FL

#112627 May 7, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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So you deny that something which happened in the past would leave no trace, no evidence, of its happening that could be looked at today?
Do we have no clue of what happened at a crime scene just because nobody here now witnessed it directly (or is not saying). You don't think murder weapons, fingerprints, evidence of break-in, etc etc, would give us a clue?
We can tell a lot about the past by looking at the clues it left behind.
Like DA FLUD!

Oh, wait...

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#112628 May 7, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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Do you mean "creation happened" or do you mean "Biblical Creation" happened?
We have piles of evidence that the biblical creation story is mythical, not literal.
But you are still free to claim that the Big Bang 13.6 million years ago was an act of Creation if you like...nobody can argue. What we CAN argue, with boatloads of evidence, is that the Big Bang happened, based on several independently confirming lines of evidence.
We can also argue, with even more evidence, that however the Big Bang originated, it resulted in a universe capable of sustaining the conditions in which evolution can operate. Evolution is confirmed by multiple independent lines of evidence which is why 97% of all scientists and more than 99% of biologists accept the theory.
The actual origin of life, as opposed to its evolution, is a subject of less certainty and we have not established yet whether it could originate through natural processes. But nobody who understands science still believes that God poofed all the animals into existence one day a few thousand years ago. Only nutters still believe that.
Says who?

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#112629 May 7, 2014
Chimney1 wrote:
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Do you mean "creation happened" or do you mean "Biblical Creation" happened?
We have piles of evidence that the biblical creation story is mythical, not literal.
But you are still free to claim that the Big Bang 13.6 million years ago was an act of Creation if you like...nobody can argue. What we CAN argue, with boatloads of evidence, is that the Big Bang happened, based on several independently confirming lines of evidence.
We can also argue, with even more evidence, that however the Big Bang originated, it resulted in a universe capable of sustaining the conditions in which evolution can operate. Evolution is confirmed by multiple independent lines of evidence which is why 97% of all scientists and more than 99% of biologists accept the theory.
The actual origin of life, as opposed to its evolution, is a subject of less certainty and we have not established yet whether it could originate through natural processes. But nobody who understands science still believes that God poofed all the animals into existence one day a few thousand years ago. Only nutters still believe that.
Nothing can elve without a cause. This is where you guys are getting it wrong.

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#112630 May 7, 2014
TYPOS: I meant evolve.

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#112631 May 7, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Bye then.
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Hey 7T, you said you were gonna refute us. So far you've failed miserably. What's up, bub?
The world is a case of Creation and not the guessing and projections of evolution.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#112632 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You can call it whatever you want. It is hilarious to me when Man makes assumptions about life on Earth 20 million years ago
We simply have no clue what the World looked like back then because Man was not there.
Just Saying
Yeah, that's what all the bad guys say in court too.

Funnily enough they aren't taken seriously then either.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#112633 May 7, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing can evolve without a cause. This is where you guys are getting it wrong.
That's okay, it has lots of causes. Natural selection, mutation, genetic drift, horizontal gene transfer...
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#112634 May 7, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The world is a case of Creation and not the guessing and projections of evolution.
Creationism is (at best) a wild wild guess. Evolution is a fact as it has been tested empirically.

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#112636 May 7, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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That's okay, it has lots of causes. Natural selection, mutation, genetic drift, horizontal gene transfer...
So why evolution first before the cause( creation)?

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#112637 May 7, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Creationism is (at best) a wild wild guess. Evolution is a fact as it has been tested empirically.
Tested? And hence the debate. Lol
Nothing can elvolve without a cause or maker.

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Seffner, FL

#112638 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You know how to spell ASSumptions.
This whole business of trying to analyze date that is 20 million years old is a crock. Science does not work that way. You are practicing geology which is a useless profession unless you are trying to find oil or natural gas.
Geology is a useless profession? Too funny.

We know how to spell "ass" too.

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#112639 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You know how to spell ASSumptions.
This whole business of trying to analyze date that is 20 million years old is a crock. Science does not work that way. You are practicing geology which is a useless profession unless you are trying to find oil or natural gas.
Don't you ever get tired of being wrong? Still waiting for those Noah verses, btw.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112640 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You know how to spell ASSumptions.
This whole business of trying to analyze date that is 20 million years old is a crock. Science does not work that way. You are practicing geology which is a useless profession unless you are trying to find oil or natural gas.
Every time you fundies post something that can't be out-dumbed you still manage to do it somehow.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#112641 May 7, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
So why evolution first before the cause( creation)?
It wasn't. The universe began 13.71 billion years ago. Evolution started about 3.5 billion years ago. Hence evolution doesn't violate cause and effect.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Tested? And hence the debate. Lol
Nothing can elvolve without a cause or maker.
I gave you the causes of evolution - the mechanisms I previously mentioned a few hours ago.

As for debate, there is no scientific debate over the validity of evolution. As far as science is concerned evolution is a fact.

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#112643 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You know how to spell ASSumptions.
This whole business of trying to analyze date that is 20 million years old is a crock. Science does not work that way. You are practicing geology which is a useless profession unless you are trying to find oil or natural gas.
And WHY do you think that geology succeeds so well in finding coal and gas?

Do you happen to have ANY SUBSTANTIAL arguments for your tattle?
Did you EVER read a book on geology?
No?
No.
So WHAT precisely entitles you to assess it?
Nothing.

Do you REALLY think that the layman's tattle by some ignorant, who even didn't undertook any effort to get acquainted to the things he criticizes, the LEAST demand of decent debate, matters?

"Science does not work that way".
And your qualifications are?

Good heavens, WHAT A CRAP.

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Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#112644 May 7, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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...Science does not work that way.
Really.

So tell us 70, how DOES science work?

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Orlando

#112645 May 7, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Really.
So tell us 70, how DOES science work?
<predicted by SevenT> "...well in the BIBLE it sez...".

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#112646 May 7, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing can elve without a cause. This is where you guys are getting it wrong.

Says the rube who says England owns the English language.

Okay, whatever.

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Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#112648 May 8, 2014
Dogen wrote:
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Says the rube who says England owns the English language.
Okay, whatever.
NOOOOOOO!

*covering face with hands*

You reminded him. Prepare for the next 17-page wave of Charles English babble.

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in a city...

#112649 May 8, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Think of the kid who can't win at a chess game and whines, "I'm quitting 'cause you guys don't play fair!" when the simple truth is he's just pathetically incompetent and is unwilling to learn. Does that make him the "bigger of the two?"
What does that have to do with life a game?

I think all things by now have been tried and nothing makes a dam of difference to some ...

No of course it does not...
But how many is playing against in one game? How many does it take to win?
He may be smart to cut his throat now and get it done do it in peace and private oh hey is that against policy to speak of death?

Later I have no patience for this place much at all anymore...

Nice put together's though the threads how they develop and people seem to know a lot of sheet...

America has a certain way doesn't it? well you would maybe not know you prolly were born here ...

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