Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168957 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112541 May 3, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colton_Burpo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Came...
Perhaps you should look into things before you call others a troll, troll.
Oh, so now you're calling ME a troll?? Ha!!Ha!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112542 May 3, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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Wrong.
Yeh!! That's what I said. Thanx Mike!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112543 May 3, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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Since that isn't what the Big Bang theory claims, there is no issue.
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The BBT is about cosmology. Evolution is about biology. Totally different subjects. Evolution, as far as we know, is limited to the Earth: it is the only place we *know* there is life.
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That isn't what the SLoT actually says. It is a poor description of a simplification of the SLoT. In actuality, it is quite possible (even common) for complexity and order to be driven by entropy concerns. For example, the separation of oil and water is an increase of order that is consistent with SLoT. So is the formation of a crystal from a solution. Both represent increases of order and not a 'deterioration'(which is not even mentions in SLoT).
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NO deities are required to understand the universe.
So if there is MORE order by the separation of oil and water and also by the formation of a crystal from a chemical solution, then WHY can't we apply this principle to LIVING ORGANISMS?? THERE'S the ENDLESS LIFE you were looking for!! And ALL without faith in any God!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112544 May 3, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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I'm not very Bible-literate so excuse me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say somewhere that the flood 'covered the highest mountain tops'?
But then what would the definition of a mountain be back then - height-wise, that is??

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112545 May 3, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, what the Bible called 'mountains' pre-Flood, were more like mounds rising only a few hundred meters high (at the highest peaks) before catastrophe occurred.
See, there you go espousing idiocy.

The fact that Noah's Ark is a myth was known long before Darwin's time.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112546 May 3, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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is he some rag or something. thought I heard a rumor...
Ha!!Ha!!Ha!! LOL!! "Matt" (as in Matt Dillahunty, the atheist, you'll find hm on YouTube), is the bloke I was talking about. You're FUNNY, Tinka!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112547 May 3, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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I'd gladly accept creationism if you were able to demonstrate it in an objective manner via the scientific method.
Stop whining and blaming others just because you got zip.(shrug)
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It's more shallow to think the universe was made as a test especially for you so you could exist forever in paradise.
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You won't get there. Zeus will zap your buttt for eternity.
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I don't care.(shrug)
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So instead of moving TRILLIONS of tons of mass in water worldwide, you're moving even MORE trillions of tons of mass in ROCK.
Therefore Noah still fried and we aren't even here to talk about it.
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Yeah but like I said, your opinion is irrelevant. If you had the opinion that you really saw someone fly like Superman your opinion would still be wrong.
You can't make the Earth as hot as the sun's surface and have anything survive. So if you're talking science, your opinions are plain wrong. If you're claiming Godmagic changed physics just so you could have a flood then you're not talking science and evidence doesn't matter.
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My opinions are every bit as valid as yours. But often I give facts instead of opinions, and facts ARE important whether any of us like it or not.
Reality is real no matter what your religious beliefs are.
Yes!! TRILLIONS of tons of water and rock WERE moved during the flood. Just look up your dictionary for the word CATASTROPHE. I would guess the Flood was, if anything, not only a physical purification, but also a spiritual cleansing of the Earth, to start anew again. And about you opinions, sure, you are entitled to them just like anyone else on this forum.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112548 May 3, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Yes!! TRILLIONS of tons of water and rock WERE moved during the flood. Just look up your dictionary for the word CATASTROPHE. I would guess the Flood was, if anything, not only a physical purification, but also a spiritual cleansing of the Earth, to start anew again. And about you opinions, sure, you are entitled to them just like anyone else on this forum.
NO, we know there was no flood. As you said all of that water would have left evidence behind. There is no evidence of a global flood. None at all.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112549 May 3, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I know what the Bible says about false prophets.
It is fortunate for me that your opinion can easily be scraped off the bottom of my shoe.
I suppose when it comes down to it, you will enjoy shooting me or cutting me up along with all the atheists, heretics and wrong kinds of Christians. After all you know what the Lord is thinking.
I never knew that there was a wrong kind of Christian. It is fortunate that you can tell the difference when the slaughter begins.
Well, there ARE Christians out there who CLAIM they're CHRISTIANS. But the LORD knows your HEART. The great majority of Xians who THINK and BELIEVE they're Xians, will end up in HELLFIRE. You never know......I may very well be one of them, bro.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112550 May 3, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Yet you fundies wish it on us all the time. You keep threatening our eternal souls for disagreeing with your baseless opinions you can't back up. And that's why we take you seriously as you do my threats of Zeus.
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Except it is a fact no-one on Earth has refuted it yet. I was not offering an opinion.
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So do we. So as I said you DON'T know more than we do. We have read your book and concluded it flawed.
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Sure, but that won't stop death. So forget about it and live life.
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Yet you accuse him of arrogance. I'm not arrogant because I back myself up with facts. You don't. Therefore YOU'RE like Matt. I'm like Dude. The Dude abides.
Abide with me.
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Yeah, sex is fun. Try it. Just remember to practise safe sex. Everything in moderation.
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Exactly.
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Except mathematicians have examined your claims and found them to be erroneous. Besides, if it WAS written by an awesome intelligence you'd think it would at LEAST be able to get the shape of the Earth consistent. It didn't.(shrug)
I'm getting tired of the halitosis exuding from your skanky, stinky mouth, bro. Hoo boy!! That breath of yours is LETHAL!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112551 May 3, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> That is it!
Too right, Charles!! Enjoy your day!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112552 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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It was the sudden expansion of the universe and is as far back as we can project.
Right now.
What do you think the Big Bang was?
Who knows?? Coulda been God BANGING one of His angels for all I care. I dunno.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112553 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I have not been a hypocrite to the degree that creationists have.
I do not try to force idiocy upon others.
Well if I'M an IDIOT, then YOU must be the IDIOT of IDIOTS (LOL!!). Nah!! You're no idiot. You are very intelligent, actually. You just need to be steered in the right direction. Have a great day!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112554 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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But creationists commonly try to claim that the Bible is flawless. Seriously when all of the evidence is against your beliefs why would you follow those beliefs?
Faith!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112555 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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But evolution has no say about whether Christianity is right or wrong. Most Christians worldwide accept the theory of evolution. Evolution only tells us that the book of Genesis was a myth, but we already knew that before the theory of evolution was written.
They (the Theological Evolutionists) are heading down the wrong road.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112556 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Why are you trying to give the theory of evolution such power? It is not concerned with the purpose of life. It only explains how life got to the state that it is in now.
This where Creation trumps Evolution: In that NOT ONLY can it explain HOW life got here, BUT ALSO the WHY'S and WHEREFORE'S, too. You have EMOTIONS, right?? You laugh, you cry, you feel happy, sad, lonely, angry, peaceful, etc...Now let me ask you. How do things like emotions EVOLVE?? HOW is that possible?? You may think you came from apes, but I will always believe I was made in the image of God.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112557 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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See, there you go espousing idiocy.
The fact that Noah's Ark is a myth was known long before Darwin's time.
Fair enough, SZ. I am the class clown and the village idiot!! Hee!!Hee!!Hee!!
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112558 May 3, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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NO, we know there was no flood. As you said all of that water would have left evidence behind. There is no evidence of a global flood. None at all.
O.Kay.
NOISY TOILET

Auckland, New Zealand

#112559 May 3, 2014
Hi-ho, folks!! I guess I'd better move on I suppose. It was great debating with all you Evos and atheists out there in cyberspace. I believe Creation to be true because it gives humans reason for their existence upon this Earth, in this universe, and in the whole of God's creation. The Evos and atheists out there have a right to discredit the existence of God, but I won't believe them, so I will give them TWO provisos. 1: That they can produce SOMETHING out of NOTHING (something which only GOD could do); and 2: Produce a LIVING ORGANISM out of NON-LIVING (DEAD) matter (another thing only GOD could have accomplished). If THEY can achieve those two challenges, then I will GLADLY burn my Bible, relinquish Christianity then join the ranks of the atheists and Evos. Meanwhile, I'm quite happy where I am. God bless you all and BYE!!

“Rising”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#112560 May 3, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> So, are you saying that everything ends in death?? Because if you are, then your ToE does not hold any justification as to the ULTIMATE purpose what of human life means on this Earth and in this universe. The ULTIMATE purpose BEING........to please OUR CREATOR. ALL things were MADE BY Him and FOR Him - John 1:3.
Every living thing dies, but everything does not have to end with a single individuals death.
Those that remain carry, on those plans. If you hadn't noticed that George Washington is dead, but we still have the US, despite his death.
If you think you were created to please your creator, you should go stroke your god, and maybe sit in his lap and purr or something instead of being here.
Maybe your creator will sit on you and when finished, pull your little arm.

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