Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222998 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112498 May 1, 2014
Oops, cooking dinner and I missed my second link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support...

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#112499 May 1, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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You tools are the ones claiming there is a consensus among scientists not me.
Flinging poo is never helpful in an argument. You may want to open your mind a bit and understand what everyone is (politely) explaining to you. Consider it an opportunity.

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Since: Apr 11

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#112501 May 2, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Oh, that must be why all the physicists agree with it then.
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No faith required. There's zero evidence of invisible magic Jewish wizards. And every single organism today is chock full of DNA, which came about via natural means.
The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.
The hypothesis of abiogenesis does not rely on the Big Bang theory.
<quoted text>
You the former, us the latter.
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Global flood never happened. Adam and Eve never existed. Spontaneous generation (creationism) is not scientifically viable. People can't walk on water. Donkeys and lizards don't talk. The Earth is not a flat square circle at the center of a geocentric universe.
We don't interpret the Bible. That's not our job. If our view of the Bible is childish it's because the Bible is childish.
Feel free to come up with the one and only TRUE interpretation which is not only not childish, but also consistent with the laws of physics. Because invisible Jewmagic is NOT.
And yet nothing, not even science is perfect.

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Since: Apr 11

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#112502 May 2, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
Evolutionists cannot make life from non-life. And even if they could, wasn't there an intelligence (humans) behind the making of that life (inferring that God is intelligent)?? Just asking.
That is it!

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Since: Apr 11

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#112503 May 2, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Does it take "intelligence" to slap together two hydrogen atoms, and one oxygen atom to make a water molecule?
But that was based on human's intelligence or knowledge.

Level 2

Since: Apr 11

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#112504 May 2, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Irrelevant. The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.
<quoted text>
You mean your mom having a plant in a plant-pot proves that all plants needed humans to plant them?
No, not necessarily.
So tell how the plants came into form?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#112505 May 2, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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What exactly does Physics have to do with evolution? Nothing
EVERYTHING is physics.

You plonker.

You managed to come up with a refutation yet?

(crickets chirping)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#112506 May 2, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
And yet nothing, not even science is perfect.
Neither's your computer, but obviously it works pretty well.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> So tell how the plants came into form?
http://images.bwwstatic.com/columnpic6/2A4B04...
FREE SERVANT

United States

#112507 May 2, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Evidence of what?
The towers that were mentioned in the Genesis scripture more than likely were step pyramid structures which were elevated altars that were built for the elect priests to make offerings upon. Modern scientist do not relate this to biblical stories, but the origins were recorded in writing. Read Genesis 8:13&20 to find that the ark did have a covering and after it was removed, Noah built an altar unto the LORD. Gen8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year,in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from.off the earth; and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked,and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. Gen8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offering on the altar.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112508 May 2, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Ignorance of ignorance is ignorance
Now say Beetlejuice.

I agree, you do appear to be ignorant of your ignorance. How sad for you.

But how much fun for us!

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112509 May 2, 2014
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The towers that were mentioned in the Genesis scripture more than likely were step pyramid structures which were elevated altars that were built for the elect priests to make offerings upon. Modern scientist do not relate this to biblical stories, but the origins were recorded in writing. Read Genesis 8:13&20 to find that the ark did have a covering and after it was removed, Noah built an altar unto the LORD. Gen8:13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year,in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from.off the earth; and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked,and, behold, the face of the ground was dry. Gen8:20 And Noah builded an altar unto the LORD; and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offering on the altar.
The flood never happened.

“Denny Crain”

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Since: Jan 11

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#112510 May 2, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The flood never happened.
And on the 6th day Lord Obama spoke to the masses and told that if you like your Doctor you can keep your Doctor. So it was spoken and so shall it be :)
THE LONE WORKER

United States

#112511 May 2, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>The flood never happened.
Your dating of the flood is what did not happen correctly. There is evidence on the high mountains all over the earth that it was covered with water.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#112512 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>Your dating of the flood is what did not happen correctly. There is evidence on the high mountains all over the earth that it was covered with water.
There was no flood, so there is no correct dating for one. Fossilized clams inside a 29,000 foot high mountain is not evidence that it rained and fonts gushed for 40 days and nights 4500 years ago.

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Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112513 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>Your dating of the flood is what did not happen correctly. There is evidence on the high mountains all over the earth that it was covered with water.
Nice try, but wrong answer.

Presumably, the evidence you refer to is fossil evidence. Yes. Before those mountains were uplifted by geological processes millions of years in the past, they were once part of the sea bottom and you can find marine fossils at high elevations. Not evidence of a flood, but of geology. This is well documented and supported by the physical evidence.

There is no evidence of a global flood back many hundreds of millions of years and if one were to have occurred those many years gone by, there would have been no Noah or any other people to witness it, let alone write about it.

Play again?

Thank you very much.
THE LONE WORKER

United States

#112514 May 2, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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There was no flood, so there is no correct dating for one. Fossilized clams inside a 29,000 foot high mountain is not evidence that it rained and fonts gushed for 40 days and nights 4500 years ago.
The earthquakes which may have occurred could have caused the rocks to flow and the settling afterwards could appear to have taken long time scales.

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Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#112515 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>The earthquakes which may have occurred could have caused the rocks to flow and the settling afterwards could appear to have taken long time scales.
You have no real idea what you are discussing. But hey, when you have no idea, any crap you can make up will work right. Oddly, you are by what appears to be pure accident closer than I would have guessed.

Earthquakes are a part of the process, but it is uplift of the whole of the strata and not rocks flowing as a river caused by quakes that resulted in the mountains we have today. Even if quake-formed, rivers of stone were a viable mechanism, I can't see how it wouldn't take millions and millions of years to occur.

Settling? Does a building appear older due to settling? You are reaching. Look there goes a straw.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#112516 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>Your dating of the flood is what did not happen correctly. There is evidence on the high mountains all over the earth that it was covered with water.
Your fellow Creationist seems to disagree with your findings;
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, there were no mountains before the flood. That's why it's pointless saying things like "How could the Noahic Flood produce enough water to cover the world's highest mountain (Mount Everest)??" It DID NOT HAPPEN because there WAS NO Mt. Everest back then!! The FLOOD actually CAUSED MOUNTAINS to be formed LATER ON (the upheaval of the Earth)...
I think Creationists need to get their facts straight before making such bold proclamaitions

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#112517 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>The earthquakes which may have occurred could have caused the rocks to flow and the settling afterwards could appear to have taken long time scales.
"may have"
"could have"
"could appear to have"

Reach much?

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#112518 May 2, 2014
THE LONE WORKER wrote:
<quoted text>The earthquakes which may have occurred could have caused the rocks to flow and the settling afterwards could appear to have taken long time scales.
Which may have which could have could appear long time scales flowing rocks and settling somethings.... Thank you for being concise about your evidence for a mythical event.

Are you trying to say that the mountain ranges were lifted to their present heights and ocean floors settled to their current depths after the (mythical) flood? You obviously don't understand that amount of geologic upheaval within the "long time scale" of recorded history would be several orders of magnitude more catastrophic than the (mythical) flood itself.

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