Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223358 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#112348 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong. I believe the BB did NOT happen.
Wrong.

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#112349 Apr 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Polymath257....you've thrown me a curve. Apparently I do not understand a concept I thought I did. let me do some reading and I will get back to you....thanks
Pol is very good at that and he has such a wonderful way of explaining :)

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#112350 Apr 27, 2014
Dogen wrote:
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I am aware of Leviticus. I am also aware the most Christians distance themselves from the OT based on some, rather weak, NT references (which of course conflict with what Jesus actually said on the matter).
Who knows what Jesus actually said? The books of the New Testament were written so long after his life. And what exactly is the NT ? Some books made the cut while many didn't. It is a political document with as much spin as modern day news. Look at poor Mary Magdalen labeled a whore. How does Mary the mother of Jesus take such a dominate roll in the Catholic church? She is barely mentioned in the NT. Old Constantine was a politician after all . I have more questions than answers

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#112352 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Regarding the Big Bang Theory, how can ORDER, ORGANIZATION, FORM and FUNCTION come from an EXPLOSION??
Since that isn't what the Big Bang theory claims, there is no issue.
The whole idea of the BBT is a barefaced LIE. Evolution: tiny little incremental changes over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years.
The BBT is about cosmology. Evolution is about biology. Totally different subjects. Evolution, as far as we know, is limited to the Earth: it is the only place we *know* there is life.
Yeah, right. 2nd Law of T/dynamics says everything DETERIORATES (loses energy, becomes more disorderly, and basically ROTS over time). Isn't that's what is happening??
That isn't what the SLoT actually says. It is a poor description of a simplification of the SLoT. In actuality, it is quite possible (even common) for complexity and order to be driven by entropy concerns. For example, the separation of oil and water is an increase of order that is consistent with SLoT. So is the formation of a crystal from a solution. Both represent increases of order and not a 'deterioration'(which is not even mentions in SLoT).
Yeah, you are right about the universe:It was once in a HIGHER STATE (more heat, for instance) and is NOW in a LOWER STATE (less heat), so you are actually CONFIRMING what the Creos are saying. AND as for Yahweh, I put ALL my BETS on HIM (GUARANTEED TO WIN!!).
NO deities are required to understand the universe.

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#112353 Apr 27, 2014
Denny CranesPlace wrote:
<quoted text>Who knows what Jesus actually said? The books of the New Testament were written so long after his life. And what exactly is the NT ? Some books made the cut while many didn't. It is a political document with as much spin as modern day news. Look at poor Mary Magdalen labeled a whore. How does Mary the mother of Jesus take such a dominate roll in the Catholic church? She is barely mentioned in the NT. Old Constantine was a politician after all . I have more questions than answers
If you look at the only surviving works to Constantine's conquest of Rome , it sheds doubt that he was even a believer in Christ at that point. Which means the whole story of him and his revelation from god is a carefully made up story he weaved to put a spin on his followers and solidify the Empire. He was a pagan and you will find no reference of his revelation from god on this work he constructed. If that story were true it should have been on this arch.

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#112354 Apr 27, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Polymath257....you've thrown me a curve. Apparently I do not understand a concept I thought I did. let me do some reading and I will get back to you....thanks
Be careful of popular descriptions. They tend to be simplified to the point of misrepresentation. Like I said, your misunderstanding is incredibly common and probably to be expected. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.

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#112355 Apr 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Yes it mentions covering the highest mountains to a depth of 15 cubits .
Why do believers make it up as they go?
Maybe it's because they just have to, or maybe because it's a 3,000 year old tradition.

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#112356 Apr 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Nobody can prove any of that hogwash
That is at best an educated guess based on very little
Nice try ape worshiper
Nothing except actual data and application of the known laws of physics and chemistry. Nothing except for remains showing the progression and timing of the changes.

Clearly, you have a problem with acknowledging you are an animal and even an ape:

1) Are you made of complex cells with internal organelles? If so, you are a eucaryote.

2) Do your cells have membranes made of lipids rather than walls made from glucosides and are they surrounded by an extracellular matrix composed of collagen and glycoproteins? Then you are an Animal.

3) During embry development, does the blastopore (the first opening) become the anus? Then you are a Deuterostome.

4) Do you have a head, backbone, brain, red blood cells, and kidneys? Then you are a Vertebrate.

5) Are air-breathing, have hair, three ear bones, sweat glands, the ability to regulate internal temperature and specialized teeth? Then you are a Mammal.

6) Do you lack an epi-pubic bone and do females like you have a uterus which produces a placenta during pregnancy? Then you are a placental Mammal.

7) Do you have a collar bone, opposable fingers, a flat nail on fingers and toes, eye sockets made from bone, stereoscopic vision, an enlarged cerebral cortex? Then you are a Primate.

8) Are you tail-less with a narrow nose and downward pointed nostrils, broad rib cage, a fused frontal bone, convoluted cerebral hemispheres, a large brain for his size of mammal, color vision, a lack of tail, and a lack of cheek pouches? Then you are an Ape.

So, yes, if you are human, then you *are* an ape.

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#112357 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, there were no mountains before the flood. That's why it's pointless saying things like "How could the Noahic Flood produce enough water to cover the world's highest mountain (Mount Everest)??" It DID NOT HAPPEN because there WAS NO Mt. Everest back then!! The FLOOD actually CAUSED MOUNTAINS to be formed LATER ON (the upheaval of the Earth). The Earth was relatively flat (level) back then. By "flat", I DON'T mean a FLAT EARTH, I mean it was flat AROUND the Earth (the Earth, as you and I know, is a sphere - Isaiah 40:22).
I'm not very Bible-literate so excuse me if I'm wrong, but didn't it say somewhere that the flood 'covered the highest mountain tops'?

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#112358 Apr 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it mentions covering the highest mountains to a depth of 15 cubits .
Why do believers make it up as they go?
Really? It defines such accuracy? According to Google, a cubit is around 40 cm, so the Bible claims that the flood covered the highest mountain by 6 meters. How would they know that? How would anyone at the time be able to determine how high the flood waters were? And in reference to what, since no mountain top were visible? Noah must have been a pretty smart dude.

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#112360 Apr 27, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? It defines such accuracy? According to Google, a cubit is around 40 cm, so the Bible claims that the flood covered the highest mountain by 6 meters. How would they know that? How would anyone at the time be able to determine how high the flood waters were? And in reference to what, since no mountain top were visible? Noah must have been a pretty smart dude.
I have no idea how all the lies told were decided on, they didn't include me in the planning.

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#112361 Apr 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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And where did all that come from?
stardust. or Joni Mitchell. too close to call.

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#112362 Apr 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Nobody can prove any of that hogwash
That is at best an educated guess based on very little
Nice try ape worshiper
Well at least you admit its an educated guess.

By educated, I suppose you mean,informed, and by "very little" you must be referring to the consistent set of discoveries in the fossil record and the genome, along with independently corroborating evidence from lab experiments, embryology, genetic algorithms, atavisms, and so on.

You know, all that evidence that creationism did not even suspect existed and cannot explain away today, but evolution explains and in many cases predicted.

An educated guess trumps ignorance based on wishful thinking any day.

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#112363 Apr 27, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
And where did all that come from?
The definitions of the various concepts. It's called the science of biology, specifically taxonomy.

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#112364 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Don't be like Matt.
is he some rag or something. thought I heard a rumor...

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#112365 Apr 27, 2014
What where when and how? What how when and where?
Was wo and was wie woman etwas machen kann?

Und wie seems more of an importante vs. to where wo?

Dams talk about having to...use one a KLO?

When the world comes crashing down....hmmmm

There better be around some wane/when? Wann when what?

Always a happening and of COURSE there's an opposing to view well poo on in WILDOMAR because there maybe more people's crap than there is dog crap...

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#112366 Apr 27, 2014
Blowing it out of my pipe...

Oh and thank goodness to day is the last day of the week where I am from where you are at it is your new day....
American...

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#112367 Apr 27, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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The definitions of the various concepts. It's called the science of biology, specifically taxonomy.
Taxemptions...

Saw some Political figure on some ad that said he needs to be retired and I thought he looks not all that corrupt or bad and he should become a puppeteer in some Theater and play a
Pharmacist...

I had yesterday luckily two rides offered to me...

By fellow country man...

:)

Mexicanish...
Spanish is ja halt part of me....

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#112368 Apr 27, 2014
Bio logic stands against hazard....That is one thing I know...

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#112369 Apr 27, 2014
So to taxes metra...mony....????

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