Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 210011 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112305 Apr 27, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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In all the places you don't wanna look.
Feel free to get an education. It's your choice.
O-kay.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112306 Apr 27, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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The universe will eventually die. Therefore your objections here are moot.
And who says any external force (if there is any) has to be a "who"?
There. You said it yourself -(you believe) "The universe will eventually die". See?? Your Theory (of Evolution) says everything will end up DYING. But JESUS came to CONQUER DEATH!! The WHO is an INTELLIGENT BEING (as in an Intelligent Designer). Regarding your salvation, it's never too late to change, my friend.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112307 Apr 27, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Wow, I never realised the entirety of the theory of evolution was dependent upon this one atheist on youtube called Matt Dillahunty.
Whoever the heck he is.
Don't be like Matt.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112308 Apr 27, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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So then life is what you make it. Stop worrying about what happens after you bite the big one.(shrug)
Sure!! Go ahead and live a SINFUL LIFE!! Everythings gonna be alright!! Ther's NO such animal called GOD!! Here, have some more drugs and alcohol!! Get into SEX, SEX, SEX!!!!! WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!! What a WILD RIDE!!!!!
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112309 Apr 27, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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Listen carefully - we don't CARE what you believe. We're only interested in what you can demonstrate. So far that ain't much.
As if we CARE what YOU believe?? Hmmmph!!
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112311 Apr 27, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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You don't have to. Look at the evidence objectively. Attempt to understand what it says and means. Look at the basic laws of physics and attempt to understand them and how they apply to these questions. Look at the evidence that they do, in fact, work.
I would bet you cannot say what the Big Bang theory actually says, or what the theory of evolution actually says, or for that matter, what the second law of thermodynamics actually says. The reason is that you ultimately don't care about the truth: you care about whether people agree with you. You care whether they accept the basis of your hopes and fears.
We can look at the evidence and show that species do change over time. That *is* evolution. We can look into the universe and show it is expanding and that it was once much hotter and denser than it is today. That *is* the Big Bang scenario.
What you cannot do is show that your particular beliefs about a deity are any more accurate than anyone else's beliefs about their deities. You cannot show that Yahweh is any less of a myth than Thor.
Regarding the Big Bang Theory, how can ORDER, ORGANIZATION, FORM and FUNCTION come from an EXPLOSION?? The whole idea of the BBT is a barefaced LIE. Evolution: tiny little incremental changes over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years. Yeah, right. 2nd Law of T/dynamics says everything DETERIORATES (loses energy, becomes more disorderly, and basically ROTS over time). Isn't that's what is happening?? Yeah, you are right about the universe:It was once in a HIGHER STATE (more heat, for instance) and is NOW in a LOWER STATE (less heat), so you are actually CONFIRMING what the Creos are saying. AND as for Yahweh, I put ALL my BETS on HIM (GUARANTEED TO WIN!!).
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112312 Apr 27, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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I have read the book. it reads like many other books from that time period: a mixture of propaganda and superstition. It is not fundamentally different than the myths of the Iliad or of the founding of Rome.
Well the Book is never wrong. I stick by it. The Gematria (numerical values of letters and words) in the Bible is nothing short of AMAZING. It could only have been written by a being with awesome intelligence.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112313 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, there were no mountains before the flood. That's why it's pointless saying things like "How could the Noahic Flood produce enough water to cover the world's highest mountain (Mount Everest)??" It DID NOT HAPPEN because there WAS NO Mt. Everest back then!! The FLOOD actually CAUSED MOUNTAINS to be formed LATER ON (the upheaval of the Earth). The Earth was relatively flat (level) back then. By "flat", I DON'T mean a FLAT EARTH, I mean it was flat AROUND the Earth (the Earth, as you and I know, is a sphere - Isaiah 40:22).
Sorry but the writers of that verse were writing about a Flat Earth. The specific word used was the old Hebrew word for a circle, to be even more precise it was the word for an inscribed circles the kind you would make with a compass. Since you probably failed geometry I probably need to tell you that circles are flat, they are not spheres. And there was a perfectly good Hebrew word they could have used, in fact it was used by the writer of that particular book elsewhere, that meant would definitely show they meant that the Earth was a sphere.

That particular verse shows the writer thought the Earth was Flat, not spherical.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112314 Apr 27, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I know you don't have answers. You don't even have any questions. It is more the sad for you, but you don't even understand that.
You are under the impression that evolution is supported by atheists and that atheists have never read the Bible.
You are wrong on both counts, not that the truth will sway you.
You are the WRONG type of Christian. You know what God says about luke warm believers (Revelation 3:16).

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112315 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well the Book is never wrong. I stick by it. The Gematria (numerical values of letters and words) in the Bible is nothing short of AMAZING. It could only have been written by a being with awesome intelligence.
So you believe the Earth to be flat.

You believe that you can change the color of the young of sheep by having them mate in front of striped sticks.

You believe that leprosy can be cured with dove's blood.

You believe that it is a sin to eat shellfish.

You believe that it is a sin to wear polyester.

Or are you just being a hypocrite again?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112316 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Regarding the Big Bang Theory, how can ORDER, ORGANIZATION, FORM and FUNCTION come from an EXPLOSION?? The whole idea of the BBT is a barefaced LIE. Evolution: tiny little incremental changes over MILLIONS and BILLIONS of years. Yeah, right. 2nd Law of T/dynamics says everything DETERIORATES (loses energy, becomes more disorderly, and basically ROTS over time). Isn't that's what is happening?? Yeah, you are right about the universe:It was once in a HIGHER STATE (more heat, for instance) and is NOW in a LOWER STATE (less heat), so you are actually CONFIRMING what the Creos are saying. AND as for Yahweh, I put ALL my BETS on HIM (GUARANTEED TO WIN!!).
It is sad that you have t mischaracterize what the Big Bang was. It was not an explosion. By lying about what it was you are essentially conceding the argument that the Big Bang happened.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112317 Apr 27, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Sure!! Go ahead and live a SINFUL LIFE!! Everythings gonna be alright!! Ther's NO such animal called GOD!! Here, have some more drugs and alcohol!! Get into SEX, SEX, SEX!!!!! WOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!! What a WILD RIDE!!!!!
Again, most atheists aren't into those faults. At least not to the extent that Christians are.

Perhaps you need some magic book to keep yourself in check, we don't feel that need.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112318 Apr 27, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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So what do you consider California to be? Modern Western has it gained in or improved?
Physically and materially, yes. Morally and ethically, no.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112319 Apr 27, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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So what do you consider California to be? Modern Western has it gained in or improved?
Materially, yes. Morally, no.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112321 Apr 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Are you kidding? Why wouldn't you want humanity to carry on, your grand children , great grands, great great grands......Death is a part of life we have to accept, as it's the inescapable last act of the living.
Accept that at the end of the sentence is a "." .
God is the God of the LIVING, not the dead. Only God will be able to give us ETERNAL LIFE, that way we will all CARRY ON forever, so you actually AGREE with the Creos like me in that regard. Are you SURE you're on the right side??
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112322 Apr 27, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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Maybe let's say someone loses their sanity and not remembering who they are then what is the soul to do and does it sustain in it's place uhhhh some storage made to hold it until further knowledge that can set the old in motion?
Where would one have to resign and when odes this exactly happen?
At the onset of death at the end of death during?
What death is and what is instilled for it to be surely it isn't for more torture or pain after the fact and what is man's role in it...
Death is a result of Man's disobedience to God. Everyone dies/will die someday. If someone loses their marbles, that is not their fault. God will give them a second chance on J-Day. There will be HELL (literally) to PAY for those who WILLINGLY DISOBEY God (Ezekiel 18:4).
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112323 Apr 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The indoctrinated are lulled into believing in all sort of cruel hoaxes, alternate science, talking snakes, virgin pregnancy, resurrection of the dead, afterlife, global floods and Hell.
How are you on giants, demons, angels, magical fruit, and return of the zombie king lord of death on Earth end of the human race stuff?
You say you want a happy ending, when what you really want is to believe you can cheat death. Accept at the end ...we die and all that's left is a memory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =_r3Aaeb7UZEXX
That is SOOOO shallow. I pity you.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112324 Apr 27, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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Yeah and Animals...
Wonder which one they ate first on their travel...:)
Yep. And the animals, too, Tinka. They probably took a whole lotta fruit and veg to eat so that they could lay off the animals (he-he).
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112325 Apr 27, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You'd be ignorant like that.
Well, maybe not.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112326 Apr 27, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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So you believe the Earth to be flat.
You believe that you can change the color of the young of sheep by having them mate in front of striped sticks.
You believe that leprosy can be cured with dove's blood.
You believe that it is a sin to eat shellfish.
You believe that it is a sin to wear polyester.
Or are you just being a hypocrite again?
SZ, I suppose you DISAGREE with EVERYTHING the Bible says, huh??

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