Evolution vs. Creation

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Apr 24, 2014
 
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> But at one stage, abiogenesis WAS part of the T of E. NOW the Evos are distancing themselves from it, because they CANNOT for the life of them. produce life from non-life in the laboratory. On your second point, Creation is NOT against science, but you Evos claim that science is on your side and that Creation is non-scientific. Look up the word 'science' in the dictionary. NOWHERE does the definition of it say that it favors Evolution OR Creation. Science is a tool to present the facts. But I believe one day, science will tip the scales in favor of Creation. Then you Evos and atheists can all merrily fry in hell (Hee-hee-hee!!).
I have studied evolution for some time and the theory as postulated by Darwin and later in the synthesis of the early 20th Century did not and does not include abiogenesis. That it does or did has become a popular theme on fundie propaganda websites. Creation may not be, but creationists sure are anti-science. Yes, there is no scientific evidence to support the creation story of the Bible or of any other religion for that matter.

Anything is possible, but it won't be creation as related in Genesis. That is an allegory.

I don't believe I will fry in Hell for using my mind and reason, but it is good to see true Christian love stated with such passion and compassion. As a Christian, I don't want others to burn in Hell and share no joy in the prospect. How sad for you.

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<quoted text> Whatever, Dan.
If you don't want an honest, factual answer then why ask the question. Are you stupid or something?
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<quoted text>Are you the Devil? I didn't know you went by Noisy Toilet, though I can see you are full of shit.
Ha!!Ha!!Ha!! You're funny, Dan. Have a good day, man.

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<quoted text> Ha!!Ha!!Ha!! You're funny, Dan. Have a good day, man.
I am very funny, thank you. You have a good day too.
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<quoted text>I have studied evolution for some time and the theory as postulated by Darwin and later in the synthesis of the early 20th Century did not and does not include abiogenesis. That it does or did has become a popular theme on fundie propaganda websites. Creation may not be, but creationists sure are anti-science. Yes, there is no scientific evidence to support the creation story of the Bible or of any other religion for that matter.
Anything is possible, but it won't be creation as related in Genesis. That is an allegory.
I don't believe I will fry in Hell for using my mind and reason, but it is good to see true Christian love stated with such passion and compassion. As a Christian, I don't want others to burn in Hell and share no joy in the prospect. How sad for you.
So you're a Christian Evolutionist I take it. Well, according to me, you cannot 'fuse' Christianity with Evolution. They're as different as chalk and cheese. Let's say you are right about the abiogenesis thing though. OK, that's cool with me. Now, can you tell me what the FULL title of Darwin's book, "On the Origin of Species" is?? Doesn't it ALSO say something about the superiority of certain races over others?? Oh yeah, the KKK would LOVE a book like THAT!! Maybe you're a Klan member (not that I should assume that). Was Charlie Darwin a racist??
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Apr 24, 2014
 
Sounds to me like y'all are just a bunch of old hippies blabbering your nonsense. Yep, really makes ya feel big insulting people on a marginally important website.
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Kong_ wrote:
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Again, it is BIOCHEMISTS that are involved in the quest to find a viable pathway for the origin of life. NOT Evolutionists (aka, Evolutionary Biologists or Biologists).
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Science is working on that right now. As soon as you guys provide proof of an all-powerful, supernatural being, it will be included into the equations.
Until then....
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Yeah.
No shit.
YEh. You're one of these "I'll believe it when I see it" kinda people, right?? Read your Bible in the book of John (New Testament) when Jesus talks to Thomas (John 20:29).
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<quoted text>If you don't want an honest, factual answer then why ask the question. Are you stupid or something?
Yeh, mee stoopid. But att leest mee havs God on mee side. Wiff Him, NUFFING IMPOSSIBLE!! Hee-hee-hee!! Matthew 17:20 and 19:26, Mark 10:27, and Luke 18:27.

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<quoted text> So you're a Christian Evolutionist I take it. Well, according to me, you cannot 'fuse' Christianity with Evolution. They're as different as chalk and cheese. Let's say you are right about the abiogenesis thing though. OK, that's cool with me. Now, can you tell me what the FULL title of Darwin's book, "On the Origin of Species" is?? Doesn't it ALSO say something about the superiority of certain races over others?? Oh yeah, the KKK would LOVE a book like THAT!! Maybe you're a Klan member (not that I should assume that). Was Charlie Darwin a racist??
It is a good thing I don't consider you with regard to my religious, philosophical and scientific concerns. Thanks for the input on that though.

This is what they call an old canard. Race then meant species and had nothing to do with the races of man. From what I have read of Charles Darwin, he was a typical Englishman of the time and no more racist than the norm and apparently less than the norm. This is just fundie desperation, reaching for any straw. Even if Darwin happened to be the most egregious racist of the last 1000 years, it wouldn't change the validity of the science. This is a straw man argument and ad hominem attack in absentia. In other words, if you can't beat the science then attack the man.

Thank you for playing. Better luck next time.

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<quoted text> Yeh, mee stoopid. But att leest mee havs God on mee side. Wiff Him, NUFFING IMPOSSIBLE!! Hee-hee-hee!! Matthew 17:20 and 19:26, Mark 10:27, and Luke 18:27.
So far fundie creationists haven't been able to defeat the facts of science. You be good now yawl hear.
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JM_Brazil wrote:
<quoted text>Good posts Thulium, I recall anything negative I may have said - you've proven your worth, and its appreciated. Kudos.
Don't worry about it. Thanks!

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Sounds to me like y'all are just a bunch of old hippies blabbering your nonsense. Yep, really makes ya feel big insulting people on a marginally important website.
I'm a multi millionaire. My doctor told me to do this for the stress relief.

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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Even a manure spreader requires a load in order to spread it effectively. Why do you always show up here empty?
Is that the best defense you've got for the Dude's idiocy?....your own! ha,ha,ha.

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Irony meter go boom.
I DID answer you. I pointed out why entropy does not prevent evolution from occurring. As with every single other post I've ever made ever (this will quite likely apply to the future as well), you have failed to refute me.
And by the way, Livescience accepts all those scientific concepts you don't like for theological reasons, and rejects all the theological concepts you like for scientific reasons.
So in short you got caught lying for Jesus again. No wonder creationists are only taken seriously by the ignorant.(shrug)
The only thing that goes boom is the atomic bomb of stupidity you set off constantly! The concept that livescience is referring to is the one you stated is no problem to answer. Funny,...all their geniuses can't do it, but the all knowing Dude has the knowledge, you are one mother fukkking liar ,and always have been . Get back and check your debating points that you and the other puddle gooists live by.

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How can molecules "self assemble" to create life?
I'm not asking for wishful thinking.
What laws of chemistry are you referring to?
You have to have a helluva lot of faith to believe that

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Does it take "intelligence" to slap together two hydrogen atoms, and one oxygen atom to make a water molecule?
No,..its impossible , no one can be stupid enough to compare that with life self assembling. The force is strong in you young puddle padawan

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Go ask a tree.
Explain orthology Hooter.
You are an absolute fool,...

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NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Yeh, mee stoopid. But att leest mee havs God on mee side. Wiff Him, NUFFING IMPOSSIBLE!! Hee-hee-hee!! Matthew 17:20 and 19:26, Mark 10:27, and Luke 18:27.
Sorry, God is not on your side.

You are misreading a book that has been shown to be mostly myth.
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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>It is a good thing I don't consider you with regard to my religious, philosophical and scientific concerns. Thanks for the input on that though.
This is what they call an old canard. Race then meant species and had nothing to do with the races of man. From what I have read of Charles Darwin, he was a typical Englishman of the time and no more racist than the norm and apparently less than the norm. This is just fundie desperation, reaching for any straw. Even if Darwin happened to be the most egregious racist of the last 1000 years, it wouldn't change the validity of the science. This is a straw man argument and ad hominem attack in absentia. In other words, if you can't beat the science then attack the man.
Thank you for playing. Better luck next time.
See?? There you go changing and twisting the story yet again. It's not Fundamental Christianity being desperate. Read the FULL title of the freakin' book. I stand by what I believe - that RACES in the title could only ultimately imply RACES of MEN (humans).
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DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>So far fundie creationists haven't been able to defeat the facts of science. You be good now yawl hear.
Wel, if you look properly, the facts of science clearly support Creation. I don't know if you know your left shoe from your right, son.

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