Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223384 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112196 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well MAYBE, it's coz there are WAY MORE Christians living in the world than atheists?? DUH!! But, seriously, ATHEISM is the FASTEST GROWING belief system in the world right now. The proportion of Christians to atheists TODAY (say 95:5) could very well REVERSE within the NEXT TWO OR THREE GENERATIONS!! Could be looking at 95 ATHEISTS for every 5 CHRISTIANS WITHIN the next 60-70 years. The number of Evolutionists (such as yourself) will ALSO sharply rise. Religions such as Islam) will dwindle in numbers too, by then. Well, at least Xians like myself will be dead and gone by then (yay!!).
Nope, my claim was obviously by percentage.

In the U.S. atheists are underrepresented in prison by a factor of more than 10. With 5% of the population being atheist you would expect the same in prison, but you find a small fraction of one percent instead.

And yes, I do hope that our numbers go up over the years. It could only be good for the world.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112197 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Our "Buybull" may be FLAWED, but it is your "Origin of Faeces" that will be FLOORED (wink-wink!!).
Your stupid pun does not work in the U.S. since we know how to pronounce the letter "r" when it is at the end of a word.

And you poor idiot, did you not know that the theory of evolution has been tested for over 150 years and it is yet to fail a major test. That is amazing when there have been several new discoveries made, all of them that could have harmed the theory of evolution and instead they all helped it. The discovery of DNA could easily have shown the theory of evolution to be wrong. Instead it vastly increased its strength. The same goes for various other chemical discoveries.

You are just the idiot child drooling in the corner with the dunce cap on his head. You are making a lot of noise but you are not convincing anyone. As I said you are a weak faithed Christian that cannot accept the theory of evolution and your religion. You should be ashamed at yourself. Most Christians have no problem accepting the truth. What is wrong with you?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112198 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Oh, yeah. TIME is the GREAT HERO for you Evos. "It may not occur in a hundred, or a thousand, or even a million years, BUT if you give it a few ZILLION years, it WILL HAPPEN!!" TIME - the GREAT HERO of you Evos. Entropy INCREASES in closed systems. Yeah, well the UNIVERSE is a CLOSED SYSTEM. Also, we are WORSE - WAY worse - than we were hundreds of years ago.
For processes that are slow (like evolution and the changes in stars), time is a relevant factor. Of course it doesn't do away with all issues because the universe has only been around a finite amount of time.

Yes, the entropy of the universe as a whole does increase. But that doesn't mean it can't decrease in small areas like the surface of the Earth which are driven by an external energy source.

As for being worse than a hundred years ago, I simply say BS. We are healthier, have less violent death, less death from disease, higher productivity in our work, more free time, etc, etc, etc. We have gone backwards in a few areas: our education is worse (at least for the well educated) and we have become more superstitious again.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112199 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
Tell me, SZ, is it true that there are six ways of evolution but only one of them is true - microevolution?? I think microevolution is changes WITHIN a species. That's why you get different breeds of cat, dog, monkey, horse, cow etc. But a cat will always be a cat, and a dog will always be a dog (God made every animal after it's OWN KIND - read Genesis in the Bible). I haven't seen any half cat-half dogs walking around (LOL!!). If Evolution says there ARE interspecies-type life forms, where is any evidence of these transitional forms of life?? OR, if they USED to exist but are no longer existing, then WHERE is the FOSSIL EVIDENCE of them?? Just asking, SZ.
No, you have been listening to a convicted felon that could not even follow what his own Bible, what Jesus himself said about taxation.

And you are asking a moronic question. Try harder and you will get an answer. Here is a hint, don't trust convicted liars with fake degrees from a Bible "university" when it comes to science.

I gave you a shot and you could not come up with anything.

And to answer an earlier post, yes you do seem to be a troll. Your idiocy will drive people to the theory of evolution and that is one thing I can be thankful for.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112200 Apr 26, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and ignorance is bliss, eh? That things were better in the "good old days" is a just romantic notion.
Things are worse in some ways and much better in many others. That's just how it goes and always has. Are you worse off without the mongol horde and bubonic plague? Are you worse off without a world war and with modern medicine and a standard 40 hour workweek? Is satellite communication or the internet a bad thing? Do you propose that we should shut down the schools and universities because some feel that they are a threat their superstitious dogmas?
Well, one thing I know is that people CARED back then. This new generation of kids (I don't know if your demographic fits that category)- MAN!!- they are SO SELFISH. Just SELF-SERVING to the MAX!! Absolutely NO consideration for others. When I was a kid (about 12 or 13 in the mid-70's)everyone had a GENUINE LOVE and CONCERN for one another. You would be hard-pressed to find that in today's world. Everyone - ESPECIALLY the young generation - are so UP THEMSELVES. They don't give a damn about ANYONE. Except, of course, for their OWN welfare. Mind you, if you read the Bible (2 Timothy chapter 3 for instance), it says that days like these times we're in now would see SELFISH people such as the young folk we have today. Yeah, we have all the wonderful flashy technology, and we have without doubt MORE material wealth than we've EVER had before, AND we have STACKS of KNOWLEDGE (THAT is without DOUBT), MORE knowledge than at ANY OTHER TIME throughout human history. But what I am driving at, is DO WE LOVE one another as we used to?? Do we have a GENUINELY CARING society?? How many neighbors living up and down your street do you actually KNOW?? When I was a kid, my parents (when they were alive back then) not only knew the names of most of our neighbors in our street, but actually took the time to KNOW them. personally. You'll never find that these days. Not in a zillion years.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112201 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Nighty-Night, SZ. The LORD LOVES YOU!! God Bless you.
And don't forget that the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER boiled for your sins.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112202 Apr 26, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is chock full of errors and fabrications. There isn't any good reason to deny it.
Then why has the Bible stood the test of time all these centuries?? There must be SOMETHING VALID in it for it to have lasted that long.

Level 1

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#112203 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, one thing I know is that people CARED back then. This new generation of kids (I don't know if your demographic fits that category)- MAN!!- they are SO SELFISH. Just SELF-SERVING to the MAX!! Absolutely NO consideration for others. When I was a kid (about 12 or 13 in the mid-70's)everyone had a GENUINE LOVE and CONCERN for one another. You would be hard-pressed to find that in today's world. Everyone - ESPECIALLY the young generation - are so UP THEMSELVES. They don't give a damn about ANYONE. Except, of course, for their OWN welfare. Mind you, if you read the Bible (2 Timothy chapter 3 for instance), it says that days like these times we're in now would see SELFISH people such as the young folk we have today. Yeah, we have all the wonderful flashy technology, and we have without doubt MORE material wealth than we've EVER had before, AND we have STACKS of KNOWLEDGE (THAT is without DOUBT), MORE knowledge than at ANY OTHER TIME throughout human history. But what I am driving at, is DO WE LOVE one another as we used to?? Do we have a GENUINELY CARING society?? How many neighbors living up and down your street do you actually KNOW?? When I was a kid, my parents (when they were alive back then) not only knew the names of most of our neighbors in our street, but actually took the time to KNOW them. personally. You'll never find that these days. Not in a zillion years.
funny, but I grew up in the 60's & 70's and clearly remember the older generation of adults saying we were the most self absorbed, selfish unruly generation to date. Growing up in the 40'ss & 50's they had more responsibility and cared more for each other
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112204 Apr 26, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
I remind fundamentalist liars for Jesus of that far more often than I should have to.
Well at least they "lie" for a man (actually, the Son of God). Better than you lot lying for those monkey relatives in your local zoo, huh??
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112205 Apr 26, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, my claim was obviously by percentage.
In the U.S. atheists are underrepresented in prison by a factor of more than 10. With 5% of the population being atheist you would expect the same in prison, but you find a small fraction of one percent instead.
And yes, I do hope that our numbers go up over the years. It could only be good for the world.
"It could only be good for the world." I'll remember that.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112206 Apr 26, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Your stupid pun does not work in the U.S. since we know how to pronounce the letter "r" when it is at the end of a word.
And you poor idiot, did you not know that the theory of evolution has been tested for over 150 years and it is yet to fail a major test. That is amazing when there have been several new discoveries made, all of them that could have harmed the theory of evolution and instead they all helped it. The discovery of DNA could easily have shown the theory of evolution to be wrong. Instead it vastly increased its strength. The same goes for various other chemical discoveries.
You are just the idiot child drooling in the corner with the dunce cap on his head. You are making a lot of noise but you are not convincing anyone. As I said you are a weak faithed Christian that cannot accept the theory of evolution and your religion. You should be ashamed at yourself. Most Christians have no problem accepting the truth. What is wrong with you?
You're talking bollocks. Man, have YOU been brainwashed.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112207 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> You're talking bollocks. Man, have YOU been brainwashed.
Now come on, if you idiots had a case against evolution you could show it.

Let's see a link to a scientific article that debunks evolution.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112208 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well at least they "lie" for a man (actually, the Son of God). Better than you lot lying for those monkey relatives in your local zoo, huh??
Don't be a fool. If we were lying other scientists could show that we are.

It is fun to watch poor brain dead wafer munchers try to deny the obvious.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#112209 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> You're talking bollocks. Man, have YOU been brainwashed.
No, we really can pronounce the letter "r" at the end of words. I could probably even teach you the proper way to pronounce that particular letter.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112210 Apr 26, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
For processes that are slow (like evolution and the changes in stars), time is a relevant factor. Of course it doesn't do away with all issues because the universe has only been around a finite amount of time.
Yes, the entropy of the universe as a whole does increase. But that doesn't mean it can't decrease in small areas like the surface of the Earth which are driven by an external energy source.
As for being worse than a hundred years ago, I simply say BS. We are healthier, have less violent death, less death from disease, higher productivity in our work, more free time, etc, etc, etc. We have gone backwards in a few areas: our education is worse (at least for the well educated) and we have become more superstitious again.
Look, either something happens, or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then you can throw all the time at it that you wanna - but it will NEVER happen. That is, unless YOU (intelligence) causes something to happen. Secondly, the universe (as I've said before) is a CLOSED system. This ULTIMATELY means that everything in the universe will lose energy and eventually lose heat (along with order), slow down, come to a standstill, freeze, then die. Something OUTSIDE of the universe needs to keep it and everything in it, from essentially DYING. WHAT, or more particularly, WHO, is this external FORCE?? Thirdly, you are right in that we have PROGRESSED in MANY ways. I don't argue with you about that. But overall, have we progressed?? Think about it.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112211 Apr 26, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you have been listening to a convicted felon that could not even follow what his own Bible, what Jesus himself said about taxation.
And you are asking a moronic question. Try harder and you will get an answer. Here is a hint, don't trust convicted liars with fake degrees from a Bible "university" when it comes to science.
I gave you a shot and you could not come up with anything.
And to answer an earlier post, yes you do seem to be a troll. Your idiocy will drive people to the theory of evolution and that is one thing I can be thankful for.
Oh, Lord. I'm dealing with CLOWNS!! "Forgive them, for they know not what they do."
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112212 Apr 26, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
funny, but I grew up in the 60's & 70's and clearly remember the older generation of adults saying we were the most self absorbed, selfish unruly generation to date. Growing up in the 40'ss & 50's they had more responsibility and cared more for each other
Then, God forbid, it must be EVEN WORSE now!!

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112213 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> Well, HELLO!! Darwin was WRONG. I think he himself EVENTUALLY ADMITTED he was WRONG, not long before he died. THIS is the FATHER of EVOLUTIONARY THEORY!! At the end of his book,'On The Origin Of Species' he mentions the "Creator" BUT in subsequent copies of the book, this word (Creator) is mysteriously MISSING. Why??
False story written by your handlers.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#112214 Apr 26, 2014
NOISY TOILET wrote:
<quoted text> It says in the Bible that GOD is a SPIRIT. Would you dare say HE lives in a dreamworld?? ESPECIALLY if and when you are standing RIGHT BEFORE HIM on J-Day?? I will feel deeply sorry for both you and any other non-believer on that day. MORE - MUCH MORE souls will be cast into the fiery furnace of HELL on that terrible day, than those who will enter through the pearly gates of Heaven. We're talking a percentage ratio of 99:1. FEW - VERY FEW souls will go to the GLORY of Heaven on that day. Will YOU be one of the chosen few?? I sincerely hope you will be!!
No,*you* are living in a dream world. You believe in a spirit when there is NO evidence to support your belief. You think that faith is a good thing, when in actuality it a an avoidance of the responsibility to think.

Listen carefully: we do not believe in your myths.
NOISY TOILET

Tauranga, New Zealand

#112215 Apr 26, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Now come on, if you idiots had a case against evolution you could show it.
Let's see a link to a scientific article that debunks evolution.
You only have to look on here (the Net) and you'll find the answer.

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