Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 197489 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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MrBob Jones

Canada

#111881 Apr 22, 2014
spocko wrote:
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What else would you expect? The science behind evolution is solid no scientist is fighting over it - unlike you freaking morons who have nothing other than foolish gibberish ...
What did you mean you freaking morons i did not say I'm a creationists and its not solid it honestly is full of holes you can chose to believe it i dont care but take time to look at all the possible holes instead of only focussing on the solid stuff

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#111882 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob Jones wrote:
<quoted text>What did you mean you freaking morons i did not say I'm a creationists and its not solid it honestly is full of holes you can chose to believe it i dont care but take time to look at all the possible holes instead of only focussing on the solid stuff
"...and completely disregard the need for any punctuation whatsoever, as it is EXTREMELY exhausting to use. I mean all of those periods, and commas....jeeze!"

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#111883 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob Jones wrote:
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Well idk theres been many christian scientists,
There have. But they don't let their religious beliefs get in the way of their science.
MrBob Jones wrote:
and you've obviously been sitting on your ass alot longer, as this is my fourth post compared to your 50th,
I imagine you think you're making a point here. What is it?
MrBob Jones wrote:
and because you spoke in past tense, when you said "have been teachers",says alot. Thanks
I used both present and past tense, doofus. However, to answer your silly "says a lot" comment, I was a high school teacher. I have also taught in business schools and at the college level. I am currently a supervisor in a very large public school system.

What has your contribution to society been? Besides dumbass remarks, I mean.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#111884 Apr 22, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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"...and completely disregard the need for any punctuation whatsoever, as it is EXTREMELY exhausting to use. I mean all of those periods, and commas....jeeze!"
You have to chuckle at someone who calls other morons yet they can't even use proper English.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#111886 Apr 22, 2014
thulium wrote:
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Light --> matter
Einstein's discovery of the law of photoelectric effect and E=MC2. There are explanations to them.
But no explanation how light affected matter in the beginning of time when matter was formed. Like I said poly, I have such imagination. lol
Actually, the *light* was in the form of high energy gamma rays at that point. And we do know how such can produce matter. it is a frequently used technique. The real issue is why there is an abundance of matter versus anti-matter. But even that is subject to explanation given the cross sections for decay of some of the particles were are currently studying.

And, once again, the claim you made is that there cannot be an explanation. I see it as likely there *is* an explanation that we simply haven't found as yet.

Perhaps you need to stop imagining quite as much and start actually learning what the evidence is and what it means.

“Seventh son”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#111888 Apr 22, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Just put your trust in Evolution and everything will be OK
Pass the Koolaid
The trust is in the evidence that stands UNREFUTED!
MrBob jones

Canada

#111889 Apr 22, 2014
MikeF wrote:
I imagine you think you're making a point here. What is it?
That youve honestly been on this site alot longer just sitting around on the computer and i am actually a pshycologist

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#111890 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob jones wrote:
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That youve honestly been on this site alot longer just sitting around on the computer and i am actually a pshycologist
Uh.....

....Yeah.
thulium

Perris, CA

#111891 Apr 22, 2014
polymath257 wrote:
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Actually, the *light* was in the form of high energy gamma rays at that point. And we do know how such can produce matter. it is a frequently used technique. The real issue is why there is an abundance of matter versus anti-matter. But even that is subject to explanation given the cross sections for decay of some of the particles were are currently studying.
And, once again, the claim you made is that there cannot be an explanation. I see it as likely there *is* an explanation that we simply haven't found as yet.
Perhaps you need to stop imagining quite as much and start actually learning what the evidence is and what it means.
So now you're getting into Higgs Boson, the God Particle. lol

Actually what we can demonstrate in a lab is matter creating artificial light. I have not heard of a type of light creating matter, only converting matter into another form. Don't worry, I use my imaginations for something useful. And I just enrolled in Physics class in Mechanics and Wave and I know this is an Evolution forum so perhaps it would not help answer my questions.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#111892 Apr 22, 2014
thulium wrote:
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So now you're getting into Higgs Boson, the God Particle. lol
Actually what we can demonstrate in a lab is matter creating artificial light. I have not heard of a type of light creating matter, only converting matter into another form. Don't worry, I use my imaginations for something useful. And I just enrolled in Physics class in Mechanics and Wave and I know this is an Evolution forum so perhaps it would not help answer my questions.
Hehehee....."artificial light".

You cant make this shit up.
thulium

Perris, CA

#111893 Apr 22, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Hehehee....."artificial light".
You cant make this shit up.
oh lighten up Kong, go to a disco or something. lol

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111894 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob Jones wrote:
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Haha I'm not saying that, they do all that too, i just find that evolutionists get alot more defensive and arrogant... No offence
Oddly, I find that the creationists are more arrogant and defensive and often that they make this claim that it is others who are so.

I don't care if it offends you are not, but it is honest.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111895 Apr 22, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Just put your trust in Evolution and everything will be OK
Pass the Koolaid
I see that whatever pretense of an argument you had has gone by the wayside. Interesting choice considering it was a religious group that drank poison koolaid and not a group of scientists.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#111896 Apr 22, 2014
thulium wrote:
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So now you're getting into Higgs Boson, the God Particle. lol
Actually what we can demonstrate in a lab is matter creating artificial light. I have not heard of a type of light creating matter, only converting matter into another form. Don't worry, I use my imaginations for something useful. And I just enrolled in Physics class in Mechanics and Wave and I know this is an Evolution forum so perhaps it would not help answer my questions.
First, I'll give you a *BIT* of credit. There is actually light from "artificial SOURCES", but light is light, each being composed of photons. And there are no "artificial photons".

Since the person you are responding to (above) is Polymath, who has -- correct me if I'm wrong, Poly -- a PhD in Math, and is very close to his PhD in Physics, I would think you could learn a BUNCH from him.

As could I.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111897 Apr 22, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Hehehee....."artificial light".
You cant make this shit up.
Same great illumination, but half the calories. For those that don't care for Natural Light.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111898 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob jones wrote:
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That youve honestly been on this site alot longer just sitting around on the computer and i am actually a pshycologist
Now you are a psychologist. Before you were a high school student that didn't pay attention to his step daddy. At least you were trying hard to be perceived as a high schooler. What will you be tomorrow?

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111899 Apr 22, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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OK DUDE
Name every single species and cite the fossil record (where it was found and where it is stored) going back to the beginning of time that demonstrates without a shadow of doubt that man "evolved" from a man-ape form. Do not skip any section of time and cite multiple sources for each phase.
Good Luck
BTW I know you can not even come close so just say "I Give Up" I accept Evolution on Faith in my 6 grade Science teacher
Even if someone were to make an effort to do this and support your argument for you. I don't have any reason to believe that you would understand it, or even know if the job was done well or not.

Another lazy, fat-assed, fundie trying to get others to provide the evidence in support of their bullshit claims.

You have no idea whether this can be done or not. But like any good fundie, if at first you don't succeed, lie, lie again.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#111900 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob Jones wrote:
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What did you mean you freaking morons i did not say I'm a creationists and its not solid it honestly is full of holes you can chose to believe it i dont care but take time to look at all the possible holes instead of only focussing on the solid stuff
Most of what you say is garbage, that was easily explained to you and refuted. Whatever else you said or didn't say is irrelevant.

For instance, all the possible holes does not mean actual holes. Possible holes can be holes or they can not be holes. What you say has no meaning with regard to the validity of the fossil record. You don't know a thing about how to review, evaluate and base conclusions on evidence. I don't need to see every step in a trail to know where it is going. You...well best of luck finding the path.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#111901 Apr 22, 2014
MrBob jones wrote:
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That youve honestly been on this site alot longer just sitting around on the computer and i am actually a pshycologist
And I'm an ASTRONAUT....AND A COWBOY!

WHEEEEE!

Level 2

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#111902 Apr 22, 2014
bohart wrote:
.....From live science.com
The 9 biggest unsolved mysteries of physics,...by Natale Wolchover
#7....Why is there an arrow of time?
.... Time moves forward because of a property of the universe called entropy , roughly defined as the level of disorder , only increases, and so there is no way to reverse a rise in entropy after it has occurred. The fact that entropy increases is a matter of logic, there are more disordered arrangements of particles than there are ordered arrangements , and so as things change , they tend to fall into disarray. But the underlying question here is , why was entropy so low in the past? Put differently why was the universe so ordered at its beginning , when a huge amount of energy was crammed together in a small amount of space?..
Now this is a mystery to science , but I've no doubt they've never consulted the geniuses here on this thread.
I especially like the part ,...as things change ,they tend to fall into disarray.
here Dude,..answer the question

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