Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 199467 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#110991 Apr 10, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Name 2 specific species and the 3rd that "Evolved" from the previous 2.
Why is a mule sterile? Two species a donkey and a horse breed the mule and it is sterile, it can not reproduce. This proves Evolution will not work
You are truly a scholar of science. You have trumped the whole of biological science. You are right you don't get a species by crossbreeding two existing species.

You don't understand anything about how biology works and probably never will.

Let me state this for you clearly. The mule is a hybrid resulting from the breeding of two species. It is not a new species. New species arise from pre-existing species to be sure, but they are jettisoned from the loins of their ancestors ready made.

The meek may inherit the earth, but I need you to tell me what the stupid are supposed inherit.

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#110992 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
Ok i can see now that theres no point in arguing on here as most of you act like a bunch of six year olds who arent willing to give up on a stupid point so let me ask you this why do you chose to believe in evolution wouldnt it be so much better to believe in christianity i mean atleast then you have a chance to live hapilly forever if you except God in your heart, honestly that like the one thing you have to do to get to heaven where youll live eternally with a someone whos love is unending,God, instead of what you believe that we werent made for a purpose and that when we die theres nothing and that itll be like we never existed because if we dont have a purpose and we arent ment for a greater good then what really is the point to life except to die eventually
Why do you think you have to choose between a belief in God and acceptance of the facts of reality? Evolution is a science and not a religion. If you believe that it is, you are mistaken or misinformed.

Despite what I believe, I have nothing supporting those beliefs except faith. However, in my quest to understand the world around me, science has provided a methodology, tools and evidence to support what I learn. Do you really believe that people of faith, any faith, can't or are forbidden to understand the world around them?

“Dinosaurs survived the flood!”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

Jesus probably rode dinosaurs!

#110993 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Well i dont think that those people really are christians you cant believe in both one goes against everything in the bible
So you are able to judge what a real Christian is, You must be God, for I cannot.

Science isn't against the Bible, it doesn't support or refute the existence of God or any god. What it has done is show that there is no evidence to support certain stories in the Bible. This doesn't alter the Bible as a basis for the Christian religion or reduce its theological significance. The facts and findings of science only impact those that insist that the Bible be viewed as literal and ignore all the inconsistencies found therein.
Nick

Canada

#110994 Apr 10, 2014
Kong_ wrote:
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Ah.
So now you're advising God Himself who *IS* and who *ISN'T* a True Christian™.
Good to know.
(Psst: Matt 7:2-5)
Im just saying that if theres evolution then the bibles a lie so you cant believe in both
Nick

Canada

#110995 Apr 10, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>So you are able to judge what a real Christian is, You must be God, for I cannot.
Science isn't against the Bible, it doesn't support or refute the existence of God or any god. What it has done is show that there is no evidence to support certain stories in the Bible. This doesn't alter the Bible as a basis for the Christian religion or reduce its theological significance. The facts and findings of science only impact those that insist that the Bible be viewed as literal and ignore all the inconsistencies found therein.
Ok but if evolution is real that goes against all of genesis and if genesis is wrong then it ties into other parts of the bible and then the bible would be wrong so you simply cant have both evolution and christianity

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#110996 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Im just saying that if theres evolution then the bibles a lie so you cant believe in both
Another all or nothing idiot.

Did you know that worldwide most Christians accept the theory of evolution.

Most Christians know that the Noah's Ark story is just a myth.

All of the physical evidence support evolution and none of it supports the various Genesis myths.

Perhaps we can help you a bit with the science.

“Seventh son”

Level 8

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#110997 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
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No im asking why you'd rather believe in being a useless pile of dna without purpose rather than a person created by a loving God who gave you a purpose
I'm sorry , the answer doesn't have to be either one of your highly imaginative and illustrious
scenarios. Since there is absolutely zero evidence for either, it is suggesting by simple reasoning..... that there maybe a third answer that totally escapes you.

Since: Nov 07

St. James, NY

#110998 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
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No im asking why you'd rather believe in being a useless pile of dna without purpose rather than a person created by a loving God who gave you a purpose
What you or I or anyone else would prefer is irrelevant. I would prefer there to be no disease. But the facts of reality don't give a damn what I prefer. Things are what they are, please don't get upset at the scientists for discovering a universe different from the one you would prefer.

Second, people can have purpose without a God to give them one.

Third, evolution being true does not eliminate God, so if you 'prefer', you can accept what science says about evolution and still obtain your purpose from your belief in God.

Since: Nov 07

St. James, NY

#110999 Apr 10, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Ok but if evolution is real that goes against all of genesis and if genesis is wrong then it ties into other parts of the bible and then the bible would be wrong so you simply cant have both evolution and christianity
Allegorical does not mean lie.

“I started out with nothing”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#111000 Apr 11, 2014
JM_Brazil wrote:
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Sorry to intervene Christine, but there's no need to curse - the lady chained to the kitchen sink will deliver a beer with simply "Beer", or on lighter occasions, when the mood is lifted, "Beer please". Calling her a bitch is simply unnecessary.
Just writing my feelings based on the flavour of ChromiuMan’s misogyny and it seems like you have a bit of a testosterone overdose too only yours seem less pronounced, as if that makes it all ok! Get you own beer you bone idle, limp d*ck*d as*hole – edited to protect your delicate sensibilities and spoken in the tone required of your insulting post.

If that moron (or you or anyone) attempts to insult my gender simply to big up their egotestical (correct spelling) BS when they fail to put a mere woman down with the male logic of ‘because he says so then’ I have every right to respond in any way I feel is appropriate.

Sorry you don’t like it but may I suggest you have are word with your misogynous buddy who started the insults

As is sometimes said,‘it’s all good fun until someone looses an eye’ and I think you should know that my specs shatterproof

“I started out with nothing”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#111001 Apr 11, 2014
ChromiuMan wrote:
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I'm not impressed with your over-reaction. I've told guys not to get their panties in a wad, too. Are you ashamed of your sex? Do you have issues about wearing women's clothing? I'm terribly sorry about that, but it's way out of my field.
I agree with Charles that English came from England. Big deal. Russian comes from Russia, French comes from France, Finnish comes from Finland... Chuck gets the "owns" part a little nutty, but then, you seem to want English to have come from France. 0.o
Actually, I don't drink, I don't use words like b*tch and I don't believe in behaviors that you describe. There are probably a dozen religies, rednecks and Republicans you might ask regarding my stated opinions on their treating women like chattel.
None of this has anything to do with Evolution debate. I'm not going to entertain you with this matter any further.
I don’t really care about your sexist attitude, it’s dated, worn out and not relevant, however if that’s what turns you on, go for it. Just don’t expect be to fall over and swoon at the stink of male sweat and p|ss.

WTF has your deliberate abuse got to do with gender or clothing. You vomited the abuse because you could not beat a mere docile woman in a basic argument of FACT.

Why do you keep insisting that I want the English language to come from France? You are very limited and blinkered in your understanding – must be a man thing. I have repeatedly provided the facts, figures and documents, not only for words of French origin but German, Danish etc, even Indian and Chinese. I have repeated stated that English is a Germanic based language with influence from other languages. You seem to be obsessed with the French influence of our language, why the ‘aversion’? You are making specious and irrelevant connections about two different aspects that are centred hundreds of years apart.

I don’t care what you like or how you behave in private, I can only see how you behave on topix. When you choose to insult my gender with sexist slurs simply because you cannot have your own way then you get exactly what you ask for. If you don’t like it then you know what you can do about it.

Charles changed the subject, I simply countered his wet dreams with fact and that’s when our dear Charles went into full rant mode for over 12 months. Of course you know the reason why, the very same reason you are bottling out of this discussion now, because you cannot win against fact in the same way that Charles can’t. Oh sure he can continue repeating the same old same old but that makes no difference to fact.

And such a common copout, if you are unwilling to admit defeat in the face of evidence then perhaps you should not have started in the first place.

Anyway thanks for the entertainment, have fun..

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#111002 Apr 11, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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such a common copout, if you are unwilling to admit defeat in the face of evidence then perhaps you should not have started in the first place.
You've hardly paid any attention to what I've actually stated and I'm over the repetition. Your sexist vulgarity and abusive demeanor is uncalled for. If it will assuage your hurts for me to cop out and admit defeat then fine, men are swine, women are saints, France owns almost half of the English language and Germany owns the rest. Happy?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#111003 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
Ok i can see now that theres no point in arguing on here as most of you act like a bunch of six years who arent willing to give up on a stupid point so let me ask you this why do you chose to believe in evolution wouldnt it be so much better to believe in christianity i mean atleast then you have a chance to love hapilly forever if you except God in your heart honestly that like the one thing you have to do to get to heaven where youll live eternally instead of what you believe that we werent made for a purpouse and that when we die theres nothing and that itll be like we never existed so them thered be no reason to do anything except one day die sp why do you chose to believe it even if theres so many holes in the evolutionary theory
What prevents anyone from accepting both a god and evolution?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#111004 Apr 11, 2014
WhtPwr5000 wrote:
It's real simple people!! The earth was created in seven days by God almighty! Science.. All these so called "facts" are nothing but more of Obama's socialist propaganda!
And, of course, Obama was responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Schmuck.
WhtPwr5000 wrote:
Listen to your gut.
That's just gas. Try to stay away from Mexican food.
WhtPwr5000 wrote:
God created Man in His image! All of mankind descended from one man and one woman. Those skeletal remains of Cromagnum and Homosapien are just the bones of deformed retards. Read a book!! And that book should be the Bible and nothing else!
Clueless, nuts, spam.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#111005 Apr 11, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Just writing my feelings based on the flavour of ChromiuMan’s misogyny and it seems like you have a bit of a testosterone overdose too only yours seem less pronounced, as if that makes it all ok! Get you own beer you bone idle, limp d*ck*d as*hole – edited to protect your delicate sensibilities and spoken in the tone required of your insulting post.
If that moron (or you or anyone) attempts to insult my gender simply to big up their egotestical (correct spelling) BS when they fail to put a mere woman down with the male logic of ‘because he says so then’ I have every right to respond in any way I feel is appropriate.
Sorry you don’t like it but may I suggest you have are word with your misogynous buddy who started the insults
As is sometimes said,‘it’s all good fun until someone looses an eye’ and I think you should know that my specs shatterproof
Hi Christine, you have to understand that I have a warped sense of humor, and meant nothing other than to make light of one of your comments. Apologies for leading you to believe that I was targeting you, or that I am sexist. I wasn't, and I'm not. My wife and I are both working professionals and rarely encounter each other at home - if I asked her to "fetch" me a beer, I'd get nothing but sarcastic laughter in return. I could never be that kind of guy.

In fact I respect your persistence. If I WERE to speak my mind, I would say there's a difference between kicking a dead horse, and raising one with a crane to try to make it walk again. Let the language thing go. I agree with your points, and think we can all agree - English came from England. Lets close that book.
Nick

Canada

#111006 Apr 11, 2014
MikeF wrote:
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What prevents anyone from accepting both a god and evolution?
Because evolution goes against the bible and them if the bibles wrong them most of the things we believe in are wrong so you cant really have both
Nick

Canada

#111007 Apr 11, 2014
Discord wrote:
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What you or I or anyone else would prefer is irrelevant. I would prefer there to be no disease. But the facts of reality don't give a damn what I prefer. Things are what they are, please don't get upset at the scientists for discovering a universe different from the one you would prefer.
Second, people can have purpose without a God to give them one.
Third, evolution being true does not eliminate God, so if you 'prefer', you can accept what science says about evolution and still obtain your purpose from your belief in God.
Bit it does if evolution is true then cant you see so much of the bible would be wrong and therefore creationism would be wrong
Nick

Canada

#111008 Apr 11, 2014
Discord wrote:
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Allegorical does not mean lie.
But the while of the bible isnt allegorical countless event in it have been backed up by fact

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#111009 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Im just saying that if theres evolution then the bibles a lie so you cant believe in both
I'll disagree with you on two points. First, the fact that the bible is incorrect does not mean it's a lie. Lying is a deliberate action to obscure the truth. Simply being wrong does not constitute a falsehood.

Secondly, you CAN believe in the message of the bible as well as evolution. It is only when the holier-than-thou (you know, the types that dictate who is and who is not a Christian) insist on a literal interpretation that we have a problem.

If you believe in a creator then you must accept the evidence that he left us in the form of the universe. If you deny the evidence present in the universe then you are denying your creator. What is written in a old book of unknown origin aside.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#111010 Apr 11, 2014
Nick wrote:
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Ok but if evolution is real that goes against all of genesis and if genesis is wrong then it ties into other parts of the bible and then the bible would be wrong so you simply cant have both evolution and christianity
I repeat, it is a book of unknown origin.

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