Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216925 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#110904 Apr 9, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Well pasted from all the anti-science propaganda material. Previously refuted here, in the field, in the laboratory, the science literature and court.
Good spotting. I thought there was something a little suspicious about his usage of grammar, what with it being correct and all. Shame his science wasn't.

Yes, people, turns out SevenTee so doesn't have a clue he resorted to google to copy-paste any old BS which he liked the sound of, then left out the proper citation. The difference with us, we tend to use our own words, THEN use a citation to back ourselves up to show that we're not making stuff up. And then we can usually discuss the subject.

Dishonesty is the creationist's modus operandi.
Chemist

Moyock, NC

#110905 Apr 9, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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But "prof", you made a mistake before you even finished your first sentence. So you've got no chance of getting there.
<quoted text>
Which only demonstrates that creationism is as inconsistent as we've always thought. Meaning you don't have a scientific argument.
<quoted text>
You're a little short,'prof'.
<quoted text>
Wrong. You talking about shrimp? Coelecanth? They are NOT the same as today, however since evolution doesn't insist on uniform mutation rates all across the board your point is moot anyway.
So why not cut the BS about you having a better scientific explanation and just say that you don't believe in evolution cuz the Bible sez Goddidit with magic? It would save a lot of time.
Bye bye then.
You are mistaken, God did it out of great love not majic. Love, something else that can never be measured, identified or prooven. Yet I think we would all agree love exists. I pray we will also agree, creationism and evolution are not science based but faith based and therefor should be left out of science classes. More appropriately these beliefs as to our existence should be in theology classes. As for a better scientific explanation, there can never be one since the conditions and observations of today can never be proven to be true in the begining.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#110906 Apr 9, 2014
Chemist wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken, God did it out of great love not majic. Love, something else that can never be measured, identified or prooven. Yet I think we would all agree love exists. I pray we will also agree, and evolution are not science based but faith based and therefor should be left out of science classes. More appropriately these beliefs as to our existence should be in theology classes. As for a better scientific explanation, there can never be one since the conditions and observations of today can never be proven to be true in the begining.
Except there *IS* evidence for evolution, whether or not YOU accept it.

Evolution is science, and it will continue to be taught in US public schools.
Creationism is religion, and is illegal to be taught in those schools.

Teach creationism at church, at home, or on the corner of 1st and Main.
But not in public schools.

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110907 Apr 9, 2014
Uhu...sure and all is GOOD...

No attention placed none ever again...

What and who are you????

I think I will have a bite to eat...

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#110908 Apr 9, 2014
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>I assume you are referring to that small number of scientists and pseudoscientists that support ID and young earth creationism. They weren't ignored. What they said has been evaluated and shown not to be supported by a evidence and the basic tenants to be untestable and thus not science. It can't even hold up in court. You said it yourself. It is belief. That is what you clearly have.
Denial and ignorance have no age barrier.
I hope Nick doesn't listen to a thing you are saying as far as what has barriers and not...Who has RIGHTS there are some that actually do...
As far as COURT which one?

To what Nation under one ROOF????

Hey tuff times not just a few selected anymore...To Elites and though it can make things tuffer from tuff to tougher... it's a getting through alright...Ruff and BUFF...

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#110909 Apr 9, 2014
P ass and Jesus himself did HE CALL HIMSELF ONE????

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#110910 Apr 9, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Good spotting. I thought there was something a little suspicious about his usage of grammar, what with it being correct and all. Shame his science wasn't.
Yes, people, turns out SevenTee so doesn't have a clue he resorted to google to copy-paste any old BS which he liked the sound of, then left out the proper citation. The difference with us, we tend to use our own words, THEN use a citation to back ourselves up to show that we're not making stuff up. And then we can usually discuss the subject.
Dishonesty is the creationist's modus operandi.
I don't agree with that last part of your post at all...

modus as to simply? MODIS Plural...Placed and put to creation is to a nourishing factor...

To then as it is placed in which way two sides for sure surely...

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110911 Apr 9, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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No, you're still not making much sense. Sorry.
Asking ...and I really am supposed to care?
To what one two and wait hey who are you in connection with...Life style prone to what pray call on someone in some need of a break down...

Always got some backing>???

Through a group of men? Best pals buds one or two???

Anyway I don't care be that way...

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#110912 Apr 9, 2014
ok munch time...
That by the way was meant as a reply not just hanging in mid posting air...

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#110913 Apr 9, 2014
Oh be careful what you put inside of you what you feed on it may blow you up...

Bloat that is to the point you have a blow out...

OH THANK GOD FOR A SHITTER....It's like there no public bathrooms much same ole whaaa whaaaa '

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#110914 Apr 9, 2014
So what the freak as to care...

Hey maybe NASA lost a planet another one Pluto was just one a start?

Mis-placed, what exactly was it's discovery? That it doesn't belong...

Is that supposed to mean something Ironic?

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110915 Apr 9, 2014
I can tell you one thing creation ...AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT of having one more to bring one in...I will never have another child...

That I leave to good ole memory...

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110916 Apr 9, 2014
Unless there would be assurances and securities away from Religion...

Be'cause for that you would in case of assistance need something more...

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110917 Apr 9, 2014
Rain man and what parts...

They say it is close at hand an end...well to assume it could be...

What has one learned?

Do you put claim in any of that are you certified in something took title classified?

Fun fun when it is done...

DONE? SON???

Man I have heard some bizarre things in my time I suppose some I don't even re-call at the moment and to some strange thought you think let's see how much could think up and or not to letting go....

One that wants to understand?

For what as to what their day holds...

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110918 Apr 9, 2014
If one of self has that strict focal point in discussion it's hard to see the names..that is true...Maybe best so in what he said she said...

Do...

I can tell you what I could be doing...

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110919 Apr 9, 2014
To what an exact placed on would?

Done and did...

Some of your fine specimen here can we compare????

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110920 Apr 9, 2014
P.s.
Honestly never lose all of the care an Universal love in chain command hand in hand,cheek to cheek to where how far till New Year...

Fireworks Pop Champaign...

To feel...

So Science and to creation...

How many sub not to contradict Knowledge for that would always leave the test to default against...Sub divisions?

Proof ?

So seems one didn't know???

What would that be exactly what all really could be in existence?

DR.. GOOD OLE PHILL....

“I am an ALIEN!!!”

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#110921 Apr 9, 2014
And then I am thinking as much as it always seems you guys love to talk bash put down it gets freakishly quiet???

!!!! yep, it does...

Be that way....so I must still care somewhat...or I truly would have stopped with that post stating that I DO NOT...
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#110922 Apr 9, 2014
Chemist wrote:
You are mistaken, God did it out of great love not majic.
Oh? Can you demonstrate that such an entity exists via the scientific method?
Chemist wrote:
Love, something else that can never be measured, identified or prooven.
Sure it can. It's a positive emotion which therefore sends out particular chemical reactions to particular areas of the brain, and on an external behavioural level, can be observed in contrast to something such as, say, aggression.
Chemist wrote:
Yet I think we would all agree love exists.
And the reason is because I've just demonstrated how it can be detected empirically via the scientific method.
Chemist wrote:
I pray we will also agree,
Ah, yes. Prayers. The attempt of mortals to change God's mind. How quaint.
Chemist wrote:
creationism and evolution are not science based but faith based and therefor should be left out of science classes.
Unfortunately for you, God had already apparently decided NOT to answer your prayers, before you even put your hands together. Such are the advantages of being an all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient eternal entity - future and past knowledge are the same.

For as it turns out evolutionary biology IS science, which also happens to be something that was demonstrated just a few pages earlier if you had the inclination to go look. And learn. Of course if you were a real genuine chemist you would already be aware of this, even if you happened to disagree with the field. Hence why I'm thinking that if you are a chemist then you are of the high street corner store variety.
Chemist wrote:
More appropriately these beliefs as to our existence should be in theology classes.
Well again, unfortunately for you, not only does evolution pass the scientific method, it also has the support of the legal arena. Theology on the other hand can ONLY be taught in an objective secular manner, such as in comparative religions classes, but never to promote one religion over another. This is another argument you lost retroactively, decades before you even made this post.

But the fact you fundies are unable to learn from history means you are doomed to repeat it. Meaning you are doomed to repeat all your losses too. Oh well.
Chemist wrote:
As for a better scientific explanation, there can never be one since the conditions and observations of today can never be proven to be true in the begining.
Ah, the old "How do YOU know? Where you THERE?!?" argument. I guess that means the entire field of forensics doesn't exist then. Among MANY other things.

Which means that if we come across a footprint from a modern day hiking boot that we think is a month old we can't really tell if it was made by a person at the expected time, or a chicken foot a million years ago, or giraffe just last week.

What a bizarre world you must live in.
The Dude

Wallasey, UK

#110924 Apr 9, 2014
Tinka wrote:
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I don't agree with that last part of your post at all...
modus as to simply? MODIS Plural...Placed and put to creation is to a nourishing factor...
To then as it is placed in which way two sides for sure surely...
"Modus operandi" is old Latin for "mode of operation".

Creationists lie with impunity. They can't help it. That's why SevenTee just got caught lying.

Again.

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