Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221214 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#110468 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Why is a mule sterile?
Did you know evolution is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics?
Explain the millions and millions of years of absolutely no fossil records that support the theory of evolutionism
I have brought this up with these folks that they have no response because there is no evidence
Donkeys and horses have different numbers of chromosomes and both are different species. Mule is not a species. You keep trying to inject that evolution is taking 2 distinct animals and producing a third. You have a basic ignorance of genetics and a complete misunderstanding of evolution. It is the creationists who have lied to you.
Evolution does not violate the SLoT. You have been told this and the math solidly backs it up. It is the creationists who have lied to you.
It is not the lack of evidence that supports evolution, it is the preponderance of evidence. It is the creationists who have lied to you.

All of these have been previously addressed and answered for you. It is the creationist who lies about it.

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#110469 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Why is a mule sterile?
Did you know evolution is a violation of the second law of thermodynamics?
Explain the millions and millions of years of absolutely no fossil records that support the theory of evolutionism
I have brought this up with these folks that they have no response because there is no evidence
Why do you think mules are sterile.
Explain the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
What millions and millions of years are you talking about? Are you referring to a gap in the fossil record that otherwise does support evolution?
If you received no response, it is likely due to the fact that your questions are piss poor and you offer no alternative that even remotely makes sense.

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#110471 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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The universe is an open system therefore Evolution is a violation of the Second Law of Thermo.
If there was "evolution" the mule would have evolved by now into a distinct species.
Why is there not life on Mars? Another difficult concept for the evolutionist. Life should have "evolved"by not on Mars
The second flaw of thermodynamics states , creationists can't get anything right about thermodynamics.

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St. Croix valley

#110472 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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The universe is an open system therefore Evolution is a violation of the Second Law of Thermo.
If there was "evolution" the mule would have evolved by now into a distinct species.
Why is there not life on Mars? Another difficult concept for the evolutionist. Life should have "evolved"by not on Mars
how do you know the universe is a closed system?

and yet with proven evolution many species die out..seems to go against your misunderstanding of the theory.

how do you know there wasn't life on mars?

fun topics for a small brain...

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#110473 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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The universe is an open system therefore Evolution is a violation of the Second Law of Thermo.
If there was "evolution" the mule would have evolved by now into a distinct species.
Why is there not life on Mars? Another difficult concept for the evolutionist. Life should have "evolved"by not on Mars
You really don't have any clue about what you are posting do you.

The earth is an open system and as a result evolution can take place in accordance with the SLoT.

No, the mule would not have evolved. You have been told this before. The mule is the result of an artificial pairing of donkey and horse that would not normally occur in nature. Evolution has resulted in barriers that prevent donkeys and horses from reproducing.

Technically we don't know that there isn't some kind of life on Mars. However, if life is found on Mars, it most certainly will develop consistent with the theory of evolution. Evolution describes the relationship, changes and diversity of living things and does not state that life is compelled to develop. Stating that life should have evolved on Mars by now is not a conclusion based on evolution. It is one based on ignorance.

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#110474 Mar 29, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The second flaw of thermodynamics states , creationists can't get anything right about thermodynamics.
So true.

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#110475 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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The universe is an open system therefore Evolution is a violation of the Second Law of Thermo.
Yeah, if only we had a giant celestial body about 93 million miles away, powered by nuclear fusion, that bathed us in heat, light, and energy.

...

...

... Oh...WAIT!
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>If there was "evolution" the mule would have evolved by now into a distinct species.
The mule is actually a very good example of 'speciation' between horses and donkeys, as both horses and donkeys (and other equine) had a common ancestor.
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>Why is there not life on Mars? Another difficult concept for the evolutionist. Life should have "evolved"by not on Mars
Mars is not currently suitable for life as we know it. Why SHOULD there be life on Mars?

And as been brought up before, the Theory of Evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.

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#110476 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
The universe is an open system therefore Evolution is a violation of the Second Law of Thermo.
If there was "evolution" the mule would have evolved by now into a distinct species.
Why is there not life on Mars? Another difficult concept for the evolutionist. Life should have "evolved"by not on Mars
You don't even have a clue that you don't have a clue, do you? A supposed "violation" of the SLoT would necessarily be in a closed system and "The universe" is completely irrelevant to the discussion. "Mule" is not a species because it is a hybrid. What does Mars have to do with anything? It doesn't have a molten iron/nickel core, thus no electromagnetic field to deflect solar charged particles... nevermind. You'd never understand.

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#110478 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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OK name two distinct species that exist and have evolved into a third species that exists today.
Horses , Donkeys and Zebras all evolved from common ancestry.
Your understanding of how animals are related is flawed, um or better said nonexistent.

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#110479 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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OK name two distinct species that exist and have evolved into a third species that exists today.
A single species can produce several different species , if the group gets split by a physical barrier, or creates an unnatural breeding barrier. The two separated groups evolve a bit differently over time. Over very long periods the two are physically incapable of breeding with each other, thus speciation has occurred. Add more time they can become very different, just as we see in Horses, Donkeys and Zebras.

EXAMPLE 2

Consider, for example, the large island of Madagascar, which broke off from Gondwana, Pangaea's southern half, 160 million years ago. About nine out of 10 of the plant and mammal species that have evolved on the island are not found anywhere else on the planet, according to Conservation International.

http://www.livescience.com/33279-what-if-pang...

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#110482 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Name two species that mated and evolved into a third?
I'm telling you evolution doesn't work like that.
Two different species can't breed, two sub species that are close enough to breed have hybrids.
There may have been some of this, saying it's not impossible... but that isn't what happened in most cases or the way natural selection works.
Another words..that's a straw-man argument built on your misunderstanding of how evolution actually works.

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St. Croix valley

#110483 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Name two species that mated and evolved into a third?
that isn't even close to how evolution works!

you know i use your posts down at the local tavern for laughs? seriously, i do..the locals can't believe you can be so stupid...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#110485 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Sure Pal, I know better
Your evolution pals are on dope and they make up stuff when a tough question is asked.
Don't always believe what you think
ummm...yeah...this is in Grand Marais MN, we have the highest percentage of PHDs per capita of any town in the US..and this is the tavern all the cool, smart people hang out in...

they laugh at you and your idiot evo friends...as they should

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#110486 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Sure Pal, I know better
Your evolution pals are on dope and they make up stuff when a tough question is asked.
Don't always believe what you think
you say you know better, but you think two animals breeding is what makes new species? you clearly do not have any idea of what the proven theory of evolution entails! you seem to have a sunday school level of understanding about it..

goes with your racist comments on the other pages of Topix... classic asshole syndrome.

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#110487 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Sure Pal, I know better
Your evolution pals are on dope and they make up stuff when a tough question is asked.
Don't always believe what you think
Actually this is YOUR attempt to cover up your own stupidity.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#110489 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Like I said, this is a challenge
Name a species and the species it evolved into?
Face it loser your theory is weak BS, it is good atheist literature, nothing more nothing less.
If Evolution were a true science people would have real Academic degrees in "evolution" but it is junk science
no, you said two species mating to form another species, showing your total lack of intelligence, and understanding of the theory you think you can debunk with your third grade level ideas...

we have clear fossil records of new species forming throughout time. i do not recall any of your religious cults talking of god creating species throughout time, they all mention one creation event, don't they?...hmmmm...what's up with that, dear?

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#110490 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, this is a challenge
Name a species and the species it evolved into?
Face it loser your theory is weak BS, it is good atheist literature, nothing more nothing less.
If Evolution were a true science people would have real Academic degrees in "evolution" but it is junk science
Every damned one evolved into what it is.

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#110491 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said, this is a challenge
Name a species and the species it evolved into?
Face it loser your theory is weak BS, it is good atheist literature, nothing more nothing less.
If Evolution were a true science people would have real Academic degrees in "evolution" but it is junk science
Australopithecus.

Evolved into most, if not all, of the hominids. Including you.

Did you know, BTW, that (unless your lineage is straight sub-Saharan African), you're part Neandertal?

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#110492 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Name two species that mated and evolved into a third?
Speciation doesn't occur that way. Your question is meaningless. You don't understand basic biology and are demanding answers to questions that make no sense.

If two species are compatible enough to mate and the offspring manage to survive, then the result is not a new species, but a hybrid.

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#110493 Mar 29, 2014
SevenTee wrote:
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Like I said, this is a challenge
Name a species and the species it evolved into?
Face it loser your theory is weak BS, it is good atheist literature, nothing more nothing less.
If Evolution were a true science people would have real Academic degrees in "evolution" but it is junk science
It is definitely a challenge for you to come up with coherent and meaningful questions. So far you have failed miserably.

There are real academic degrees in evolutionary biology dumb ass, but that isn't evidence that supports the theory. It is a result of the theory being a foundational principle of biology.

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