Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 201844 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“I started out with nothing”

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and still got most of it left

#108106 Jan 21, 2014
PROFESSOR X wrote:
Bethlehem Star Scientifically Confirms Biblical Events
http://youtu.be/Zsn16uxZ_4o
Merry CHRISTmas to all the Atheists and Secular Humanists who tried so hard to deny, refute, ignore, make fun of, make light of, and censor the knowledge of Jesus Christ's Birth into the world within our culture --- only to find out that the overwhelming scientific evidence existing today not only confirms the events around the Birth of Christ and Biblical Record as a whole are true; but as a result, the mass public learns why these militant skeptics' own self-destructive, reality denying, world-views of meaninglessness are now relegated into the category of modern myth, superstition, and urban legend based on science-fiction.
Proof Your Soul Exists and It's Destination
http://youtu.be/FbZ_atjpQOY
And you put your faith in an Internet preacher with a youtube vid? Wow. This explains such a lot

You could also try this one,



P.S. Here is a copy and paste of another comment on the http://youtu.be/Zsn16uxZ_4o page to counter your cherry picking

MALDITTOROKKERO
1 week ago

LOL ok! let's keep it simple. catholics, jehova witness, mormons, lutherans... man i can keep going but i wont. they all read the bible and all have their own version. they all say to eachother "you're reading out of context" ALL THE TIME!! I'VE SEEN IT!!! stop trying to prove god with pathetic videos!!! tell your god him/her/it to show ;) have a good day

And let me just confirm that after what, 4000 to 6000 years in the case of the abrahamic god (somewhat more for many of the written about 3700+ gods) none have shown themselves… waiting…

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#108107 Jan 21, 2014
The Dude wrote:
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And that is a natural phenomena which involves no intelligence mechanisms, at least, as far as can be detected.
But that living thing was created before that mutations took place. Ok?

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#108108 Jan 21, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Pluto owns English.
Not in this earth. Good! Your imagination any way.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108109 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
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As usual, when the answer is obvious you resort to evasions and denial
Stop blowing up the irony meters, you've been evading me forever. The only thing I deny is your assumption you're using words correctly. You're not. Your terms are loaded.
bohart wrote:
Disorganized complexity would be a pile of computer parts , organized complexity would be the computer.
In which case you think computer parts can develop naturally, as according to you, "disorganized complexity" can happen naturally, while "organized complexity" can't. YOUR rules.

But notice the problem here? You are once again resorting to the ANALOGY of things we have evidence of being designed. "Humans make computers therefore God make humans!" I don't CARE if humans make computers, I wanna know HOW you know God make humans, and I wanna know how you know that through SCIENCE.
bohart wrote:
Just like a puddle of enzymes amino acids and proteins would be disorganized
A living cell ,( as you well know), is organized complexity.
Now stick your head back into denial
No need to deny anything, all you've done is made a baseless assertion. In EVERY single case on Earth right now, every living cell developed via natural means. No "deliberate" organisation required. You claim there was an exception 3.5 billion years ago. Still waiting for you to back it up.

Notice how you didn't tell me how to measure the difference between the paper plane and the space shuttle.

Again.

Why is that?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108110 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
total denial
In which case you should be able to provide a precise rebuttal to that post instead of merely dismissing it. As usual you didn't bother.

And you forgot to answer my question - how is complexity measured?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108111 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
where did the DNA information come from. oh yeah, according to the Dude information doesn't exist, DNA is pasta sauce
I already answered your question. If information exists, what is it made out of?

“"Eatin' Ain't Cheatin!"”

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Thompson's Station, Tn

#108112 Jan 21, 2014
All I know is that I'm here and don't know why?

I have read Telhard de Chardain? Boy my spelling is horrible. There is always going to be "That Big Question"...why are humans here? The religious leaders in the past had a hard time backfooting when we dug up fossils. Yes, if we evolved from apes.....why do we still have apes?.

Off the subject!!!!
I love this New Pope!
I'm agnostic but this guy is Real!

"Who am I to judge homosexuality?"
He doesn't use the PopeMobile.

I better stop now ....my glass of vodka is almost dry.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108113 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did the information for the first DNA come from?
what was the cause, as you say?
The theory of evolution does not rely on abiogenesis.

What information are you referring to? How can you have information before there was an intelligence to invent it? How is complexity measured? How do I measure the difference in complexity between the paper plane and the space shuttle?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108115 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so illogical you have to be a woman
Ouch.

Ya know by this logic this makes you a woman.

How is complexity measured?

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#108116 Jan 21, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What you said and what you believe is irrelevant. What is evidential
fact makes you look a fool
<quoted text>
There you go, contradicting yourself again
First you said and I quote “English started in England.”
Then you said, and I quote” English, like every other languages started
from many sources”
Are you not aware of your confusion here?
Why should the credit be given to the English? The language developed
over hundreds of years and you have just stated “English, like every
other languages started from many sources” Perhaps some of the credit
should go to these many sources. Perhaps some to ancient Rome, perhaps
some to northern Europe, perhaps some to France. All places where the
English language started
<quoted text>
And the majority of the people in the US speak English and many of the
people in Canada speak English.
How about Scotland, Ireland, what about Barbados, Cameroon, Ghana, the
Philippines. What about Australia?
You condescending prick.
<quoted text>
Yes of course but the fact that a thing must be created does not imply a
creator. There is nothing in quantum science to say that effect cannot
come before or is even related to cause. And of course you are confusing
the birth of the universe with evolution. This is typical of a godbot
who has no comprehension of time
And again, in summary, all those nations mentioned by you can speak English because of England. So English belongs to England.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108117 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Good God! what a moron you are! I asked where the first DNA came from and you said what? from you! mommy and daddy.Log off and never come back! Your idiocy is galactic .
And yet you don't even know how to measure complexity, even though your entire premise is based on this claim. Is there anything more idiotic than basing a claim on something you don't even know is correct? We both know you don't even know it's correct otherwise you'd be able to tell me how to measure the difference between paper planes and space shuttles.

Seems your idiocy expands the entire universe and beyond, if that's possible.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108118 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Congratulations ! you have won the cosmic idiot award
What's sad ,is you don't even know why
Nah, you took the title years ago. And you don't even know why.

How do you measure complexity?

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#108119 Jan 21, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What you said and what you believe is irrelevant. What is evidential
fact makes you look a fool
<quoted text>
There you go, contradicting yourself again
First you said and I quote “English started in England.”
Then you said, and I quote” English, like every other languages started
from many sources”
Are you not aware of your confusion here?
Why should the credit be given to the English? The language developed
over hundreds of years and you have just stated “English, like every
other languages started from many sources” Perhaps some of the credit
should go to these many sources. Perhaps some to ancient Rome, perhaps
some to northern Europe, perhaps some to France. All places where the
English language started
<quoted text>
And the majority of the people in the US speak English and many of the
people in Canada speak English.
How about Scotland, Ireland, what about Barbados, Cameroon, Ghana, the
Philippines. What about Australia?
You condescending prick.
<quoted text>
Yes of course but the fact that a thing must be created does not imply a
creator. There is nothing in quantum science to say that effect cannot
come before or is even related to cause. And of course you are confusing
the birth of the universe with evolution. This is typical of a godbot
who has no comprehension of time
As long as evolution is zero without creation, there is a creator. Our ancestors are good examples.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108120 Jan 21, 2014
PROFESSOR X wrote:
Bethlehem Star Scientifically Confirms Biblical Events
http://youtu.be/Zsn16uxZ_4o
Merry CHRISTmas to all the Atheists and Secular Humanists who tried so hard to deny, refute, ignore, make fun of, make light of, and censor the knowledge of Jesus Christ's Birth into the world within our culture --- only to find out that the overwhelming scientific evidence existing today not only confirms the events around the Birth of Christ and Biblical Record as a whole are true; but as a result, the mass public learns why these militant skeptics' own self-destructive, reality denying, world-views of meaninglessness are now relegated into the category of modern myth, superstition, and urban legend based on science-fiction.
Proof Your Soul Exists and It's Destination
http://youtu.be/FbZ_atjpQOY
Oh hi thar fake Prof, ya big liar. Tell me, how does evidence back up the Bible when evidence doesn't matter to creationism? What's the "scientific theory" of creationism? If creationism is true, why do you have to lie in every post?

You can run away again now.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108121 Jan 21, 2014
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> But that living thing was created before that mutations took place. Ok?
There there.

(Dude pats Chuck's head)

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#108122 Jan 21, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What you said and what you believe is irrelevant. What is evidential
fact makes you look a fool
<quoted text>
There you go, contradicting yourself again
First you said and I quote “English started in England.”
Then you said, and I quote” English, like every other languages started
from many sources”
Are you not aware of your confusion here?
Why should the credit be given to the English? The language developed
over hundreds of years and you have just stated “English, like every
other languages started from many sources” Perhaps some of the credit
should go to these many sources. Perhaps some to ancient Rome, perhaps
some to northern Europe, perhaps some to France. All places where the
English language started
<quoted text>
And the majority of the people in the US speak English and many of the
people in Canada speak English.
How about Scotland, Ireland, what about Barbados, Cameroon, Ghana, the
Philippines. What about Australia?
You condescending prick.
<quoted text>
Yes of course but the fact that a thing must be created does not imply a
creator. There is nothing in quantum science to say that effect cannot
come before or is even related to cause. And of course you are confusing
the birth of the universe with evolution. This is typical of a godbot
who has no comprehension of time
And lastly, you look like a fool in your assertions, because there is nothing on earth that can evolve without a maker. All languages have that features, but its origin is unique to its owners. England- English, France- French, etc.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#108123 Jan 21, 2014
Mexican Hillbilly wrote:
All I know is that I'm here and don't know why?
I have read Telhard de Chardain? Boy my spelling is horrible. There is always going to be "That Big Question"...why are humans here? The religious leaders in the past had a hard time backfooting when we dug up fossils. Yes, if we evolved from apes.....why do we still have apes?.
If we evolved from eukaryote organisms, why do we still have eukaryotes?
Mexican Hillbilly wrote:
Off the subject!!!!
I love this New Pope!
I'm agnostic but this guy is Real!
"Who am I to judge homosexuality?"
He doesn't use the PopeMobile.
I better stop now ....my glass of vodka is almost dry.
You mean this new guy going around who's apparently had a massive personality change? He's probably only doing it to pish off the Proddy's.(shrug)

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#108124 Jan 21, 2014
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
There there.
(Dude pats Chuck's head)
What is your point?

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Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#108125 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
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Congratulations ! you have won the cosmic idiot award
What's sad ,is you don't even know why
Wow Bohart, what an immature response. Aura went out of his/her way to give you an honest, unbiased answer, even accepting the fact that we can't disprove the possibility of a creationist origin of DNA, and you retort with this. Honestly, I don't know why people even bother with you.

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#108126 Jan 21, 2014
bohart wrote:
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You are so illogical you have to be a woman
And yet your ignorance continues to shine.

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