Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221195 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#105189 Nov 7, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The same with all world's languages, Bingo. English belongs to England, because it started there. Stupid!
No, dimwit. It started in Mainland Europe.

“So it's not you, It's them?”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#105190 Nov 7, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
A human is 25% daffodil, does that mean we are all 1/4 flower?
Some confirm here, daily, that they much more closely resemble plant life than others do! LOL

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105191 Nov 7, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Incorrect.
It would be appropriate to claim that (for example) "the English language -- as we now know it -- originated in England.
But NO country, NO government OWNS a language.
PERIOD.
didn't it originate there before there was an England?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#105192 Nov 7, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And yet, you can not disprove my statement.
There is no need to disprove stupid. Stupid just is.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#105193 Nov 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>It's upside-down here.
Weird.

Maybe Topix thinks you're in Australia.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105194 Nov 7, 2013
Chilli J wrote:
<quoted text>
Some confirm here, daily, that they much more closely resemble plant life than others do! LOL
so you finally answered my first of '20 Questions' from the other day!
Ok, so Replaytime IS a vegetable...

Question two: is he a tuber?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105195 Nov 7, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ownership by origination, ok?
so the US owns all of the first nation languages spoken here? Sweet!

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#105196 Nov 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>didn't it originate there before there was an England?
Not sure about the timing of the origination of the country vs the origination of the language....but you have a point.

How about: "The English language -- as we now know it -- originated in the country WE NOW KNOW as "England".

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Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#105197 Nov 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>It's upside-down here.
They have been doing this on the Utica, NY forum for a while. I didn't realize that it was going to expand to other forums. I find it annoying, but manageable.

Level 1

Since: Jul 12

Gulgong, Australia

#105198 Nov 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>what does that have to do at all with me pointing out clearly that your claim had no rational basis?
You haven't pointed out anything at all. What you have offered is your opinion.

Here is my opinion about TOE.

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

"Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research."

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/ ...

Indeed a documented Genesis account at least gives creos a scenario to support falsify and make predictions from. TOE is a theory in evolution itself and has no preditive ability and is based on flawed and biased research, and still upposts a creationists paradigm better than TOE. eg human knuckle walking ancestry falsified on the back of one single fossil, the deteriorating genome, punctuated equilibrium, the death of single celled LUCA.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#105200 Nov 7, 2013
MazHere wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't pointed out anything at all. What you have offered is your opinion.
Here is my opinion about TOE.
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
"Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research."
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/ ...
Indeed a documented Genesis account at least gives creos a scenario to support falsify and make predictions from. TOE is a theory in evolution itself and has no preditive ability and is based on flawed and biased research, and still upposts a creationists paradigm better than TOE. eg human knuckle walking ancestry falsified on the back of one single fossil, the deteriorating genome, punctuated equilibrium, the death of single celled LUCA.
It's amusing that you use -- of all things -- a published research paper to argue that "...Most Published Research Findings Are False".

Hysterical, actually.

BTW, your link was bad. Try this one instead:

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/...

You offer instead, a 2000+ year old collection of campfire stories that is NOT a collection of "DOCUMENTED" accounts whatsoever.

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Level 5

Since: Mar 13

He Is A Sock Know It All

#105202 Nov 7, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The stupid knows his children. English started in England, and by origination, the language belongs to them.
English is a West Germanic language that originated from the Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain by Germanic invaders and/or settlers from various parts of what is now northwest Germany and the Netherlands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_E...

Old English (Ænglisc, Anglisc, Englisc) or Anglo-Saxon is an early form of the English language that was spoken and written by the Anglo-Saxons and their descendants in parts of what are now England and southern and eastern Scotland between at least the mid-5th century and the mid-12th century. What survives through writing represents primarily the literary register of Anglo-Saxon.

It is a West Germanic language closely related to Old Frisian and Old Saxon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#105204 Nov 7, 2013
What Maz does not realize is that even if 90% of published research findings were false is that it still beats her book of myths. Peer reviewed articles are only the first step in a scientific discovery. Any new finding will be tested by other scientists elsewhere. The false findings are found out and corrected. Her book of myth has no correction methodology.
buckwheat

Tulsa, OK

#105206 Nov 7, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>No, dimwit. It started in Mainland Europe.
Mainland Europe? So, It started in Spain, France, Italy, Germany...etc.? Huh, you'd think those countries would have their own language such as Spanish, French, Italian, and German.

If you want to teach, you have to learn first. The United Kingdom, where English was first spoke, is an Island.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#105207 Nov 7, 2013
MazHere wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't pointed out anything at all. What you have offered is your opinion.
Here is my opinion about TOE.
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
"Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research."
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/ ...
Indeed a documented Genesis account at least gives creos a scenario to support falsify and make predictions from. TOE is a theory in evolution itself and has no preditive ability and is based on flawed and biased research, and still upposts a creationists paradigm better than TOE. eg human knuckle walking ancestry falsified on the back of one single fossil, the deteriorating genome, punctuated equilibrium, the death of single celled LUCA.
The paper makes the claim and attempts to support its claim that most published research findings are false and goes on to make recommendations to improve the process.

Without quibbling over the percentage of papers that may be correct or incorrect and even if we accept the paper at face vales, it does not make the claim that most of science or its theories are similarly incorrect. That is the jump you are making and THAT is incorrect.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#105208 Nov 7, 2013
MazHere wrote:
Indeed a documented Genesis account at least gives creos a scenario to support falsify and make predictions from. TOE is a theory in evolution itself and has no preditive ability and is based on flawed and biased research, and still upposts a creationists paradigm better than TOE. eg human knuckle walking ancestry falsified on the back of one single fossil, the deteriorating genome, punctuated equilibrium, the death of single celled LUCA.
By the way, this last paragraph of yours is pure bullshit.

Level 1

Since: Jul 12

Gulgong, Australia

#105209 Nov 7, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
What Maz does not realize is that even if 90% of published research findings were false is that it still beats her book of myths. Peer reviewed articles are only the first step in a scientific discovery. Any new finding will be tested by other scientists elsewhere. The false findings are found out and corrected. Her book of myth has no correction methodology.
It appears your libraries full of myths does not beat an original documented account of what should appear in the fossil record.

Evolutionists copied their basic hierarchies from a biblical account that got it right first.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#105210 Nov 7, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
It's amusing that you use -- of all things -- a published research paper to argue that "...Most Published Research Findings Are False".
Hysterical, actually.
Indeed.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#105211 Nov 7, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah that monster god of yours is out to burn and torture just about everyone.
There is no fire in hell, you don't burn, you rot. It's also not physical torture, but it is mental terror. All sin is conceived of in the mind before being acted upon. Hell is also not forever, except in the case of Satan. Eventually your spirit will be snuffed out (drowned) and you will cease to exist.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#105212 Nov 7, 2013
MazHere wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't pointed out anything at all. What you have offered is your opinion.
Here is my opinion about TOE.
Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
"Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research."
http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/ ...
Indeed a documented Genesis account at least gives creos a scenario to support falsify and make predictions from. TOE is a theory in evolution itself and has no preditive ability and is based on flawed and biased research, and still upposts a creationists paradigm better than TOE. eg human knuckle walking ancestry falsified on the back of one single fossil, the deteriorating genome, punctuated equilibrium, the death of single celled LUCA.
no, you stated that since abiogenesis hasn't been made in any laboratory setting it must be false, or did i misread that post of yours?

here is your post,#104734 on page 4969, in case you forgot or want context:
"Life is a complex factory of reproduction and metabolism. Scientists have every possible environment able to be reproduced in the lab. They can muck around with genes. Yet, after all this time and funding the fact is they have NOT made a living life form.

Speaking of 'several ways' that life theoretically could have made the jump is really just another way of saying, scientists cannot do it.

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