Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216895 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104658 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Oh! ha,ha, Sucking bone posts a link about the origin of the term abiogenesis...he called it..cool
and then later stammers away about it not being the correct definition!
is this guy great or what! lets give him a hand ,...he is the true definition of comical stupidity
Stay tuned for his next post were he'll deny saying it wasn't the correct definition !
blofart, there was no "stammering". It was simply an observed point.

And if you remember this debate started because you were too big of an idiot to even try to understand what the word "abiogenesis" meant and why we can definitely claim that an abiogenesis event occurred. Even creatards believe that.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104659 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Here once again is the site sucking one denies having posted. also the site he later disagrees with on the definition of abiogenesis. He lied
he is psychotic
Nope moron, you did not quote correctly at the start. That is why I thought you were referring to another link of mine.

So one more time moron, do you want to go back to the start? Or are you going to be dishonest by trying to misinterpret my earlier post?

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104660 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
Here Dude!,...here Dud,Dud,dud
Have you figured out what ..spontaneous generation from inorganic matter means?
You should, it's the theory you believe in!
or as I've long suspected, you don't even know what you believe in. Like the other evo fools on here ,it's all about what you are against.
So bohart is a hypocrite too. He does not like it when abiogenesis is stretched to include the Biblical myth, yet he has not problem distorting the meaning of "spontaneous generation".

By he way, you are making a mistake that The Dude never made.

bohart is wallowing in his ignorance again.

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Since: Dec 08

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#104661 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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blofart, there was no "stammering". It was simply an observed point.
And if you remember this debate started because you were too big of an idiot to even try to understand what the word "abiogenesis" meant and why we can definitely claim that an abiogenesis event occurred. Even creatards believe that.
Oh! ha,ha,ha, I don't understand abiogenesis! Your the dumbass that disagreed with the definition of the word in your own LINK!
Your psycho , just as you accused me of lying when it was you who lied!
You accuse me of not knowing what abiogenesis is when it's YOU who can't even understand the term you posted!

even with the definition in front of you!

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#104662 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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So bohart is a hypocrite too. He does not like it when abiogenesis is stretched to include the Biblical myth, yet he has not problem distorting the meaning of "spontaneous generation".
By he way, you are making a mistake that The Dude never made.
bohart is wallowing in his ignorance again.
No one takes you seriously, you are sad. Lying, dodging ducking, accusing ,and even distorting the meaning of words.

Get help cultist

Since: Sep 13

Miami, FL

#104663 Nov 4, 2013
Religion is not true.

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#104664 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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So bohart is a hypocrite too. He does not like it when abiogenesis is stretched to include the Biblical myth, yet he has not problem distorting the meaning of "spontaneous generation".
By he way, you are making a mistake that The Dude never made.
bohart is wallowing in his ignorance again.
I need a laugh...

what is the scientific term for spontaneous generation from inorganic matter?

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#104665 Nov 4, 2013
SierraCool wrote:
Religion is not true.
okay

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#104666 Nov 4, 2013
SBT wrote:
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Still waiting for a rebuttal based on logical evidence rather than your condescending stereotyping. I truly believe that this little motor was designed and planted for several reasons,
1.We need it to maintain and reproduce life, and
2.To absolutely and finally destroy the notion of Darwinian evolution at the peak of man's foolishness in these days.
Rebuttal to what? How it works? If you want a rebuttal on how it was formed you might want to consider posting some evidence in support of design, because so far you haven't.

1. Evolution of the motor doesn't alternate its importance and value in living organisms.

2. It hasn't. What has happened, as shown in references you have been given, is that evolution has explained it.

All you have done, as pointed out by many, is ramble on about the function and how incredulous you are about that function. That is does not refute evolution either.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104667 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Oh! ha,ha,ha, I don't understand abiogenesis! Your the dumbass that disagreed with the definition of the word in your own LINK!
Your psycho , just as you accused me of lying when it was you who lied!
You accuse me of not knowing what abiogenesis is when it's YOU who can't even understand the term you posted!
even with the definition in front of you!
Yes you moron, it has a clear error in it. Unlike you, I am honest. If I post a link with an error in it I will tell you what the error is.

And now you have broken down into complete imbecility. I understand the link I gave. That is why I can identify its error. You on the other hand are a moron and could not find the error if your life depended on it.

So boahrt, do you think you can find the error that I can? Or am I right when I insult what little intelligence that you have.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#104668 Nov 4, 2013
SierraCool wrote:
Religion is not true.
Actually, "Religion" is a fact.

What much of religion claims to be true, is NOT.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104669 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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I need a laugh...
what is the scientific term for spontaneous generation from inorganic matter?
How technical do you want to get? Abiogenesis is not spontaneous generation if you want to get specific.

You asked for the scientific term, that means you want to get technical and the only term for "spontaneous generation" is "spontaneous generation".

Please note when I expanded abiogenesis to include at least replaytime's idea of how life started I made it clear by defining it conditionally, not technically.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#104670 Nov 4, 2013
SBT wrote:
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I posted a challenge and predicted you could never get started. I was right.
You folks are providing lots of words and no logical, reasonable answers to any of my arguments, just say "straw man", "proved long ago" etc., etc., "you can keep your insurance", "I never said that" rebuttals, who are you kidding! Call all Humpty Dumptys Stargazers into open debate and then the next rhyme will read "see Johnny run!
The Japanese never mention evolution in any of the papers I read directly from them. But oh, to pass objective unbiased USA "per review", Berg chimes in with his evo piece. This is twice the Japanese have schooled his team scientifically in a year, they recently issued another paper breaking ground on the sodium ion-powered flagella.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/06/19/...
I posted a challenge, explain the evolution of only one of the 11 coils in the motor and why it runs only on protons or giveup. And by they way, I'll warn you, none these folks have yet to figure out how the motor even starts, so good luck.
All you have done is talk about how it has really cool parts and this really cool power source and how you think it is really cool. Then you claim it is designed and prove it isn't because you think it is really cool. You haven't made an argument against evolution. You have made an argument that you think the flagellar motor is really cool.

I told you once before that protons are not the only power source for flagellar motors.

You are making this claim, it would be nice of you to support it rather than go on the way you are. If it is such a piece of cake, you shouldn't have to go through this dog and pony show.
Professor

Owensboro, KY

#104671 Nov 4, 2013
Both

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#104672 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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How technical do you want to get? Abiogenesis is not spontaneous generation if you want to get specific.
You asked for the scientific term, that means you want to get technical and the only term for "spontaneous generation" is "spontaneous generation".
Please note when I expanded abiogenesis to include at least replaytime's idea of how life started I made it clear by defining it conditionally, not technically.
So bohart has the shift for tonight.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

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Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#104673 Nov 4, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Actually, "Religion" is a fact.
What much of religion claims to be true, is NOT.
Did you catch bohart's answer above. He is giving you a run for you money in the factual answer department. LOL!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104674 Nov 4, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>So bohart has the shift for tonight.
Yup. I think that replaytime is recovering from last night.

Sadly I was looking forward to discussing the evolution of the rotator flagellum with SBT. I started to get serious about it, but he ran away.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#104675 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
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I need a laugh...
what is the scientific term for spontaneous generation from inorganic matter?
"Spontaneous generation" is an obsolete concept. It has been shown to be false.

You are probably referring to Abiogenesis.

"Abiogenesis means "origin by abiotic processes ". The concept refers to the "generation of living beings that start as inert systems, by means of inorganic autocatalytic processes".

end quote

http://www.biocab.org/Abiogenesis.html

Note that this definition does NOT exclude the possibility that God was the orchestrator of these abiotic processes. If you want to assign God as the director of abiogenesis, have at it.

“Do not bend, fold, staple or”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

mutilate. Point down range.

#104676 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Yup. I think that replaytime is recovering from last night.
Sadly I was looking forward to discussing the evolution of the rotator flagellum with SBT. I started to get serious about it, but he ran away.
I imagine he is.

I am reading up on the flagellar motor. Thanks for posting that link to the review by the way. Very helpful. I don't know, but I think SBT has a few more posts to discuss how cool he thinks it is and to talk about motors like he invented them.

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Since: Dec 08

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#104677 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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How technical do you want to get? Abiogenesis is not spontaneous generation if you want to get specific.
You asked for the scientific term, that means you want to get technical and the only term for "spontaneous generation" is "spontaneous generation".
Please note when I expanded abiogenesis to include at least replaytime's idea of how life started I made it clear by defining it conditionally, not technically.
Damn! that wasn't funny, it was comically stupid, what happened to all your peer reviewed links?

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