Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#104532 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
You are either a cosmic level idiot or just a liar.
Pool your intelligence with 10 of your puddle gooist friends so that it might be doubled.
I haven't needed to lie, we leave that to you fundies.
bohart wrote:
That there once was no life, then life appeared , is NOT EVIDENCE THAT INANMIATE MATTER SELF ORGANIZED AND SPRANG TO LIFE! It's every bit as much evidence for creation starting it.
Since abio does not claim inanimate matter came to life your objection is irrelevant. Chemistry is anything BUT inanimate. Creationism is the one that claims inanimate matter came to life. Furthermore it violates its own axioms, something which I've pointed out to you repeatedly.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104533 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, Dan.
It's 80F, low humidity, nice breeze, I can smell the ocean - doing pret' darn well.
:-D
How's by you?
Oh you suck!

The wet season has returned to the Pacific Northwest with a vengeance. It doesn't rain here so much as drizzle 24/7. It is not cold like in Minnesota, you could always dress for it there and still be active outside. Here it is warmer but there is no way to avoid the annoying dampness that will chill you to the bone.

Enjoy your nice weather and have pity on us where we won't see the sun for months on end.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#104534 Nov 4, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
The inevitable walking tree theory
I see you constructed another straw-man instead of dealing with the evidence. Our position does not contradict its own axioms. Yours does. Until you address this problem ours remains the better explanation. Plus it's the only one which made any successful predictions.

Take your time before answering. You always do.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104535 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Well, the entertainment value is undeniable. Hehehe.
Glad to be of service. Now can you send some of your dry, and may I emphasize the word "dry" warm weather up my way?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#104536 Nov 4, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
So up in a tree or on a cliff you can see out past the horizon? Interesting.
Are you really that dense, or are you deliberately being obtuse?

Permit me to clarify. I'm sure you've seen the sunrise light the top of a mountain before it gets to the base?

Or even the top of a nice tall tree?

While you remain on the ground, you quarter-wit?

That's absolute proof that the Earth is not flat.

So's the simple observation of a Lunar eclipse. The Earth is OBVIOUSLY not flat.

You really do not know how this stuff works, do you?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#104537 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh you suck!
The wet season has returned to the Pacific Northwest with a vengeance. It doesn't rain here so much as drizzle 24/7. It is not cold like in Minnesota, you could always dress for it there and still be active outside. Here it is warmer but there is no way to avoid the annoying dampness that will chill you to the bone.
Enjoy your nice weather and have pity on us where we won't see the sun for months on end.
*morally reprehensible snicker*

Sorry, I don't do that often.

Although when I first moved here, my friends in PA asked "Why the Hell would you move down there with all the old farts?"

Then came Spring Break. I shot off several rolls of film on the beach, sent sected shots back, and laughed, and laughed, and laughed.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#104538 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Glad to be of service. Now can you send some of your dry, and may I emphasize the word "dry" warm weather up my way?
I will attempt to do so.

I grew up in Ireland, by the way. I kinda like rain.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104539 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh you suck!
The wet season has returned to the Pacific Northwest with a vengeance. It doesn't rain here so much as drizzle 24/7. It is not cold like in Minnesota, you could always dress for it there and still be active outside. Here it is warmer but there is no way to avoid the annoying dampness that will chill you to the bone.
Enjoy your nice weather and have pity on us where we won't see the sun for months on end.
Lousy day here too, Mac. It's so damn cold I turned the A/C off and had to open the windows. The wind chimes are stirring and it looks like I'm going to have to grab a book and watch the ibis and squirrels from the pergola again. I suppose I could start building that BBQ I've been putting off - good time of year for outdoor grilling coming up. I keep misplacing my sunglasses, so I sure hope the sun isn't too bright today.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104540 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I will attempt to do so.
I grew up in Ireland, by the way. I kinda like rain.
I grew up in Minnesota. Hot and humid in the summer and cold and dry in the winter. Here people say "It is freezing" if it gets below 40 and it is unbearably hot to many if it gets above 80. In Minnesota it was only cold a couple of weeks each winter. We would have a week or so of -20 temps and then it would get to be an outright balmy 0 F. Then when our midwinter thaw hit and the temps reached 40 you would see people walking around in short sleeve shorts and sometimes shorts.

Here I think you would find winters similar to Ireland. Rainy and cloudy. We have a special term for "winter" days when the sun is shining somewhere, but not necessarily on you. They are called "sun breaks". You can see that the sun is breaking through the clouds on some people. It might not hit you, but even a little indirect sunlight is nice after a month of overcast.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104541 Nov 4, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Lousy day here too, Mac. It's so damn cold I turned the A/C off and had to open the windows. The wind chimes are stirring and it looks like I'm going to have to grab a book and watch the ibis and squirrels from the pergola again. I suppose I could start building that BBQ I've been putting off - good time of year for outdoor grilling coming up. I keep misplacing my sunglasses, so I sure hope the sun isn't too bright today.
AArrgh!!

Well at least the summers are actually sunny here. They start around the 4th of July. But I still remember a 3rd of July when I actually turned the heat on. After that rain is a rarity until after September. I am not a lawn fanatic so it only needs a going over once a month at the most in the summer. After a winter of green a little brown in the lawn is refreshing!

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#104542 Nov 4, 2013
And speaking of weather this is one of my favorite sites:

http://hint.fm/wind/

It is a live map of the wind across the contiguous U.S.. You can get information from the map by running your mouse over it or zoom in for details.

It is of course the most interesting on those days when you don't want to live in Oklahoma or other such locales.

“Don't be mad at me.”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

I'm just a little bunny.

#104543 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, Dan.
It's 80F, low humidity, nice breeze, I can smell the ocean - doing pret' darn well.
:-D
How's by you?
I is below 50F, low humidity, overcast and there hasn't been an ocean to smell around here in millions of years. But doing very well. Cooler climate ancestry helps I think.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#104544 Nov 4, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
One thing about Mike F he is and has been more honest than you will ever be. So I will take Mike's word on it.
It was from researching Blue Letter Bible. I make no claim that is the original word used. Since there are no original copies of the OT, I think it more than a little difficult to be certain what th word was "in the begining" - so to speak.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#104545 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
And speaking of weather this is one of my favorite sites:
http://hint.fm/wind/
It is a live map of the wind across the contiguous U.S.. You can get information from the map by running your mouse over it or zoom in for details.
It is of course the most interesting on those days when you don't want to live in Oklahoma or other such locales.
Very cool map! Thanks for the link.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#104546 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
I grew up in Minnesota. Hot and humid in the summer and cold and dry in the winter. Here people say "It is freezing" if it gets below 40 and it is unbearably hot to many if it gets above 80. In Minnesota it was only cold a couple of weeks each winter. We would have a week or so of -20 temps and then it would get to be an outright balmy 0 F. Then when our midwinter thaw hit and the temps reached 40 you would see people walking around in short sleeve shorts and sometimes shorts.
Here I think you would find winters similar to Ireland. Rainy and cloudy. We have a special term for "winter" days when the sun is shining somewhere, but not necessarily on you. They are called "sun breaks". You can see that the sun is breaking through the clouds on some people. It might not hit you, but even a little indirect sunlight is nice after a month of overcast.
Ireland has 43 words for "rain".

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104547 Nov 4, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
I grew up in Minnesota. Hot and humid in the summer and cold and dry in the winter. Here people say "It is freezing" if it gets below 40 and it is unbearably hot to many if it gets above 80. In Minnesota it was only cold a couple of weeks each winter. We would have a week or so of -20 temps and then it would get to be an outright balmy 0 F. Then when our midwinter thaw hit and the temps reached 40 you would see people walking around in short sleeve shorts and sometimes shorts.
Been there, fersure. Nothing like ski lifts at -15 and 105 in the shade 5 months later, don'tchaknow?
We've an extended house guest from the pacific NW.(grumble, mutter...) Good lord, by their temperament I don't know how the human race survived the primordial ooze without central heat and A/C. grumble, mutter....
Sunbeams and liquid sunshine.
Here, many days you can look toward some patch of clouds (or across the street) and say "somebody's getting soaked."

“Don't be mad at me.”

Level 9

Since: Jan 11

I'm just a little bunny.

#104548 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>*morally reprehensible snicker*
Sorry, I don't do that often.
Although when I first moved here, my friends in PA asked "Why the Hell would you move down there with all the old farts?"
Then came Spring Break. I shot off several rolls of film on the beach, sent sected shots back, and laughed, and laughed, and laughed.
Yes, I have heard of the many Spring wildflowers that blossom on the beaches of Florida. Whether bee or botanist or ordinary Joe, that heady nectar of Spring Break, Florida does attract one so.

But dinner at 4pm. I don't know.

“See how you are?”

Level 5

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104549 Nov 4, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Ireland has 43 words for "rain".
That's nothing. The Bible has 1700 pages for "delusional".

Level 2

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#104550 Nov 4, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't needed to lie, we leave that to you fundies.
<quoted text>
Since abio does not claim inanimate matter came to life your objection is irrelevant. Chemistry is anything BUT inanimate. Creationism is the one that claims inanimate matter came to life. Furthermore it violates its own axioms, something which I've pointed out to you repeatedly.
from Sucking bones own site

Definition:

The process through which biological life arises from inorganic matter, spontaneous origination. Abiogenesis is a theory that attempts to explain the origin of life through random natural processes.

Now that you've been proven to be a liar and an idiot who never knows what he's talking about STFU

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#104551 Nov 4, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Been there, fersure. Nothing like ski lifts at -15 and 105 in the shade 5 months later, don'tchaknow?
We've an extended house guest from the pacific NW.(grumble, mutter...) Good lord, by their temperament I don't know how the human race survived the primordial ooze without central heat and A/C. grumble, mutter....
Sunbeams and liquid sunshine.
Here, many days you can look toward some patch of clouds (or across the street) and say "somebody's getting soaked."
I love winter in MN! the negative F temperatures keeps the riff-raff out.(disclaimer...winter in a city sucks the big one, winter in the woods is magical..)

i do not think i could live where there are not 4 distinct seasons.

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