Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168587 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#104502 Nov 3, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So if I traveled east to west at a rate of one rotation per 24 hrs, would I stay young forever?
Are you disputing the scientific or geographical statement? Is science a piece of shit according to you?

“What U Don't Know U Fear”

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#104503 Nov 3, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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The old circle and ball argument.
All I can say is that when the Bible was Boss and there were scholars who spent lifetimes deciphering the Bible (rather than looking at the real world), they were sure enough that the Bible said the world is flat that they were willing to put men to the fire for saying otherwise.
In this instance they had no political or material gain to be made for making one claim over the other. They just thought the Bible was the ultimate authority and had to be right and to be followed for the safety of men's souls.
So if they thought that it was unambiguous on the point, I would defer to them. The Bible says the world is flat, according to the most intense and committed research on the subject by those who did not have the benefit of reading what they "wanted" into it.
Revisionism and the desperate search for passages that could be interpreted differently came later - when they had no choice.
Chimney you shouldn't be talking to me. Sub says he is pretty sure(doubts) that you and I get along. So you need to refrain from commenting to me. I would hate to show him he is wrong. Nuff said! Have a good one.

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#104504 Nov 3, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So if I traveled east to west at a rate of one rotation per 24 hrs, would I stay young forever?
So, science is lying?

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#104505 Nov 3, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>So if I traveled east to west at a rate of one rotation per 24 hrs, would I stay young forever?
So, from your premise, science is the bloody liar?

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#104506 Nov 3, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Chimney you shouldn't be talking to me. Sub says he is pretty sure(doubts) that you and I get along. So you need to refrain from commenting to me. I would hate to show him he is wrong. Nuff said! Have a good one.
I have to admit that I often pass over the Replaytime / Subduction Zone bits seeing as you two spend most of your time at each other's throats.

SZ says a lot of good things - when you haven't sucked him into a cockfight. All part of the fun I guess.

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#104507 Nov 3, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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GMT or UT are assigned times by man. Using man assigned times you can make it the same time at any two locations across the globe. Using solar time it can never be the same time in London as it is in New York.
Thanks,

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#104508 Nov 3, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Are you disputing the scientific or geographical statement? Is science a piece of shit according to you?
I have to applaud you again on being by far the most accurate, insightful, and logical representative on Topix for the Creationist viewpoint.

Well done.

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#104509 Nov 3, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
I know when Maz disappeared all I thought was good riddance of bad rubbish. I did not go from site to site looking for her. She may have been at other sites here during her absence, she may not have been. I pretty much stick to this little corner of Topix with occasional rare excursions to Offbeat or Atheist forums.
Perhaps she just tests everything she learned at Bob Jones University between semesters. Always arrives with a roar. Always leaves with a whimper.

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#104510 Nov 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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So you don’t know either, then why the fook did you bring it up? Sounds like stupidity to me
Thanks to replaytime. I was even applying man made concepts to judge that. You are always wrong.

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#104511 Nov 3, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope, that is human imagination, not reality, nothing is actually lost.
I have tried to explain this concept to you before using the example of whales swimming across the date line and it seems that attempt could not get past your ignorance based filtering system
So here is a little experiment, set your watch to some arbitrary and obvious time, say 5:37 and some arbitrary date, say 1st November 2013. Now cross the date line and look at your watch. You will notice that the date has not changes, just your imagination of the date has changed.
That watch is a mechanical or electronic device and not subject to the vagaries of imagination and guess what, it does not imagine…
What about the sun( solar system)?

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#104512 Nov 3, 2013
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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Nobody really knows.
But at least science tries to hazard a guess based on the tools available to us. But they by no means claim to know the absolute truth.
Religion (texts written by men) asks us to believe unsubstantiated claims about the origin of man and the universe.
But the ultimate truth is, we simply don't know how the universe started. We may never know!
" No body really knows ". That is an understatement.

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#104513 Nov 3, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> What about the sun( solar system)?
I hope you have enough sense to understand that there is nothing special about Greenwich and the starting point for developing a system of longitude could have been anywhere on earth with the exception of the north and south poles.

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#104514 Nov 4, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Oh, look! Chuckles learned a new word, "Projecting". Isn't that just precious?
Guessing!

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#104515 Nov 4, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>sure it can. it can be whatever time we wish it to be.
there are many people that use universal time...(same time all around the globe) for them it certainly is the same time in NY as london.
these are very simple concepts...
Poor Woodie. I have been using man' s concept, what about the sun ?

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#104516 Nov 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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I have to applaud you again on being by far the most accurate, insightful, and logical representative on Topix for the Creationist viewpoint.
Well done.
Likewise.

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#104517 Nov 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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I hope you have enough sense to understand that there is nothing special about Greenwich and the starting point for developing a system of longitude could have been anywhere on earth with the exception of the north and south poles.
And i hope you also know that the sun can never be at different places at the same time.

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#104518 Nov 4, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And i hope you also know that the sun can never be at different places at the same time.
Nobody said it can. Christine said that the system of longitude used to track where one is on the earth and what time it is, is a human construction and the lines are imaginary. She is right. We could move them anytime we liked with a decree. Yes the sun and the earth would move just the same and we cannot change those because they are not imaginary, they are real. But we can change our conventions in measuring what happens in the real world whenever it suits us.

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#104519 Nov 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Nobody said it can. Christine said that the system of longitude used to track where one is on the earth and what time it is, is a human construction and the lines are imaginary. She is right. We could move them anytime we liked with a decree. Yes the sun and the earth would move just the same and we cannot change those because they are not imaginary, they are real. But we can change our conventions in measuring what happens in the real world whenever it suits us.
But the time can never be the same, yes or no?
And man's constructions can also be reality?
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#104520 Nov 4, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> But the time can never be the same, yes or no?
And man's constructions can also be reality?
and here we come to the crux of the argument.

Man's construction can be a theoretical reality but not always a physical rality.

So yes - our clock has 24 hours on it that reflects a single rotation of the earth.

But it could equally have 48 hours in a day by making the HOURS 30 mins shorter.

So we have two measurements of time that are different but with the same results because the physical presence of a Sun, Moon, Earh, gravity and a solar system are tangible.

But Man's construction of an all seeing, omnipotent God is not a reality; theoretically or physically. Because it is not based on any physical or tangible backdrop.

“I started out with nothing”

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#104521 Nov 4, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> still sleeping.
We have noticed, you would not post the garbage you post if you were awake.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Still dreaming.
We have noticed, you would not post the garbage you post if you were awake.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> So science according to you is not real.
Say what? Time you woke up
Charles Idemi wrote:
Crimeariver, your statement, saying, no one knows, is an understand and sheer ignorance.
Charles Idemi wrote:
Typos, i meant, understatement and not understand.
I assume you were addressing me here so please give the name of one – just one - that’s one – O N E – only O – N – E person who knows what happened prior to 10^-34th of a second following the BB event.

Come on, anyone, living or dead, anyone will do.

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