Are you really that dense, or are you deliberately being obtuse?<quoted text>
So up in a tree or on a cliff you can see out past the horizon? Interesting.
Permit me to clarify. I'm sure you've seen the sunrise light the top of a mountain before it gets to the base?
Or even the top of a nice tall tree?
While you remain on the ground, you quarter-wit?
That's absolute proof that the Earth is not flat.
So's the simple observation of a Lunar eclipse. The Earth is OBVIOUSLY not flat.
You really do not know how this stuff works, do you?