Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 173957 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#103769 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Of course animals can never reason like humans, they are not humans and humans can never reason like animals
That does not mean that some animals are not intelligent, however it does mean that only human animals are human.
You shout that you want others to think, try your own medicine now and again, you may find it enlightening.
Ofcourse other animals level of intelligence is higher, but that of the humans, are more higher; Nuts.

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#103770 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes and?
Why are you assuming a pig would wear lipstick? Is this one of your fetishes?
Get a clue on idioms or figurative expressions. Humans level of intelligence are always higher. Nuts.

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#103771 Oct 29, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Will Charles ever come to terms with being a mammal?
My understanding of science may be quite different from yours, i do know we are mammals, primates, animals, etc, but our level of intelligence supercedes others. Period.

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#103772 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope, it upsets his god given belief that his god made him special
You are really a Numbskull.
The Dude

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#103773 Oct 29, 2013
SBT wrote:
The complexity of the axial motor and its appearance as the very first primorial cell controverts your assumed age model, admit it!
We don't have to, as there's no evidence to demonstrate it even existed at that time. But if you WANT to beat up a straw-man instead of the real thing you're doing a terrific job.
SBT wrote:
How many mutations would it take to get this right even if every one was a perfect jackpot every throw?
This being a perfect example. Jackpots aren't necessary. All you need is for something to survive and its progeny to change a little bit, and for that to survive. Many won't, but some will. Therefore a little change again, same thing happens all over again. Eventually change accumulates. This is observed.
SBT wrote:
Let's start with just one proton energized micro-stator coil
Streaming out big words while talking about a subject you don't have the slightest clue about only demonstrates to the entire world that you're bullshitting. I mean it's not as if anyone here doesn't know it.(shrug)
SBT wrote:
Double PhD Denton comments on the motor
Denton thinks you're full of crap. We've known this for decades, but your side still hasn't bothered to update their books - meaning they are either seriously misinformed, or lying.

(and still seriously misinformed)

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#103774 Oct 29, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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I'm quite sure that Charles has been referred to as "Special" on several occasions.
Views or ideology can never be the same, yes or no?
The Dude

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#103775 Oct 29, 2013
SBT wrote:
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I missed your explanation on how evolution made this motor and where the additional data came from, or where the intermediate forms are found or where evolution in bacteria is adding parts like this today or a mechanism or the science relative to the matter here? Without these i'm just wrong because i'm not an evolution believer? Till then I will live in my bliss.
No, you're wrong because you're wrong. You also missed that the entire premise of your argument was refuted by the existence of Yersinia pestis, something which I pointed out to you weeks ago now. See, you're under the mistaken impression that we need to provide you with a mutation by mutation account for every single biological lineage on this entire planet for 4 billion years, while all you need to do is shout "GODDIDIT!" any time we can't.

Meanwhile in reality all we need to do is demonstrate how the evidence unequivocally demonstrates common ancestry, something which we've done time and time again on this forum, and can do again. And since you guys NEVER actually bother to address our posts anyway it always remains unrefuted.

And again since your position requires you to be a massive hypocrite I am obliged to point out that you still have been unable to present a rational explanation for why an all-powerful universe-creating being is incapable of such a simple thing like evolution.

I want you to demonstrate God's limits which YOU claim He has. Until then, yes, you WILL remain living in bliss. And lying as you do so.

Something from which I understand your religion says you're not allowed to do.

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#103776 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I would not say billions but certainly many millions.
The majority of christians are only in it for the companionship, unlike Charles they do not actually believe goddidit by magic. This is actually more prevalent in the higher echelons of the church where even companionship takes a back seat to a regular salary.
But even so, very scary that people can let a bronze age idea dictate what they are and are not willing to learn
First class ignorance. Now do you know the exact time of your end? No! But that time must surely, this is not chance or coincident but, God.
The Dude

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#103777 Oct 29, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
Remember that none of this interferes or refutes the belief in God.
It is if your god is a big jessie-wuss wuss, like SBT's.
The Dude

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#103778 Oct 29, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
Ok I take that back about Denton.
Oh? I heard the guy had an epiphany since his old fundie days.

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#103779 Oct 29, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ofcourse other animals level of intelligence is higher, but that of the humans, are more higher; Nuts.
Wrong. Human intelligence is higher, there is a difference that it seems yoyu are incapable of understanding
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Get a clue on idioms or figurative expressions. Humans level of intelligence are always higher. Nuts.
So you do fancy a pig in lipstick – how about high heels and a tutu?
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are really a Numbskull.
So you don’t think you god made you special, then why all this ignorance about animal intelligence?
The Dude

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#103780 Oct 29, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Trash. The only habitable planet is planet. No projections or guessing here.
Then I fully expect you to provide evidence of your extra-terrestrial journey to every single planet in the entire universe and present indisputable evidence of their total barren nature.

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#103781 Oct 29, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> My understanding of science may be quite different from yours, i do know we are mammals, primates, animals, etc, but our level of intelligence supercedes others. Period.
Wow that a good one “My understanding of science may be quite different from yours,” brilliant, absolutely brilliant at showing your total ignorance.. You not only have no idea about what science can do you are also clueless about what science actually is. Unlike the babble, science is specific, it is not up to you to choose how you interpret it
The Dude

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#103782 Oct 29, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> My understanding of science may be quite different from yours, i do know we are mammals, primates, animals, etc, but our level of intelligence supercedes others. Period.
Personally I would like to compare you with an aardvark. Close run I know.

“See how you are?”

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#103783 Oct 29, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Tell me that is the one Tike replied to! Oh that's right it isn't. So what was your point again?:-)
rewritehistory, my point was obvious and I didn't split any hairs to sharpen it. Charles DID say what you claim he didn't.

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#103784 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Say what? Too much wacky backy again?
Fish go whichever way they want, the flow has very little to do with it.
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We know you don’t keep up with scientific discoveries but that is no excuse for your ignorance.
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You fooking ignorant moron, I am not explaining it again just because you are incapable of learning anything after being told five times already so tough for you.
You have explained nothing. Going from west to east, a whole day is gained and vice versa, is that not reality?

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#103785 Oct 29, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> First class ignorance. Now do you know the exact time of your end? No! But that time must surely, this is not chance or coincident but, God.
You have been injecting too much babble juice

Who said I know the exact time of my end? Certainly not me.

And who cares, certainly not me although those I leave behind will no doubt care.

People die, no god involved, live with it.

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#103786 Oct 29, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Wrong. Human intelligence is higher, there is a difference that it seems yoyu are incapable of understanding
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So you do fancy a pig in lipstick – how about high heels and a tutu?
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So you don’t think you god made you special, then why all this ignorance about animal intelligence?
God ofcourse is the creator of the universe and the living things, he created us in his image and likeness, that is why humans are termed,' intelligent animql '.

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#103787 Oct 29, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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So from a picture you assume that all prokaryotes have one and that the earliest ones did? Even though biologists painstakingly point out that the flagellum has to be the result of multiple evolutionary steps over millions of years? Even though any biology book dealing with bacteria will doubtlessly show many pitures of bacteria with and without flagella?
I am sorry but the only words I can use to describe your claim is its bloody stupid. Very, very stupid. One of the dumbest creationist attempts at distorting what biologists claim yet, and these liars have tried just about everything.
If a representative picture of a mammal had a tail would that mean biologists assume all mammals have tails?
PS Denton is an evolutionist. Cheers.
Evidence that it can be far simpler which supports a incremental development:

http://www.nature.com/msb/journal/v3/n1/full/...

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#103788 Oct 29, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Then I fully expect you to provide evidence of your extra-terrestrial journey to every single planet in the entire universe and present indisputable evidence of their total barren nature.
Appart from the earth, name any other planet that can sustain life?

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