Evolution vs. Creation

There are 163933 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#103177 Oct 25, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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It's been known the world is a sphere since the 6th century BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth
By some, but not by all. The writers of the Bible were clearly ignorant of this fact.

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#103178 Oct 25, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Thats the whole point. These guys were ignorant (though not unintelligent). Why on earth would anyone sane believe in a young earth or refuse to accept evolution just because these ancients had no idea? Only thise in the straitjacjet of having to believe "God wrote it"
I don't believe God wrote it. That would be the evolutionists that always say "God said", "God wrote", "the Word of God", etc etc.

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#103179 Oct 25, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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It's been known the world is a sphere since the 6th century BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth
Yes it was speculated to be a shpere and not conformed until 3BC according to your link. That is just a mere 1000-1300 years AFTER they started writing the bible. SO that means in the thousands years before that when the bible was being written, they did not know.

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#103180 Oct 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously don't understand your book of myths very well.
Even the last book of the Bible, that was written about 2,000 years ago, had references to a flat Earth.
It is amazing how little creationists and supposed Christians know about their own book that they supposedly worship.
To you and Igor both. The origin for the word sphere many say it was not until
Origin:
1250–1300; < Late Latin sph&#275;ra, Latin sphaera globe < Greek sphaîra ball; replacing Middle English spere < Old French spere < Late Latin sp&#275;ra, variant of sph&#275;ra

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sphere

Origin of SPHERE
Middle English spere globe, celestial sphere, from Anglo-French espere, from Latin sphaera, from Greek sphaira, literally, ball; perhaps akin to Greek spairein to quiver — more at spurn
First Known Use: 14th century.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sph...

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#103181 Oct 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously don't understand your book of myths very well.
Even the last book of the Bible, that was written about 2,000 years ago, had references to a flat Earth.
It is amazing how little creationists and supposed Christians know about their own book that they supposedly worship.
So you are assuming that even though some may have known earth to be a sphere, that the ones that wrote the bible did as well.

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#103182 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I don't believe God wrote it.
Once again, the famouse dodge.
replaytime wrote:
That would be the evolutionists that always say "God said", "God wrote", "the Word of God", etc etc.
Baloney.

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#103183 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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To you and Igor both. The origin for the word sphere many say it was not until
Origin:
1250–1300; < Late Latin sph&#275;ra, Latin sphaera globe < Greek sphaîra ball; replacing Middle English spere < Old French spere < Late Latin sp&#275;ra, variant of sph&#275;ra
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sphere
Origin of SPHERE
Middle English spere globe, celestial sphere, from Anglo-French espere, from Latin sphaera, from Greek sphaira, literally, ball; perhaps akin to Greek spairein to quiver — more at spurn
First Known Use: 14th century.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sph...
Point of order. The origin of the word 'sphere' in no way is the same as the concept of a sphere.

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#103184 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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So you are assuming that even though some may have known earth to be a sphere, that the ones that wrote the bible did as well.
No, I said no such thing. You have your stupidity turned up again today. Why don't you turn it down a notch or two?

I said there were verses in Revelations that refer to a flat Earth.

And the fact that the word "sphere" is fairly recent does not mean that people were ignorant of spherical shapes or even that the world was spherical. There have been spherical objects even before man came along. Many fruits are spherical in shape for example. Of course someone with their stupidity turned up would totally misunderstand a claim on the order of "The Earth is like an orange".

What sort of word did the Greeks use for the shape of the Earth? They were among the first who knew it was spherical.

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#103185 Oct 25, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Once again, the famouse dodge.
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Baloney.
What the hellll am I dodging by saying I don't believe God wrote it idiot.

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#103186 Oct 25, 2013
It is very hard to have a polite conversation with people when they have their stupidity turned up to 11.

Perhaps if RR and rp turned theirs down a bit they could actually learn something for once. At least they both very often illustrate that the claim "There is no such thing as a stupid question." is totally untrue.

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#103187 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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To you and Igor both. The origin for the word sphere many say it was not until
Origin:
1250–1300; < Late Latin sph&#275;ra, Latin sphaera globe < Greek sphaîra ball; replacing Middle English spere < Old French spere < Late Latin sp&#275;ra, variant of sph&#275;ra
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sphere
Origin of SPHERE
Middle English spere globe, celestial sphere, from Anglo-French espere, from Latin sphaera, from Greek sphaira, literally, ball; perhaps akin to Greek spairein to quiver — more at spurn
First Known Use: 14th century.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sph...
That's the Greek word. Are you saying there was no Hebrew word for a ball?

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#103188 Oct 25, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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That's the Greek word. Are you saying there was no Hebrew word for a ball?
Already answered but I will answer it again.

They may have had a word for ball, I don't know. Ball or even round or whatever they had know way to tell the earth was ball shaped, round, or a sphere.

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#103189 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What the hellll am I dodging by saying I don't believe God wrote it idiot.
Here's the thing, idiot. I have repeatedly asked you point blank if the bible was authored by, dictated by or otherwise inspired by a god. You steadfastly hidden behind "it was written down by man" and "it was the words of man" without ever answered the question directly. And that's a fact, jack.

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#103190 Oct 25, 2013
"they had no way" even. Have done that twice now

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#103191 Oct 25, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
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That's the Greek word. Are you saying there was no Hebrew word for a ball?
Of course not. All of their fruit was flat as well. No need for the word.

/sarcasm

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#103192 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Already answered but I will answer it again.
They may have had a word for ball, I don't know. Ball or even round or whatever they had know way to tell the earth was ball shaped, round, or a sphere.
The word was "duwr" according to Blue Letter Bible.
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#103193 Oct 25, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
It is very hard to have a polite conversation with people when they have their stupidity turned up to 11.
Perhaps if RR and rp turned theirs down a bit they could actually learn something for once. At least they both very often illustrate that the claim "There is no such thing as a stupid question." is totally untrue.
Some people have been so saturated in the stickiness of religion that is impossible for them to see past the collection plate. It is sad that they will spend their lives and hard earned money to buy tickets on the golden chariot. Sadder, still, that they are teaching that crap to innocent children. The loop continues.

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#103194 Oct 25, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Here's the thing, idiot. I have repeatedly asked you point blank if the bible was authored by, dictated by or otherwise inspired by a god. You steadfastly hidden behind "it was written down by man" and "it was the words of man" without ever answered the question directly. And that's a fact, jack.
You have asked me if the bible was written by God. I have answered it was written by man, it is the words of men. I stated to Chimney that I don't believe God wrote it. If that doesn't answer your question then it is you that have the problem reading answers. I am sorry I can't draw it out for you in crayon.

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#103195 Oct 25, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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The word was "duwr" according to Blue Letter Bible.
Just for fun. Lets say the word sphere did exist back then(even though it didn't) How would they know, what would they have used, how could they have figured out the earth was sphere 3-5 thousand years ago. The did not have anything and could not tell is the point behind it all. It is what they knew, not about a word. Some people just don't get it even when it is handed to them.

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#103196 Oct 25, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You have asked me if the bible was written by God. I have answered it was written by man, it is the words of men. I stated to Chimney that I don't believe God wrote it. If that doesn't answer your question then it is you that have the problem reading answers. I am sorry I can't draw it out for you in crayon.
Well, I may have missed your reply to Chimney but if you would have simply answer me directly...

OK, god had nothing to do with the bible. Got it!

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