Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 199159 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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St. Croix valley

#102916 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Moses started writing a book about God. So what is your point?
a book that proves the god attempted to be created therein is false...

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#102918 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Moses started writing a book about God. So what is your point?
Books were written about Moses, but most rabbinical scholars agree that none of the Pentateuch was written by him, and all would agree that there is not enough evidence to state that he did. My point would be that you shouldn't try to pass off BS as gold.

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#102919 Oct 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Genesis 1;
11 Then God said,“Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said,“Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
-NIV
So what is your point? If it's to call out the skeptics with the indisputable Truth of the Holy Word, you and Genesis have utterly and miserably failed.
My point is different chapters change in all books from more understanding. The newer chapters present differently from the older ones. The bible was not completely re-written to cover up mistakes and/or lack of knowledge. Instead it was added to. Take a book about evolution of man and species. The newer ones of today that have been re-written contradict the older ones of 100 years ago. They tell of the same/similar story, but in more detailed ways and have been changed and/or added to.

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#102920 Oct 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, at the time he was known quite well. he met many people who corroborated his existence.
no one has met your god or any god as his existence is proven false by the very people who attempted to create him.
your cult lied to you....again...
Moses talked to God. Many people back then even collaborated his story. Many seen what powers God be-stilled upon Moses. So what is your point?

Your point is you do not want to believe in God. That is what it boils down to.

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#102921 Oct 23, 2013
Edjukater wrote:
<quoted text>Moses is fictional. Pat Garrett and the rest of the people I mentioned are real.
Sure they are real. I am a big western history buff. But only real in stories now. There are no eye witnesses alive nothing but stories/books to keep their legacy going. Sounds very similar to the bible and God.

In reality there is nothing other than stories to back your claim.

We pick and chose the stories we want to believe or label myths.

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#102922 Oct 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Books were written about Moses, but most rabbinical scholars agree that none of the Pentateuch was written by him, and all would agree that there is not enough evidence to state that he did. My point would be that you shouldn't try to pass off BS as gold.
How could he write any of it? He himself was a myth too right. Those scholars should have known that and not wasted time researching it.

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St. Croix valley

#102923 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Moses talked to God. Many people back then even collaborated his story. Many seen what powers God be-stilled upon Moses. So what is your point?
Your point is you do not want to believe in God. That is what it boils down to.
they got the story wrong then as the story they wrote disproves the god they attempted to create.

none of the billy the kid stories do this...

epic logic fail....again...
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Tulsa, OK

#102924 Oct 23, 2013
Aesop was a Greek storyteller whose works were translated and read all over the world. I doubt if there is anybody who has not heard of Aesop or one of his fables.

The stories were gathered from hundreds of people and credited to Aesop. Those stories were printed and sold as Aesop's Fables.

However, there is no proof that he even existed and most people, and scholars, believe he was made up to give the actual storytellers a little more credibility. For instance, "I'm gong to tell you a story that was told to me by a wise man named Aesop."

That's kind of like the bible. Somebody invented an "Aesop" and a few apostles and passed off some fairy tales as coming from his Aesop. Or in this case "god."

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#102925 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Tick Billy the Kid era was ONLY around 150 years ago and you can't even provide evidence of him being true other than stories passed along or written in books. But you say it is true based on nothing but stories and you call that logical? LOL
You can't be serious. You infer that there are great reasons to believe the Semitic myths from 2,000 - 6,500 years ago were real events through and through, but that William Henry McCarty, Jr. and the Lincoln County War were fictitious? In that case, let me remind you that the Bible wasn't compiled until over 300 years after the death of Jesus - without any photos, newspaper archives, or government records.

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St. Croix valley

#102926 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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My point is different chapters change in all books from more understanding. The newer chapters present differently from the older ones. The bible was not completely re-written to cover up mistakes and/or lack of knowledge. Instead it was added to. Take a book about evolution of man and species. The newer ones of today that have been re-written contradict the older ones of 100 years ago. They tell of the same/similar story, but in more detailed ways and have been changed and/or added to.
so again you disprove your cult's god with no divine inspiration...

you're doin'a heckuva job, brownie...

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#102927 Oct 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they got the story wrong then as the story they wrote disproves the god they attempted to create.
none of the billy the kid stories do this...
epic logic fail....again...
There are lots of contradictions about Billy the Kid.

Some say he was right handed while others say he was left handed.

The picture that is thought to be him, people say he never carried/ had a rifle, but yet has one in the picture.

Some say Pat never really killed him some say he did.

Here are more

http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/billythekid/qand...

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#102928 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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How could he write any of it? He himself was a myth too right. Those scholars should have known that and not wasted time researching it.
Many legends have some grain of truth - It isn't unlikely there was a tribal leader named Moshe who had military experience. Did he and his followers haul butt out of Egypt? Not unlikely, either. Did he perform holy majicks and have conversations with the creator of all time and space? Just as surely as Billy the Kid had a 200 round cylinder on his revolver.

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#102929 Oct 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so again you disprove your cult's god with no divine inspiration...
you're doin'a heckuva job, brownie...
Are you really that efffn slow? I have said over 100 times now that man wrote the Bible, not God. It is the word of man.

It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man.

Do you get what I have said yet? LOL

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Everett, WA

#102930 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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My point is different chapters change in all books from more understanding. The newer chapters present differently from the older ones. The bible was not completely re-written to cover up mistakes and/or lack of knowledge. Instead it was added to. Take a book about evolution of man and species. The newer ones of today that have been re-written contradict the older ones of 100 years ago. They tell of the same/similar story, but in more detailed ways and have been changed and/or added to.
It is a mistake to assume that the pages of the Bible follow their timeline of being written. Many experts think that Job is the oldest book of the Bible. And it is far after the Pentateuch that was supposedly written by Moses in the regular Bible. And you later version of the Genesis story is not a correction, at best it is a simplification. It is still terribly wrong.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102931 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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There are lots of contradictions about Billy the Kid.
Some say he was right handed while others say he was left handed.
The picture that is thought to be him, people say he never carried/ had a rifle, but yet has one in the picture.
Some say Pat never really killed him some say he did.
Here are more
http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/billythekid/qand...
but none that disprove his very existence. like the multitude your cult created in their attempt to manufacture a god...

your cult lied to you...again...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102932 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Are you really that efffn slow? I have said over 100 times now that man wrote the Bible, not God. It is the word of man.
It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man. It is the word of man.
Do you get what I have said yet? LOL
i know for a fact it is the word of man, thus the god they create is also man-made, thus proven false...

thank you again for proving your own cult's god false.

you suck at logic...but then you are really stupid, so it seems a good fit for you...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102933 Oct 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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Many legends have some grain of truth - It isn't unlikely there was a tribal leader named Moshe who had military experience. Did he and his followers haul butt out of Egypt? Not unlikely, either. Did he perform holy majicks and have conversations with the creator of all time and space? Just as surely as Billy the Kid had a 200 round cylinder on his revolver.
200...201...whatever it takes...

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#102934 Oct 23, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so again you disprove your cult's god with no divine inspiration...
you're doin'a heckuva job, brownie...
People are divinely inspired by natures beauty to paint. Does that mean nature told them to paint?

People are divinely inspired to do many things in life.

There are many definitions of divine

Having the nature of or being a deity.

Of, relating to, emanating from, or being the expression of a deity: sought divine guidance through meditation.

Being in the service or worship of a deity; sacred.

Superhuman; godlike.

A cleric.

A theologian.

Supremely good or beautiful; magnificent: a divine performance

Extremely pleasant; delightful: had a divine time at the ball.

Heavenly; perfect.

To guess.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Divinely

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#102935 Oct 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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It is a mistake to assume that the pages of the Bible follow their timeline of being written. Many experts think that Job is the oldest book of the Bible. And it is far after the Pentateuch that was supposedly written by Moses in the regular Bible. And you later version of the Genesis story is not a correction, at best it is a simplification. It is still terribly wrong.
No one really knows how the bible was written or when, or who for that matter. All we know is it was written by many a very long time ago.

As far as the books/chapters/verses, they could be out of order just as easily some of the interpretations of what was written could be wrong.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102936 Oct 23, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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People are divinely inspired by natures beauty to paint. Does that mean nature told them to paint?
People are divinely inspired to do many things in life.
There are many definitions of divine
Having the nature of or being a deity.
Of, relating to, emanating from, or being the expression of a deity: sought divine guidance through meditation.
Being in the service or worship of a deity; sacred.
Superhuman; godlike.
A cleric.
A theologian.
Supremely good or beautiful; magnificent: a divine performance
Extremely pleasant; delightful: had a divine time at the ball.
Heavenly; perfect.
To guess.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Divinely
not the kind of divinely inspired the bible MUST have to be the word of the god your cult wishes it was...

sorry, your lame attempt at logic, and your own stupity, have just disproven the very god you worship.

now you are back to your tried and true crap of attempting to use the multiple definitions of words to cover your utter, and quite frankly, very embarrasing, failure....

so sad....replay...so sad.

if you were not such an unmitigated asshole, i might almost feel sorry for you...

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