Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 164702 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#102527 Oct 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Sorry, hearsay is not circumstantial evidence.
Sorry, you do not know what "circumstantial evidence" is.
You said hearsay isn't circumstantial evidence. By itself it isn't. You didn't read what I wrote.

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#102528 Oct 22, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The traditional idea was as you said, a shallow sea covered the Earth and the continents poked up from under it. But discoveries
are showing us that was wrong. First, the first continent foundations precede the sea, and we know that water can penetrate deep inside the crust.
http://www.livescience.com/1312-huge-ocean-di...
The theory I spoke of is the one of whereafter the earth being a molten ball of lava began to cool and an outer crust formed and the center began to solidify, the crust remained hot. Volcanoes more numerous than we'll ever imagine with the beginning of plate tectonics expelled a mixture of gasses and as the crust continued to cool and thicken, it rained. And it rained. It rained for a long undetermined amount of time but it rained so much it caused the first seas and oceans to appear. But it's theorized because the crust was still thin and warm, the water on top didn't penetrate very deeply into the crust so much of the earth's water was top surface. This is believed because every mountain rage from the youngest to the oldest all show signs of having been pushed up from under seas and or oceans.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#102529 Oct 22, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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The theory I spoke of is the one of whereafter the earth being a molten ball of lava began to cool and an outer crust formed and the center began to solidify, the crust remained hot. Volcanoes more numerous than we'll ever imagine with the beginning of plate tectonics expelled a mixture of gasses and as the crust continued to cool and thicken, it rained. And it rained. It rained for a long undetermined amount of time but it rained so much it caused the first seas and oceans to appear. But it's theorized because the crust was still thin and warm, the water on top didn't penetrate very deeply into the crust so much of the earth's water was top surface. This is believed because every mountain rage from the youngest to the oldest all show signs of having been pushed up from under seas and or oceans.
Even the oldest of mountain ranges that we see on the Earth today are much younger than the Earth itself. In fact younger on the order of 4 billion years. Now there may be some roots of ancient mountain ranges left, but the actual ancient mountains have long ago been eroded back to the sea.

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#102530 Oct 22, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Wrong, every point is fact and every point you ignore.
Including the multiple references in the babble for some odd reason.
It’s almost as though you can only see the bits (small bits) of the
babble that agree with you own beliefs. Tell me, you would not happen to
be christian would you?
Ignorance in the highest order. You are the one that is babbling not the bible.

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#102531 Oct 22, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Still imaginary lines, it really does not matter how hard you stamp your foot.
All you need to do is go out and photograph one to prove me wrong but guess what, you can’t, you lose
Yes imaginary, but invisible, they exist, because going from west to east, you gain a whole day, while going from east to west, you lose a whole day. This is reality. NUTS!

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#102532 Oct 22, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope, that’s where YOU got your limits and boundaries.
But of course science has limits
Science does not make moral judgements – godbots do
Yes, science has. That is why it can not completely answer man's pressing problems. God's judgements is/ are always justified.

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#102533 Oct 22, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Ahh I see you have read it at last, or at least part of it, thank you
for being so honest, in the past you have actually denied this
And just about every other religion warns about worshipping any other
god or group of gods, why should yours be so different? Oh I get it,
it’s because it’s the one you believe in – right?
I never disagreed on the bible mentioning other gods or goddesses. But the bible also specifically mentioned the ineffective nature of those gods. So, why should we worship something made with our hands?

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#102534 Oct 22, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Well apart from the fact that you lied (probably down to ignorance but
still no excuse) and apart from the fact that 2/3rds of the world’s
population definitely do not believe in your god (and a goodly number of
those that claim abrahamic faith too). There is also the fact that you
would not know the meaning of “truth” if it sat on your face and farted.
Here let me help you.
Truth
a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like
the true or actual state of a matter
actuality or actual existence.
the state or character of being true.
See, it has nothing to do with what you believe to be truth but what is
ACTUALLY true
Tell that to yourself. Like i said, God is one. Many faiths sees him in many different lights. He should not be worshipped through any mediums, that is where many faiths are getting it wrong.

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#102535 Oct 22, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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You didn't understand the answer.
You asked, "Can science create a natural human brain?"
I responded, "Science describes by observation and testing, it creates understanding."
"Science" does not create brains, gall bladders, computers or yo-yos. It describes. Your question is fallacious.
Good! So you have admitted, that science has its own limitations. It can not accurately test and observed every FACTS. Period.

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Seffner, FL

#102536 Oct 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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I couldn't help but notice you have no answer as to how life self assembled. Don't feel stupid, no one does!
How many times do we have to tell you that we agree that science does not - as yet and maybe never - have an answer to how life began. Are you really this stupid or do you just like whining on the internet?

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Seffner, FL

#102537 Oct 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Educate us all about how the wind driven molecules landed in the seas and produced life?
How many goddamn times to you have to be told the question has not been answered??? It's a work in progress. Do you know that that means or do I have to explain that to your dumb ass as well.

Here. Since using Google or Wikipedia is apparently well over you head, here is a good summary of the current research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

And before you go into your crybaby mode about Wiki, notice the 188 reference links at the bottom of the page to further information.
bohart wrote:
I mean sucking bone says there's plenty of evidence, he wouldn't be lying would he?
No, he's not. If you would take the time to read and understand - a long shot, I know - maybe you would catch on to what he's actually saying. I'm not putting any money on that, however.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102538 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It says serpent, and that it's the craftiest beast in the field. It does not say whatever tempted Eve was a snake, it says serpent.
I cant be any more clearer than that.
Yeah I know. That's the problem.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102539 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No it doesn't.
The theory behind common ancestry only postulates.
That isn't fact.
It's not a fact in the same way that it's not a fact your DNA demonstrates your relation to your parents. After all it's only a theory.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102540 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Okay, that I don't understand. Are you implying that plants create themselves? If not, what are you implying?
Plants create themselves all the time, just as we do. You claim that intelligence is necessary, but plants aren't intelligent. Ergo natural processes create life every day without any necessity of intelligent intervention.

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Seffner, FL

#102541 Oct 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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The theory boy, is that winds blowing random molecules into primordial seas stirred by tides created life! Now Aura And sucking bone have the evidence that this occurred but won't share it with the those who are not members of their cult
It not a theory, dumbass. Why are you so willfully ignorant?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102542 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There is no evidence. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. No evidence of any kind that life can create itself, not physical evidence, testimonial, circumstantial or even anecdotal. None.
There is none. No one can show scientific proof that life can create itself. No one has ever created life in a science lab, even under the most favorable conditions possible. So if "intelligent" human beings cannot create life, how is life supposed to have come into existence by itself?
If even the most intelligent organism can't create life then why is it a good idea to think that intelligence is needed to create life?

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Seffner, FL

#102543 Oct 22, 2013
bohart wrote:
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"The key to building life has been discovered"!
Please return to us old Aura Mytha and bestow upon mankind the secret of life!
Sucking bone, Mike F, Woodtick and Dude will not share the secret. Only you can open the sacred text to reveal it!
I've answered you, Blow Hard. Repeatedly. You don't want answers. You don't want an honest conversation. You just want to crap all over the forum.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102544 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you, IF ANYBODY HERE, has evidence that life can create itself, post it.
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Go google your little ass off.
I didn't need google. I posted it before you posted this. You said you didn't understand. Not our problem.(shrug)

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#102545 Oct 22, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Poor bohart, still playing the fool.
And quite well, I might add.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#102547 Oct 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Nothing.
But that experiment is not natural, it's forced.
No more so than a plant growing in a plant pot is forced. You claim therefore that all plants on Earth required an intelligent planter. This isn't the case.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Even if they succeeded in creating life, which they haven't even got close to, that wouldn't mean that life could create itself naturally.
That man-made life would have a creator - man.
Just like man has a creator - God.
Just like God has a creator. Cue fundie hypocrisy in 3, 2, 1...

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