Evolution vs. Creation

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#102400 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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All the evidence we have today tells us that life cannot create itself.
Since we know life cannot spontaneously occur, a creator of some sort is necessary.
1.) nope.
2.a)nope. b.)nope.

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#102401 Oct 21, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
The scientifically illiterate will attempt to seize upon this to denigrate science and specifically, evolution.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's common.
What science "knows" changes often.
Huh?

Did I call it? or not?

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#102402 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Serpent in Genesis was Satan, in whatever form he took.
God cursed that form to become a snake.
That's why Genesis calls him a "Serpent", a lying, treacherous, sly individual.
Fairy tales.

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#102403 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:

in *your* opinion.
If you, IF ANYBODY HERE, has evidence that life can create itself, post it.

...

Go google your little ass off.

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#102404 Oct 21, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
1.) nope.
2.a)nope. b.)nope.
With that kind of argument, you may be able to write a paper...

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#102405 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, I understand that.
My question is, and has always been, what was that supposed first life?
We don't know yet. We may never know. You know that. I know that. We all know that. So why ask dumbass questions?

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#102406 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The Serpent in Genesis was Satan, in whatever form he took.
God cursed that form to become a snake.
That's why Genesis calls him a "Serpent", a lying, treacherous, sly individual.
And you believe that - while professing not to be a creationist... 0.o
Well, that does clear up that old indian saying "Redneck type with forked tongue."

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#102407 Oct 21, 2013
More science:

Hitchhiking virus confirms saga of ancient human migration
October 21st, 2013 in Biology / Cell & Microbiology

A study of the full genetic code of a common human virus offers a dramatic confirmation of the "out-of-Africa" pattern of human migration, which had previously been documented by anthropologists and studies of the human genome.

The virus under study, herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1), usually causes nothing more severe than cold sores around the mouth, says Curtis Brandt, a professor of medical microbiology and ophthalmology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Brandt is senior author of the study, now online in the journal PLOS ONE.

When Brandt and co-authors Aaron Kolb and CÚcile AnÚ compared 31 strains of HSV-1 collected in North America, Europe, Africa and Asia, "the result was fairly stunning," says Brandt.

"The viral strains sort exactly as you would predict based on sequencing of human genomes. We found that all of the African isolates cluster together, all the virus from the Far East, Korea, Japan, China clustered together, all the viruses in Europe and America, with one exception, clustered together," he says.

"What we found follows exactly what the anthropologists have told us, and the molecular geneticists who have analyzed the human genome have told us, about where humans originated and how they spread across the planet."

<more at>

http://phys.org/news/2013-10-hitchhiking-viru...

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#102408 Oct 21, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Huh?
Did I call it? or not?
Too easy. No points.

;-)

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#102409 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

That's common.
What science "knows" changes often.
Kong_ wrote:

Huh?
Did I call it? or not?
Incorrect. What I said did not denigrate science, it's just a fact.

It's like calling a fat man fat....

Just a fact.

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#102410 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:

We don't know yet. We may never know. You know that. I know that. We all know that. So why ask dumbass questions?
I like your honesty.

There are many here, mostly atheists, that claim some supposed evidence of it exists.

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#102411 Oct 21, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
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And you believe that - while professing not to be a creationist... 0.o
Well, that does clear up that old indian saying "Redneck type with forked tongue."
A Christian and a Creationist are different things.

I'm sure you already knew that.

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#102412 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If you, IF ANYBODY HERE, has evidence that life can create itself, post it.
...
Go google your little ass off.
Asked and answered.

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#102413 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I like your honesty.
There are many here, mostly atheists, that claim some supposed evidence of it exists.
There is evidence that supports possibilities.

And I'm always honest.

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#102414 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Lol, the Urey-Miller....
That was natural, huh?
Oh, here we go. Again. What's your problem with Urey-Miller?

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#102415 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Oh, here we go. Again. What's your problem with Urey-Miller?
Nothing.

But that experiment is not natural, it's forced.

Even if they succeeded in creating life, which they haven't even got close to, that wouldn't mean that life could create itself naturally.

That man-made life would have a creator - man.

Just like man has a creator - God.

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#102416 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Asked and answered.
I've never seen that answer.

Please, indulge me.

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#102417 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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There is evidence that supports possibilities.
And I'm always honest.
As am I.

Sure, there's evidence to support a possibility, just like there's evidence to support the possibility of alien life or Bigfoot, but that's not evidence.
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#102418 Oct 21, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
You can take every chemical, gas, mineral, element there are and throw them all together in water and all you will come up with are a bunch of mixed up chemicals, gases, minerals, elements polluting the water. It would be a safe bet to say they have tried in several million ways and have failed in several million ways. Even with science helping it along, life does not spring from nonlife. But this one time in band camp, 3.5 billion years ago, life came from nonlife all by itself. What a bunch of dreamers.
This one time, before band camp, an (presumably) old being magically pulled a universe out of thin air (though there was no air) and filled an infinite desolate void with infinite galaxies ablaze with beautiful lights. In the center of one of these galaxies he put the earth and filled it with life. Now, all we have to do to repay this being is sing him songs, never doubt him, and give money to those who claim to be his spokespersons. Yeah, talk about a bunch of dreamers.

C'mon people! You're adults, shake off the childhood brainwashing and look at this thing with your own minds.

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#102420 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nothing.
But that experiment is not natural, it's forced.
Even if they succeeded in creating life, which they haven't even got close to, that wouldn't mean that life could create itself naturally.
That man-made life would have a creator - man.
Just like man has a creator - God.
Jesus H Christ! It was an experiment! An investigation. What would you have them do? Create another universe and sit back and watch? Ridiculous.

There *may* have had a creator but - so far - there no evidence of that.

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