Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 220747 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#102340 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, you did give the answer. You just didn't read your own post very well.
The Bible says it was a talking serpent, not a snake. You own post of Genesis confirmed that.
You DO know that serpent doesn't always and only mean snake, right?
So, a talking SERPENT.

Yeah.

That's much more logical.
It all makes sense now.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#102341 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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With zero evidence of that.....
Repeating an error does not make it true.

There is evidence for abiogenesis. There is not enough evidence to lift it up above the level of hypothesis yet. In fact there have been thousands of successful experiments giving evidence for abiogenesis since the Miller, Urey experiment. Back at that time creatards were claiming that the building blocks of life, amino acids, could not form naturally. The Miller Urey experiment showed that they were wrong.

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#102342 Oct 21, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I donít care what you asked or not, I can prove it so what you claim you know is irrelevant to fact, irrelevant to biology and irrelevant to physics. So basiclly nothing more that self delusion or lies
I know what you know, that air and ionizing radiation can be seen, which is why I said air and ionizing radiation can be seen.

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#102343 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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And this is a scientific site??? Get a grip!
http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/scien...
That is a reputable site.

I said nothing in reference to linking only to scientific sites.

I'm not biased like y'all are.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102344 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, you did give the answer. You just didn't read your own post very well.
The Bible says it was a talking serpent, not a snake. You own post of Genesis confirmed that.
You DO know that serpent doesn't always and only mean snake, right?
any talking serpents in the real world? nope...not one..

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#102345 Oct 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Actually if you noticed a number of those posts weren't even attacking fundies. I just thought it would be fun to take over the last 24 hours worth of threads for a bit.(shrug)
Which forum are you guys on?

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#102346 Oct 21, 2013
MikeF wrote:
Neato.

Look at the "phylogenetic tree of life" chart.

Where's it lead to at the bottom?

Nowhere.....

Thanks for your help in demonstrating that there is no evidence for the common ancestor.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102347 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
If you call these opinions of yours "evidence against God", you're nuts.
Evidence against God is unnecessary. And impossible.

Just like the Cosmic Sheep.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#102348 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That is a reputable site.
I said nothing in reference to linking only to scientific sites.
I'm not biased like y'all are.
Wrong, it is not a reputable site.

You lying fundamental moron. The very first claim was debunked over a hundred years ago. A reputable site does not use arguments that are over a hundred years dead.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102349 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ya, you did give the answer. You just didn't read your own post very well.
The Bible says it was a talking serpent, not a snake. You own post of Genesis confirmed that.
You DO know that serpent doesn't always and only mean snake, right?
Then what does it mean exactly? Apparently you are unable to narrow down the precise definition as it is supposed to apply to the Bible.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102350 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That is a reputable site.
I said nothing in reference to linking only to scientific sites.
I'm not biased like y'all are.

Ah good, then we both agree that your site is not scientific. Then it appears we have reached a fundamental impass. We are only interested in scientific evidence. You, along with your non-scientific site is only interested apologetics which you personally find to be 'reputable'. Further discussion appears non-constructive.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102351 Oct 21, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Which forum are you guys on?
He was referring to the other day (my brief take over had disappeared now), but I post from the evolution forum. Threads are often cross-referenced across different forums, for instance this thread could be in the atheism forum.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#102352 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Neato.
Look at the "phylogenetic tree of life" chart.
Where's it lead to at the bottom?
Nowhere.....
Thanks for your help in demonstrating that there is no evidence for the common ancestor.
What a Maroon!!

Need I say any more? Another lying idiot for Jesus who has no idea what evidence is.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102353 Oct 21, 2013
bohart wrote:
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You are amazingly irrational, you buy into a theory with absolutely no evidence , then berate others for what you say is the same thing!
You are operating from a philosophically religious viewpoint, so please you and your ilk should stop hiding behind science. It doesn't support your beliefs with evidence
Oh hey Bo. Which theory are you referring to?

Remember there is no argument you have used that I have not refuted. Do you have something different to add or you still playing the Nelson Muntz routine and showing everyone how ignorant you are?

Since: Jul 10

United States

#102354 Oct 21, 2013
I have not waded through the 97000 posts to make sure, but, I don't see many references to actual Creationist Research.

Sure there are lots of opinion pieces on the ToE, but sadly nothing on Creationist research.

Is that because they do none?

Also, the ToE could be falsified tomorrow, but that would not make any flavor of creationism a viable alternate.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#102355 Oct 21, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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He was referring to the other day (my brief take over had disappeared now), but I post from the evolution forum. Threads are often cross-referenced across different forums, for instance this thread could be in the atheism forum.
And in the Offbeat Forum.

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#102356 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That is a reputable site.
Sure it is, bucko. Have you ever read any of the articles beside the one you mentioned? Ever examine any of the links on the site?

That you think this reputable speaks volumes about you.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I said nothing in reference to linking only to scientific sites.
I'm not biased like y'all are.
Of course! Why would you want to use science to support your position. Much better to use your so-called 'reputable sites', huh?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102357 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh. Neat.
The theory [common ancestor] specifically postulates that all of the earth's known biota are genealogically related, much in the same way that siblings or cousins are related to one another. Thus, universal common ancestry entails the transformation of one species into another and, consequently, macroevolutionary history and processes involving the origin of higher taxa.
A theory postulating is not a fact.
Try again.
Where's your evidence of the, THE, common ancestor. You know, the first life where all other life came from.
It's not necessary. DNA alone demonstrates common ancestry (although there's plenty of other evidence besides). In order to argue against this your position requires you to claim that DNA works exactly how it's observed but at some undefined point in the past it stopped doing so due to the interference of a magic Jew. Given this fact it is highly disingenuous of you to be asking for evidence considering that evidence simply does not matter to your position one way in the slightest.

But then considering you've been dancing for 30+ pages over the definition of "serpent" your disingenuousness would certainly justify putting you under that same label.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#102358 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Neato.
Look at the "phylogenetic tree of life" chart.
Where's it lead to at the bottom?
Nowhere.....
Thanks for your help in demonstrating that there is no evidence for the common ancestor.
I demonstrated nothing other than you inability to understand a very simple concept. Do you have to have everything explained to you like a 3rd grader? The bottom of the tree represent the emergence of life. Which is a scientifically unsettled question. Duh!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#102359 Oct 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I believe in creation through evolution.
All the evidence we have today suggests that life cannot create itself, therefore a creator is necessary.
Actually that's not the case. Go look at plants.

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