Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 222739 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#101990 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Show me that they are a scientific, peer reviewed site.
this from their FAQs page...

"As a general rule, you should never rely too heavily on anything you read on the Internet. Read the primary, reviewed literature before making up your mind on any topic. Most of the archive's essays provide references to primary sources to make it easier for you to do this"

hmmm....

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#101991 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and that is clear, verifiable and undeniable proof of life in the universe.
if there is life in the universe, what would your answer be?
I do not attempt to prove other life, i just accurately stated we are now looking for more life in the universe.
one would need to have even one shred of evidence for any god before the talk of disproving one could even start...do you have this shred? guess not, so the talk of disproving it hasn't begun yet.
disproving the abrahamic cult's god has ended. done nad over...
I have never said there is not life in our universe. I said it is clear to see after going to the moon and mars, seeing out far into are universe with Hubble, earth has the only life we know of, have studied, have seen, have tested, have observed. Do you agree?

Before man went to the moon they thought life could be there. They thought life could be on Mars too. What did they find out from each of those encounters. What have they seen in our universe, besides earth that has even hinted at life? Do you agree?

Just because it is here on earth, which is in our universe since you like that word so well, does not mean it does exist anywhere else in our universe. Do you agree?

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#101992 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>this from their FAQs page...
"As a general rule, you should never rely too heavily on anything you read on the Internet. Read the primary, reviewed literature before making up your mind on any topic. Most of the archive's essays provide references to primary sources to make it easier for you to do this"
hmmm....
If it is on the internet it has to be true right. lol

The sad thing is many people believe that, especially if it goes in their favor.

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#101993 Oct 20, 2013
ispdiva wrote:
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Why?
Because he made the claim. He rules are if you make a claim you have to back it up with evidence. Good enough answer for you?

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#101994 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
RR, when it comes to debunking creationism my favorite site is Talk Origins, not Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a useful site. But since you brought up Wikipedia I found the actual Wiki article on Polystrate fossils, it debunks your claim too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polystrate_fossi...
Liar. Wiki explains what a polystrate fossil is, it doesn't debunk anything.

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#101995 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Tick here is you a question to ponder on. If life created itself out of non-life, which is pretty ingenious. Why did it create itself having to die off?
huh? perhaps you mistyped something there?

life had to come from non-life no matter how you look at it...some god creating it or naturally and rationally.

you really don't do logic, do you?

sheesh, you are an idiot!

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#101996 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>are you forgetting who you are talking to? the guy who thinks UFOs transferred knowledge from the Americas to the Near East? the guy who thinks bicycles are magic? this guy has made one braindead claim after another...
even the thought of a rational discussion with this fool is laughable...
And that is your mistake. I never once said or claimed anything about UFO's. I said it is interesting to read. You should try reading sometime. About the bicycle. You still never have said how they exactly work. All you could say is how we ride them.

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#101997 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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If it is on the internet it has to be true right. lol
The sad thing is many people believe that, especially if it goes in their favor.
that is exactly the opposite of what this site is saying.

you really are a fool, aren't you? you prove it with almost every post you make.

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#101998 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Is talk origins a scientific site?
Your rule means you follow them too. No more Wiki or The TalkOrigins links from you. They will no be invalid unless they are scientific sites.
He won't understand that.

He thinks that any site that isn't Christian of some sort is scientific enough to consider honest. Lol

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#101999 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I have never said there is not life in our universe. I said it is clear to see after going to the moon and mars, seeing out far into are universe with Hubble, earth has the only life we know of, have studied, have seen, have tested, have observed. Do you agree?
Before man went to the moon they thought life could be there. They thought life could be on Mars too. What did they find out from each of those encounters. What have they seen in our universe, besides earth that has even hinted at life? Do you agree?
Just because it is here on earth, which is in our universe since you like that word so well, does not mean it does exist anywhere else in our universe. Do you agree?
if you observed Earth with the HST from 200 LY away, would you be able to determine if there was life here?

yo prove your ignorance more and more with every single post.

life exists in the universe. we are now looking for more.

not one teensy shred of evidence in all the universe you said we explored of any god, gods or goddesses...not one shred. why do you think that is?

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#102000 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What makes you think there were glaciers up in the Andes above the Atacama? If you follow this link you will see that there were spots during the last glaciation where the Andes were bare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Last_glacia...
Most of Chili and much of the higher elevated Andes where most of the Atacama desert is located was covered in snow and glaciers during the last glacial age prior to our interglacial period that has melted that snow and most of those glaciers that did exist. But you knew that correct?

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#102001 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>huh? perhaps you mistyped something there?
life had to come from non-life no matter how you look at it...some god creating it or naturally and rationally.
you really don't do logic, do you?
sheesh, you are an idiot!
I did not miss-type anything at all. By the God stories passed down they say why life has limits.

Your belief is life just created itself from non-life, by itself. So again "If life created itself out of non-life, which is pretty ingenious. Why did it create itself having to die off?"

Oh I know you won't have an answer besides a "duh, I don't know".

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#102002 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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And that is your mistake. I never once said or claimed anything about UFO's. I said it is interesting to read. You should try reading sometime. About the bicycle. You still never have said how they exactly work. All you could say is how we ride them.
how we ride bikes is how they work. you still haven't learned how to ask a proper question to get the answer you want, have you? you must be really fucking stupid.

why bikes balance is not magic...nor is the shit on the whackjob sites you think have any credence at all. you are a idiotic, ignorant loon, unable to back up anything you claim...

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#102003 Oct 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Liar. Wiki explains what a polystrate fossil is, it doesn't debunk anything.
You did not read the article, or more likely, you did not understand it. And again, polystrate is a very poor term since the fossils are all found in a single stratum. They may go through several layers in that stratum but that is not a problem and does not support the idea of a world wide flood.

Technically there is no scientific evidence for a flood at all. To have scientific evidence that supports something you first need a scientific hypothesis or theory, and there is no scientific theory or hypothesis of the flood that has been made by creation "scientists".

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#102004 Oct 20, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Most of Chili and much of the higher elevated Andes where most of the Atacama desert is located was covered in snow and glaciers during the last glacial age prior to our interglacial period that has melted that snow and most of those glaciers that did exist. But you knew that correct?
Where is your evidence that supports this claim?

The article that I linked indicated that was not the case.

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#102005 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>that is exactly the opposite of what this site is saying.
you really are a fool, aren't you? you prove it with almost every post you make.
It is a evolution site, not a scientific site.

Talk.origins is a Usenet newsgroup devoted to the discussion and debate of biological and physical origins. Most discussions in the newsgroup center on the creation/evolution controversy, but other topics of discussion include the origin of life, geology, biology, catastrophism, cosmology and theology.

The TalkOrigins Archive is a collection of articles and essays, most of which have appeared in talk.origins at one time or another. The primary reason for this archive's existence is to provide mainstream scientific responses to the many frequently asked questions (FAQs) that appear in the talk.origins newsgroup and the frequently rebutted assertions of those advocating intelligent design or other creationist pseudosciences.

http://talkorigins.org/

FAQ is addressed mainly to creationists

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-welcome.html

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#102006 Oct 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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He won't understand that.
He thinks that any site that isn't Christian of some sort is scientific enough to consider honest. Lol
No moron, I explained to the idiot more than once why TalkOrigins is a scientific site. It bases its articles upon peer reviewed science and sites and links those articles.

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#102007 Oct 20, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Liar. Wiki explains what a polystrate fossil is, it doesn't debunk anything.
Wiki also explains how polystrate fossils form and thus why they don't prove Noah's flood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polystrate_fossi...

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#102008 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if you observed Earth with the HST from 200 LY away, would you be able to determine if there was life here?
yo prove your ignorance more and more with every single post.
life exists in the universe. we are now looking for more.
not one teensy shred of evidence in all the universe you said we explored of any god, gods or goddesses...not one shred. why do you think that is?
You intentionally skip the 'ET' past of the conversation.

There is no evidence if extra terrestrial life in the universe. None.

Do you believe in et?

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#102009 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how we ride bikes is how they work. you still haven't learned how to ask a proper question to get the answer you want, have you? you must be really fucking stupid.
why bikes balance is not magic...nor is the shit on the whackjob sites you think have any credence at all. you are a idiotic, ignorant loon, unable to back up anything you claim...
So by your explanation then a car works because we start it and push the gas pedal for go and the brake pedal for stop. WOW I did not know how a car worked was so simple. LOL

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