Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221489 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#101813 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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I never heard or read that one. You have a link to that?
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...

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#101814 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What evidence to you have from the bible that God does not exist besides the hearsay of man? Oh that's right. That is all you have.
No, we have the countless self contradictions of the Bible itself. Here is a link to only a few of them:

http://bibviz.com/

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#101815 Oct 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Forced? so you are blaming your god for your tantrums?
Yet you IGNORE the babble and cling to your delusional belief.
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Actually they were the FACTS, gleaned from the christian babble that christians are supposed to abide by and that you most obviously know nothing about.
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Yes that’s what I said and you called me an idiot and had a tantrum, now you agree that the babble mentions several gods and goddesses, go figure
And you see no problem in living with such confusion?
Yes, the bible mentioned many gods and goddesses, but specifically warned against serving those gods. Do you normally think with your brains closed?

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#101816 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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We do have evidence that supports the existence of extra terrestrial life. But then, you never were to bright, were you?
Lets see it. That should be an easy task for you to do. So you believe in ET and UFO's but not a God. Hilarious!

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Everett, WA

#101817 Oct 20, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Besides you evident unfamiliarity with science, have you ever heard of Google or Wikipedia? Who does your high school projects for you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_system#For...
RR claims that he is "edumacated" he has not provided any evidence of that. But then he has not provided evidence for any of his claims.

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Earth

#101818 Oct 20, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The fact still remain that water is only 0.2% of Earths mass, even if the surface were flat the water would be 2,686 metres deep.
That's 1.669 miles a mile and 5/8s.
Everest is 8,848 m that's 5.49789 miles.
So you see your flood is a physical impossibility.
You forget the water below china is displacing matter like a sponge. You cant squeeze a sponge out and expect it to be more water in a bowl. You could possibly have a local flood this way, but the sponge will soak the water back up.
The estimate of how much water is in the crust is a 'best guess' and not accurate by actual evidence. Here's some old info you seem to have missed. Your welcome :)

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/...

Inner Earth May Hold More Water Than the Seas
By Ben Harder
for National Geographic News
March 7, 2002
Molten rocks deep in the earths interior may be surprisingly wet, Japanese researchers say. From lab experiments, they have concluded there may be more H2O deep underground than in all oceans, lakes, and rivers combined.

The scientists first heated "mineral cocktails" to a white-hot 1600 degrees Celsius (2900 degrees Fahrenheit) and squeezed them until the pressure reached more than three million pounds per square inch (200,000 kilograms per square centimeter). Then they cooked the samples for an hour.
The experiments replicated the environment and conditions deep in the Earth.

Based on what they witnessed in their lab, the researchers concluded that more water probably exists deep within the Earth than is present on Earth's surface—as much as five times more.

"Our results suggest that the lower mantle can potentially store considerable amounts of water," said Motohiko Murakami of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, where the experiments were conducted.

"The presence of water in the crystal structure of [deep-Earth] minerals would be expected to soften the minerals and change their flow behavior," he added. That, in turn, could affect how the innards of the planet mix and shift over time, and could indirectly affect conditions and forces near the surface, such as plate tectonics.

Wet Rocks

RiversideRedneck

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#101819 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
So far you have shown yourself to be the ignorant one fool.
What is your evidence that the O.T. laws do no apply to Christians?
That is an idiotic statement that Christian bigots often claim. What makes the Ten Commandments special?
You worship your Bible and you do not even know what it says. How weak is that?
I find it very strange that you seem to know me better than myself. For example, you claim that I don't know what the Bible says. That's very odd.

You ask what the Bible says about christians and the old laws. Why do you ask? You've proclaimed yourself to being the Bible expert here, you should know. I'll tell you anyway.

You have to understand that the issue is knowing that the Old Testament law was given to the nation of Israel, not to Christians. Some of the laws were to show the Israelites how to worship God and atone for sin. Some of the laws were intended to make the Israelites distinct from other nations.

None of the Old Testament law is binding on us today. When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law.(Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15).

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St. Croix valley

#101820 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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"Without evidence of the existence of something the logical belief is that it does not exist." Is that why we are still looking for ET, because after years and years of studies and tests, years and years of space exploration, with no evidence what so ever, we still believe ET is still out there somewhere? LOL
see...this is where you show your complete and utter inability to use logic.

there is verifiable proof of life in the universe...us. there is not one teensy weensy eensy shred of evidence for any god, gods or goddesses ever, anywhere in the universe.

now?

“Pissing people off since 1949”

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#101821 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Then you must worship science books by your logic. If you believe what the books says, according to you, then you must worship it.


You skull is so think it's a wonder there isn't room for a brain.

If you believe in god, then point is this: There is the reality of the universe and the bible. If you choose the bible over reality, you are not worshiping a creator but a book.

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#101822 Oct 20, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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My next door neighbour is Hindu so your post is irrelevant on three counts
Hindus or not, the truth always prevails.

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St. Croix valley

#101823 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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So by your logic, hearsay of others is qualified as evidence. That is interesting.
it is not hearsay by any stretch of your feeble imagination.

the facts are clear that the words of the bible attempt to create a god that the bible itself disproves. what part of this are you not clear on?

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#101824 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, we have the countless self contradictions of the Bible itself. Here is a link to only a few of them:
http://bibviz.com/
So like Tick, you base your evidence and facts off of hearsay from man, not facts or evidence. Just as I suspected.

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#101825 Oct 20, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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We can never get the "truth" from Christians because so many creationists lie.
ALL religions claim "truth". But FACT is that not one of them can show that theirs is more valid than any other.
Same with your impossible theory of evolution. Faith is the issue.

RiversideRedneck

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#101826 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:

Wrong again moron. If you worshiped God you would not believe the obvious fallacies of the Bible.
For example...?
Sadly you are not even consistent in believing all of the fallacies of the Bible. For example the Bible claims more than once by word and deed that the Earth is flat. Yet practically no Christian believes that. They now reinterpret the Bible and try to ignore that the people who wrote it thought the Earth was flat and wrote the Bible that way.
O_o

Please cite the scripture that says the earth is flat.
If you worshiped God you would not hang on so tightly to your fallacious beliefs. Your problem is that you worship the Bible, not God.
To what fallacious beliefs are you referring?

I don't worship the Bible, dude. I worship God. Can you grasp that very simple concept?

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Evolution is true.....

#101827 Oct 20, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God is one. Trinity!
There's no such thing. It's a Catholic construct from the 300's AD

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#101828 Oct 20, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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RR claims that he is "edumacated" he has not provided any evidence of that. But then he has not provided evidence for any of his claims.
Just for shyts and grins. You claim to be educated all the time and yet you have not shown evidence of that or some of your claims. Just you word and/or opinion.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101829 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Lets see it. That should be an easy task for you to do. So you believe in ET and UFO's but not a God. Hilarious!
We do not "believe", we know for a fact there is life in the universe. we are just looking for more.

still not one teensy shred of evidence for any god, gods, or goddesses ever existing or existing now. not even a shred to suggest they may possibly have ever existed.

clear on these facts now?

RiversideRedneck

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#101830 Oct 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i just did prove that the god of the abrahamic cult does not exist. the bible itself disproves the 'god' it attempts to create. as the clear, verifiable facts i have pointed out to you time and time again, and which you have never, ever been able to counter in the least clearly show.
OMG dude. You've never showed evidence, all you've done is state it.

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#101831 Oct 20, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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What evidence to you have from the bible that God does not exist besides the hearsay of man? Oh that's right. That is all you have.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim that the undetectable Creator of the Universe is real and has a specific devotion to the tribes of Israel and the devotees of a bronze age martyr is extraordinary. The claims of no speaking serpents, no 4-10 kya genetic bottlenecks, no global flood, no 6 day creation, no talking animals, no staves into snakes and back again, or inland sea waters parting by verbal command are quite, quite ordinary.

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#101832 Oct 20, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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We'll let you know when it does. I know you're desperately in need of an upgrade.
An indirect applications of faith.

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