Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Oct 20, 2013
 
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Fact is the mountains were not pushed up that high until after the flood.
Oceans were not that deep until after the flood.
Evidence?

Oh, that's right. You have none.

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Fact is the mountains were not pushed up that high until after the flood.
Oceans were not that deep until after the flood.
The whole Earth was covered with the Flood waters, and the world that then existed was destroyed by the very waters out of which the Earth had originally emerged at God's command (Genesis 1:9; 2 Peter 3:5-6). But where did those waters go after the Flood?
There are a number of Scripture passages that identify the Flood waters with the present-day seas (Amos 9:6 and Job 38:8-11 note “waves”). If the waters are still here, why are the highest mountains not still covered with water, as they were in Noah's day? Psalm 104 suggests an answer. After the waters covered the mountains (verse 6), God rebuked them and they fled (verse 7); the mountains rose, the valleys sank down (verse 8) and God set a boundary so that they will never again cover the Earth (verse 9)[1]. They are the same waters!
Isaiah gives this same statement that the waters of Noah would never again cover the Earth (Isaiah 54:9). Clearly, what the Bible is telling us is that God acted to alter the Earth's topography. New continental landmasses bearing new mountain chains of folded rock strata were uplifted from below the globe-encircling waters that had eroded and leveled the pre-Flood topography, while large deep ocean basin were formed to receive and accommodate the Flood waters that then drained off the emerging continents.
That is why the oceans are so deep, and why there are folded mountain ranges. Indeed, if the entire Earth's surface were leveled by smoothing out the topography of not only the land surface but also the rock surface on the ocean floor, the waters of the ocean would cover the Earth's surface to a depth of 1.7 miles (2.7 kilometers). We need to remember that nearly 70 percent of the Earth's surface is still covered by water. Quite clearly, then, the waters of Noah's Flood are in today's ocean basins.
Mt. Everest, was formed about 60 million years ago, are you saying the flood happened then? Because Noah wasn't even a thought of a squirt in his daddy's mind for another 59,995,000 years later.
So quit wearing that dunce hat, um doofus.

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Oct 20, 2013
 
MikeF wrote:
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Evidence?
Oh, that's right. You have none.
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Fact is, the >indisputable evidence< is that fundamentalists are imbeciles. If Da Flud was a catastrophe, what would the simultaneous and overnight upheaval of every mountain chain on Earth be, a geological quirkiness?

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Evidence?
Oh, that's right. You have none.
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The Bible is evidence, could you be confusing evidence with proof again?

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Mt. Everest, was formed about 60 million years ago, are you saying the flood happened then? Because Noah wasn't even a thought of a squirt in his daddy's mind for another 59,995,000 years later.
So quit wearing that dunce hat, um doofus.
But how high was it then?

you don't look to far down the road do you? Beep Beep!

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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The Bible is evidence, could you be confusing evidence with proof again?
The Bible is the only reference that says the Bible is accurate, unless you count feelings - and there is no sane reason to count your feelings and confusions as either evidence or "proof" of its veracity.

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But how high was it then?
you don't look to far down the road do you? Beep Beep!
It was even higher because it is eroding.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:

Why? Omnipotence is having very great OR unlimited power.
God is omnipotent, He has very great power. But there are several things even God can't do, like lying or making a spherical square.
So you might as well stop it with your assertions of "God can't do anything so he's not real" bullshit.
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I missed your answer (or your Sunday school teacher's...whatever.). Can God make a rock so large even He cannot lift it?
You missed the answer?

You didn't too very well back in school, did ya?

Or are you still in school?

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Nope, it means "all powerful". Just being powerful is not good enough.
Just as your god is not all knowing. Or else he is monstrously evil.
Nope. Omnipotence has multiple meanings.

But just stay ignorant, it's the only way you can cling to your beliefs.

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Oct 20, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
It was even higher because it is eroding.
It's getting taller by almost two and a half inches per year.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
By the way Redneck, being a Christian has very little to do with accepting the theory of evolution.
Worldwide it looks like most Christians believe the theory of evolution. The U.S. is one of the few countries that has a serious problem with the theory, aside from countries where Islam is very strong.
In other words, not all Christians are ignorant fools.
Well that's because it's just a theory, full of holes and guesswork.

You can't 'accept' ToE, you have to 'believe' it.

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It's getting taller by almost two and a half inches per year.
That's almost 900 feet since Imaginary Flood.

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Omnipotent - all-powerful: possessing complete, unlimited, or universal power and authority.
http://www.bing.com/search...
Omnipotent;
Having unlimited or universal power, authority, or force; all-powerful. See Usage Note at infinite.
1. One having unlimited power or authority: the bureaucratic omnipotents.
2. Omnipotent God. Used with the.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/omnipotent
1 often capitalized : almighty

2 : having virtually unlimited or influence <an omnipotent ruler>

3 obsolete : arrant

http://i.word.com/idictionary/omnipotent

The Bible defines God as Almighty...

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no, i never made that claim. i stated as fact that the sun was not formed after the Earth was formed and populated with plants...as your cult's myth states.
You're lying.

You wrote:
"the Earth was not formed and filled with plants before the sun was made and the sun and moon were not made after the Earth..."

"...the sun and moon were not made after the Earth..."

Even according to science, that is incorrect.

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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The Bible is evidence, could you be confusing evidence with proof again?
The Bible is not "evidence".

It's a story.

Much of it myth, allegory, and parable. Much of the rest of it is just inaccurate from a science and history perspective.

If the mountain ranges had only formed within the past 4500 years as you contend, the heat generated by those incredibly massive forces would render the surface of the planet molten and sterile to this day.

In short, your contention of the recent forming of the world's mountain ranges is false.

Moreover, we would appreciate it if you would please present a bible verse that says the mountain ranges didn't form until after your (non-existent) Flood.

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So basically your saying that you study the bible not to learn the truth, but you study to use it to attack Christians?
...interesting
ok then, I'm out of here.
That's the MO of the Topix atheist.

They half-ass read Bible quotes they see on atheists websites, then misquote the hell out if them and claim their own victory and genius.

It's actually fun to watch.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
In fact Jesus himself said that all of the laws of the Old Testament were still to apply. Do you want me to quote the verse?
Yes, please.

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Yet it does say AFTER the plants.
So? It also says there was light. Plants can grow without sunlight, you know...

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MikeF wrote:

It's called "evidence". You know, the stuff your god left for us to figure out.
Oh.

What "evidence" are you referring to?

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Why? Omnipotence is having very great OR unlimited power.
God is omnipotent, He has very great power. But there are several things even God can't do, like lying or making a spherical square.
So you might as well stop it with your assertions of "God can't do anything so he's not real" bullshit.
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You missed the answer?
You didn't too very well back in school, did ya?
Or are you still in school?
Omni (of all)+ potent (having great power)
It does not translate as having great power over >some< things unless you omit the prefix. You show a propensity for omitting relevant aspects of discussion.

To be honest, I did not even bother to look if you had answered the paradox of God's Rock. I worked it out when I was around 10, which was probably before your time. I was hoping you would unequivocally state an answer or at least a proposition on it ... Sorry, I should have known you wouldn't.
I temporarily forgot the online Xtian mantra, "Divert, deceive, deflect, ignore."

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