Evolution vs. Creation

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“Ditat Deus”

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#101610 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the Earth was not formed and filled with plants before the sun was made and the sun and moon were not made after the Earth...
if you have even the tiniest shred of evidence to counter these proven facts, please show them now.
your cult lied to you...again...
Are you gonna try to teach me that plants can't grow without sunlight?

The fact is, you don't know how the earth was formed, no one does. It's all speculation.

Your cult lied to you, telling you it's a 'fact'.

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#101611 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>not at ll. i gave clear, proven, verifiable facts.
why is it you cannot even attempt to counter them?
why is every cult member that comes on here does the same thing you are doing and then leaves defeated by the lack of facts?
This is your version of facts....

"how could your cult's infallible god get his own creation story wrong? we know the way it is described by your cult's god isn't eh way it happened..."

You will not explain yourself. You only post your opinion.

Why is that?

Probably because you can't prove yourself right.

Hell, you can't even prove you have hands...

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#101612 Oct 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Even science says/believes the moon was formed/made after earth. lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#Formation
http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html
but not the same time as the sun, as the cult bible says...right? right.

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#101613 Oct 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Actually a creationist should not even acknowledge the find. It is a 1.8 million year old skull and it doesn't fit into their time line of a young earth. So it should be viewed as another blow to their story.
Unless they are old Earth creationists or ID followers.

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#101614 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:

the sun and moon were not made after the Earth...
replaytime wrote:
Even science says/believes the moon was formed/made after earth. lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#Formation
http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html
LMAO!

Good call.

Ole woody likes to make up 'facts' as he goes and pats himself on the back for his effort.

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#101615 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but not the same time as the sun, as the cult bible says...right? right.
you said "the sun and moon were not made after the Earth...
if you have even the tiniest shred of evidence to counter these proven facts, please show them now."

So I showed you about the moon. You should pick your words more wisely before you rant them out as facts.

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#101616 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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This is your version of facts....
"how could your cult's infallible god get his own creation story wrong? we know the way it is described by your cult's god isn't eh way it happened..."
You will not explain yourself. You only post your opinion.
Why is that?
Probably because you can't prove yourself right.
Hell, you can't even prove you have hands...
it seems we are through here...

i have given you facts. you cannot counter them.

your cult lied to you...again...

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#101617 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but not the same time as the sun, as the cult bible says...right? right.
I don't know what bible you're talking about, but the Christian Bible doesn't say they were made "at the same time", as you've implied.

Genesis 1

"God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness."

It clearly says He made them. It does not say at the sane time.

Again it seems your cult has lied to you.

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#101618 Oct 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
<quoted text>
you said "the sun and moon were not made after the Earth...
if you have even the tiniest shred of evidence to counter these proven facts, please show them now."
So I showed you about the moon. You should pick your words more wisely before you rant them out as facts.
yes, i mispoke, they were not created at the same time after the earth, as the cult bible states. i clearly acknowledged the mistake and corrected it. the cult members still have no counter to that fact...

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#101619 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it seems we are through here...
i have given you facts. you cannot counter them.
your cult lied to you...again...
Oh.

You're a troll.

I'm sorry, I'm new to this thread and didn't know.

PS. You've given ZERO facts, you've only given your opinion.

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#101620 Oct 19, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>Unless they are old Earth creationists or ID followers.
The Dude already covered that. But thanks for your input.

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#101621 Oct 19, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Not really. It is more of pointing out BS. One cannot say they don't care what creationists think if they constantly respond to them with criticism.
One can, not care what someone else thinks. I don't care what you think. I address you because I care what I think. I address you because you stand firm on ignorance, pretending greater knowledge or wisdom. Unlike science, you can't change when presented with evidence that you are wrong.

By your own logic you must care about what I think far more than even I do.

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#101622 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
This is your version of facts....
"how could your cult's infallible god get his own creation story wrong? we know the way it is described by your cult's god isn't eh way it happened..."
You will not explain yourself. You only post your opinion.
Why is that?
Probably because you can't prove yourself right.
Hell, you can't even prove you have hands...
yes, we know for a fact the Earth was not formed and populated with plant life before the sun was formed.

what about the Noachian flood? what about your infallible god changing his multiple personality mind? why is it you cult members cannot counter all these facts?

your cult lied to you...again....

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#101623 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh.
You're a troll.
I'm sorry, I'm new to this thread and didn't know.
PS. You've given ZERO facts, you've only given your opinion.
so you have one single piece of evidence that suggests the Earth was formed and populated with plants before the sun was formed or that the sun and moon were formed at the same time?

why haven't you given them?

i have given many facts and you have not countered one of them.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101624 Oct 19, 2013
proven false myths...no counter yet from any single human...movie time for me. i'm sure the facts to counter this will not arise during the next few hours, but i'll check back just to make sure...

good luck cult members and their supporters...(replay...)

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#101625 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You understand that this is only your opinion, yes?
I find it a strange opinion, but I ain't gonna judge ya.
What do you mean my only option?

And look at the lying dishonest creatard. He still won't say which version of God he believes in. That means he probably believes in the one that has already been proven not to exist.

Don't you remember, you asked for the evidence that a god did not exist. I gave it to you. If you want to go into more details I would be happy to help you out.

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#101626 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
yes, we know for a fact the Earth was not formed and populated with plant life before the sun was formed.
See? You present that as if it's a fact when you should know that it's speculation.

Genesis 1 is not meant to focus on astronomy. It was meant to emphasize GOD's role in creation everything and that He had a purpose in it.

So if one looks for detailed chronologies, you will get frustrated.

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#101627 Oct 19, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so you have one single piece of evidence that suggests the Earth was formed and populated with plants before the sun was formed or that the sun and moon were formed at the same time?
why haven't you given them?
i have given many facts and you have not countered one of them.
Hold on there, pardner. You claimed the sun was created before the earth.

Will you back that up with facts or continue to troll or admit that is speculation.

It's one of the three.

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#101628 Oct 19, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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What do you mean my only option?
And look at the lying dishonest creatard. He still won't say which version of God he believes in. That means he probably believes in the one that has already been proven not to exist.
Don't you remember, you asked for the evidence that a god did not exist. I gave it to you. If you want to go into more details I would be happy to help you out.
You did not give me evidence, you gave your opinion.

And you don't even remember.

From the horse's mouth, as it were:

OPINION 1.
If you believe in an omnipotent god, yes then it is obvious that cannot be.

OPINION 2.
As I said grade school kids have debunked the idea.

OPINION 3.
Can God make a stone so big that he can't move it? Either way he is not omnipotent.

OPINION 4.
Your God is a failure on several levels.

OPINION 5.
But you were not honest.

OPINION 6.
Few creatards are, that is one mark of their idiocy.

OPINION 7.
The failed limited God of the Bible is just as likely as Zeus or Odin.

OPINION 8.
If you are honest you will admit that the only reason that you are a Christian is because you were born to Christian parents.

If you call these opinions of yours "evidence against God", you're nuts.

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#101629 Oct 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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See? You present that as if it's a fact when you should know that it's speculation.
Genesis 1 is not meant to focus on astronomy. It was meant to emphasize GOD's role in creation everything and that He had a purpose in it.
So if one looks for detailed chronologies, you will get frustrated.
movie delayed...why would an infallible god get the chronolgy wrong?

why would he divinely inspire his human writers to get it wrong?

why can you not counter these facts?our cult lied to you...again...

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